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Don Pisto
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Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | The admins, DK et al, here delete CDC official statements, peer reviewed studies with over 1000 citations and allow abusive posts, threatening posts.
fraudulent posts, which calls into question why? Why would the policy of this site be to promote misinformation, harassment, lies, and censor official
CDC statements and studies? Both David Keir and others are admins? What is the intent of this site? False info, propaganda, intimidation? What is
happening now in the moderation is abuse of the truth to promote lies? Why is Baja Nomad promoting damaging lies, misinformation, insults, aggression,
and lies and censoring peer reviewed studies and public government statements? Its disconcerting, and discouraging for a honest, truthful community.
[Edited on 3-27-2022 by gnukid] |
Take a breath. It's all going to be fine. |
I agree......but he's not all wrong is he?
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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JDCanuck
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Best advice I've seen on this subject! We are moving into a much better place. Time to leave the accusations and animosity behind and try to face the
future with common compassion and tolerance that existed in the past.
I'll start: I sincerely apologize to anyone I have offended by my opinions and look forward to sitting down and sharing some good times and maybe a
bit of beer in the future. I'll even buy...(up to a limit of course)
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mtgoat666
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Paul, you also have a right to be stupid, but that does not mean it is wise to exercise that right everyday.
Woke!
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AKgringo
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Not Baja, but.....
In Nevada County, for the first time in two years, the local hospital reported that there were 0 patients hospitalized with covid symptoms!
There were 19 known patients receiving outpatient treatment, and probably many others that never went for treatment or testing, but I consider this a
positive sign!
Nevada county has a huge senior citizen population.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | In Nevada County, for the first time in two years, the local hospital reported that there were 0 patients hospitalized with covid symptoms!
There were 19 known patients receiving outpatient treatment, and probably many others that never went for treatment or testing, but I consider this a
positive sign!
Nevada county has a huge senior citizen population. |
That is great to hear.
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | The admins, DK et al, here delete CDC official statements, peer reviewed studies with over 1000 citations and allow abusive posts, threatening posts.
fraudulent posts, which calls into question why? Why would the policy of this site be to promote misinformation, harassment, lies, and censor official
CDC statements and studies? Both David Keir and others are admins? What is the intent of this site? False info, propaganda, intimidation? What is
happening now in the moderation is abuse of the truth to promote lies? Why is Baja Nomad promoting damaging lies, misinformation, insults, aggression,
and lies and censoring peer reviewed studies and public government statements? Its disconcerting, and discouraging for a honest, truthful community.
[Edited on 3-27-2022 by gnukid] |
Take a breath. It's all going to be fine. |
I agree......but he's not all wrong is he? |
On his various points he's one of the following:
- Entirely incorrect (i.e. "wrong"). Or...
- Considerably misleading in what he's stating.
Perhaps he should stop posting links from high-bias sites lacking credibility amongst the links to more credible sites (such as CDC, etc)? Maybe he
should be making inquiries with the admin directly (there's only one lol) with his concerns instead of posting gripes in a thread? Just more game
playing going on. Sheesh.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
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gnukid
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Simply, data changes, science requires you update your mindset, to the changing conclusions, public statements, and peer reviewed studies are not high
bias, they simply don't meet last weeks world view.
For example, BN Admin deleted CDC Walensky statements that a coding error caused children's covid case/deaths to be over counted by 24%. While this is
actually good news to celebrate, apparently accepting errors goes against BN world view.
CDC Says It Accidentally Inflated Children’s COVID Death Numbers In ‘Coding Logic Error’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-says-it-acciden...
Demographic Trends of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the US reported to CDC
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics
“An adjustment was made to COVID Data Tracker’s mortality data on March 14 involving the removal of 72,277 — including 416 pediatric deaths —
deaths previously reported across 26 states because CDC’s algorithm was accidentally counting deaths that were not COVID-19-related,” Jasmine
Reed, a spokesperson for the CDC, told the Washington Examiner. “Working with near real-time data in an emergency is critical to guide
decision-making, but may also mean we often have incomplete information when data are first reported.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/reported-pediatric-c...
