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pauldavidmena
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Factcheck.org has an entire page of links to articles refuting conspiracy theories and clarifying misinformation, including the health sensor microgel twisted by right-wing agitators into a "microchip" included in each dose of an mRNA vaccine and used by government entities as a tracking
device. It explains that this gel is not in current use anywhere - and definitely not as part of the COVID-19 vaccination process.
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Bahía Asunción was shut down the other day. Surf contest cancelled, 3 people allowed in the markets for shopping at one time, public beach closed,
no public gatherings, etc. About 46 cases reported in Punta Abreojos.
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
Soy ignorante, apático y ambivalente. No lo sé y no me importa, ni modo.
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JZ
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Let's hope this continues.
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Good news from the sewers of Boston!
Actually it's the from a pair of water treatment plants that are part of the Massachusetts Water Resource Authority (MWRA). This graph shows a recent
drop in the Omicron variant as detected in waste water. Fingers and eyes crossed!
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Now that's really digging up the sh..!
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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Its an amazing way to measure levels of a virus in a broad population, and seems to be more accurate that random sampling using individual tests.
Starting to be used up here as well, and showing the same thing with local Scientists now stating the real infection rate of Omicron is up to 5 times
what those showing stronger symptoms and testing positive has indicated. My wife and I (and several of our friends) for instance have recently had
mild temperature, cough, head cold symptoms but did not get tested as they were relatively mild like a seasonal flu. We all took precautions to self
isolate for 2 weeks after they showed up just in case.
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JDCanuck
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Bill Gates gets on board with growing number of Scientists :
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/12/bill-gatescovid-can-be-treat...
And this recently from European Scientists:
https://www.barrons.com/articles/repeat-covid-vaccine-booste...
[Edited on 1-13-2022 by JDCanuck]
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As BA.2 subvariant of Omicron rises, lab studies point to signs of severity
By Brenda Goodman, CNN
Updated 9:28 PM ET, Thu February 17, 2022
(CNN) The BA.2 virus -- a subvariant of the Omicron coronavirus variant -- isn't just spreading faster than its distant cousin, it may also cause more
severe disease and appears capable of thwarting some of the key weapons we have against Covid-19, new research suggests.
New lab experiments from Japan show that BA.2 may have features that make it as capable of causing serious illness as older variants of Covid-19,
including Delta.
And like Omicron, it appears to largely escape the immunity created by vaccines. A booster shot restores protection, making illness after infection
about 74% less likely.
BA.2 is also resistant to some treatments, including sotrovimab, the monoclonal antibody that's currently being used against Omicron.
The findings were posted Wednesday as a preprint study on the bioRxiv server, before peer review. Normally, before a study is published in medical
journal, it is scrutinized by independent experts. Preprints allow research to be shared more quickly, but they are posted before that additional
layer of review.
"It might be, from a human's perspective, a worse virus than BA.1 and might be able to transmit better and cause worse disease," says Dr. Daniel
Rhoads, section head of microbiology at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. Rhoads reviewed the study but was not involved in the research.
BA.2 is highly mutated compared with the original Covid-causing virus that emerged in Wuhan, China. It also has dozens of gene changes that are
different from the original Omicron strain, making it as distinct from the most recent pandemic virus as the Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta variants
were from each other.
Kei Sato, a researcher at the University of Tokyo who conducted the study, argues that these findings prove that BA.2 should not be considered a type
of Omicron and that it needs to be more closely monitored.
"As you may know, BA.2 is called 'stealth Omicron,' " Sato told CNN. That's because it doesn't show up on PCR tests as an S-gene target failure, the
way Omicron does. Labs therefore have to take an extra step and sequence the virus to find this variant.
"Establishing a method to detect BA.2 specifically would be the first thing" many countries need to do, he says.
"It looks like we might be looking at a new Greek letter here," agreed Deborah Fuller, a virologist at the University of Washington School of
Medicine, who reviewed the study but was not part of the research.
Mixed real-world data on subvariant's severity
BA.2 is about 30% to 50% more contagious than Omicron. It has been detected in 74 countries and 47 US states.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that about 4% of Americans with Covid-19 now have infections caused by BA.2, but many
other parts of the world have more experience with this variant. It has become dominant in at least 10 other countries: Bangladesh, Brunei, China,
Denmark, Guam, India, Montenegro, Nepal, Pakistan and the Philippines, according to World Health Organization's weekly epidemiological report.
But, there's mixed evidence on the severity of BA.2 in the real world. Hospitalizations continue to decline in countries where BA.2 has gained a
foothold, like South Africa and the UK. But in Denmark, where BA.2 has become the leading cause of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are rising,
according to WHO.
Resistant to monoclonal antibody treatments
The new study found that BA.2 can copy itself in cells more quickly than BA.1, the original version of Omicron. It's also more adept at causing cells
to stick together. This allows the virus to create larger clumps of cells, called syncytia, than BA.1. That's concerning because these clumps then
become factories for churning out more copies of the virus. Delta was also good at creating syncytia, which is thought to be one reason it was so
destructive to the lungs.
When the researchers infected hamsters with BA.2 and BA.1, the animals infected with BA.2 got sicker and had worse lung function. In tissues samples,
the lungs of BA.2-infected hamsters had more damage than those infected by BA.1.
Similar to the original Omicron, BA.2 was capable of breaking through antibodies in the blood of people who'd been vaccinated against Covid-19. It was
also resistant to the antibodies of people who'd been infected with Covid-19 early in the pandemic, including Alpha and Delta. And BA.2 was almost
completely resistant to some monoclonal antibody treatments.
But there was a bright spot: Antibodies in the blood of people who'd recently had Omicron also seemed to have some protection against BA.2, especially
if they'd also been vaccinated.
And that raises an important point, Fuller says. Even though BA.2 seems more contagious and pathogenic than Omicron, it may not wind up causing a more
devastating wave of Covid-19 infections.
"One of the caveats that we have to think about as we get new variants that might seem more dangerous is the fact that there's two sides to the
story," Fuller says.
The virus matters, she says, but as its would-be hosts, so do we.
"Our immune system is evolving as well. And so that's pushing back on things," she said.
Right now, she says, we're in a race against the virus, and the key question is, who's in the lead?
"What we will ultimately want is to have the host be ahead of the virus. In other words, our immunity, be a step ahead of the next variant that comes
out, and I don't know that we're quite there yet," she said.
For that reason, Fuller says, she feels like it's not quite time for communities to lift mask mandates.
"Before this thing came out, we were about 10 feet away from the finish line," she said. "Taking off the masks now is not a good idea. It's just going
to extend it. Let's get to the finish line."
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Pfizer tells us there is a new vaccine that will be effective to combat Omicron(first version) as soon as next month...so no worries, Pfizer to the
rescue yet again. We can begin a whole new round of mandates based on the new versions.
In the meantime, perhaps we should explore the full range of treatments provided by the Europeans leading them to drop mandates altogether, as they
seem to be working well there.
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Doug,
Exactly what does a long rant from CNN have to do with COVID in Baja or even in the US for that matter? The Mexican Government seems to think we’re
on the backside for now as well!
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  | Pfizer tells us there is a new vaccine that will be effective to combat Omicron(first version) as soon as next month...so no worries, Pfizer to the
rescue yet again. We can begin a whole new round of mandates based on the new versions.
In the meantime, perhaps we should explore the full range of treatments provided by the Europeans leading them to drop mandates altogether, as they
seem to be working well there. |
Because the later doesn't let govt. control every aspect of your life.
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It is evident from this site that current cases in Baja are dropping rapidly, especially in the La Paz area where they are less than one third what
they were a short time ago and recovery times are extremely rapid. Went from Orange to Yellow very recently. Does not look like the new Pfizer and
Moderna "vaccines" will arrive before this most recent wave resolves itself without them:
https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/english/
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I am quite sure there is yet another crisis the governments can find out there to bring up once this one passes. Non-violent public protests must be
made illegal first, new legislations enacted to control private bank accounts and access to them, threats to remove children from custody if you
protest, we are just seeing the beginning of government control.
The real crisis we will need to deal with is the increases in homelessness caused by lock downs and mandates and the following explosion of opioid
deaths that followed it. Somehow we failed to recognize the devastation these measures created, despite being warned constantly by those in positions
to see it happening.
[Edited on 2-18-2022 by JDCanuck]
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They also said if the peaceful protesters had pets with them that officers would take them to the pound and they might be put down.
Just unbelievable.
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There is nothing an intolerant government fears more than a non-violent protest and they must attempt to make it appear as a violent uprising through
the media they control to offset it. Remember the 1930 Ghandi led protests in India and the East Germany Liepzig marches that grew out of peaceful
assemblies in a church that led to the collapse of a government. Peaceful demonstations work, but it takes a committed group of people willing to risk
everything to accomplish them.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | They also said if the peaceful protesters had pets with them that officers would take them to the pound and they might be put down.
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people were ordered to disperse.
they violated order, knowing full well that arrest was possible consequence.
what dummy takes their dog with them to get arrested?
popo are not in business of holding your hand and coddling your pets. dont take your pets with you when you foresee being arrested 
Woke!
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Interesting signature you have MTGoat: Who and when was that quote derived from?
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“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
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What doesn’t kill you
Will mutate and try again
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
In the meantime, perhaps we should explore the full range of treatments provided by the Europeans leading them to drop mandates altogether, as they
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Oh, really?
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/in-warning-to-us-covid-rates-soar-...
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | They also said if the peaceful protesters had pets with them that officers would take them to the pound and they might be put down.
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You believe everything you read. Life is a conspiracy to you, isn't it?
How many animals ended up in the pound? Go ahead, make up a number. Troll.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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