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gnukid
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Recently, trends in cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been identified following Covid Vaccine especially in young boys.
Adverse events among children ages 5–11 years after COVID-19 vaccination: updates from v-safe and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-...
Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-r...
New information for parents on myocarditis and COVID-19 vaccines
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-information-for-pare...
Epidemiology of Acute Myocarditis/Pericarditis in Hong Kong Adolescents Following Comirnaty Vaccination
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34849657/
Doctors Are Puzzled by Heart Inflammation in the Young and Vaccinated
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/07/vaccinati...
[Edited on 3-28-2022 by gnukid]
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gnukid
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Adverse effects following Pfizer vaccine from Pfizer documents
CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarke...
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gnukid
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The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/health/covid-cdc-data.htm...
The agency has withheld critical data on boosters, hospitalizations and, until recently, wastewater analyses.
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BajaNomad
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None of what you posted following that comment was "recent". More misleading statements.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | BN Admin deleted CDC Walensky statements that a coding error caused children's covid case/deaths to be over counted by 24%.
...apparently accepting errors goes against BN world view. |
Just continuing false and misleading statements.
Reference:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=94717&pag...
[Edited on 3-28-2022 by BajaNomad]
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
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We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
I'll start: I sincerely apologize to anyone I have offended by my opinions and look forward to sitting down and sharing some good times and maybe a
bit of beer in the future. I'll even buy...(up to a limit of course) |
Well heck, if you're in, I'm in. Sincerest apologies for seemingly coming unglued in some of my posts. It's entirely possible, like the Canuck,
to move beyond politics, and get down to sharing and getting crazy. Up to a point of course.
JZ, DK, Paul, Tom, Bob, Harald, PaulDavid, Westy, Zac, I'm buying too. Drinks on us. Smoking lamp is lit, as well.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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JZ
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I'd hang out with you Lee.
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I can't figure gnukid out. Can someone explain him to me. The man is an enigma. This is gnukid in a nutshell.
- Everything in the world is a lie. The truth is hidden and the smart ones figure it out. Almost by definition, if most people believe something then
it's suspicious and you need to find the real truth. -
How does one live like that?
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | I can't figure gnukid out. Can someone explain him to me. The man is an enigma. This is gnukid in a nutshell.
- Everything in the world is a lie. The truth is hidden and the smart ones figure it out. Almost by definition, if most people believe something then
it's suspicious and you need to find the real truth. -
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It's actually not that far off from what the MSM is doing. Thankfully, more and more ppl have caught on.
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JDCanuck
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Now that we have all made our choices on the vaccine or not issue, perhaps it's safe to share this example of who we have been trashing as
"anti-vaxxers" and our failed responsibility to them as we force them to ignore their experiences and do what we want them to. This is only one of the
severe reactions we have chosen to ignore.
Rare, but still significant to the lives of those that have suffered from them.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/b-c-man-who-had-rar...
In light of these growing number of cases, I find it entirely understandable more people are choosing not to continue to receive the 3rd and 4th shots
of "vaccines" that are showing a declining benefit as we progress through this pandemic.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Now that we have all made our choices on the vaccine or not issue, perhaps it's safe to share this example of who we have been trashing as
"anti-vaxxers" and our failed responsibility to them as we force them to ignore their experiences and do what we want them to. This is only one of the
severe reactions we have chosen to ignore.
Rare, but still significant to the lives of those that have suffered from them.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/b-c-man-who-had-rar...
In light of these growing number of cases, I find it entirely understandable more people are choosing not to continue to receive the 3rd and 4th shots
of "vaccines" that are showing a declining benefit as we progress through this pandemic. |
That article explains the science. Facts of the case and statistics from wider population indicate it was a coincidence, not a reaction.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Now that we have all made our choices on the vaccine or not issue, perhaps it's safe to share this example of who we have been trashing as
"anti-vaxxers" and our failed responsibility to them as we force them to ignore their experiences and do what we want them to. This is only one of the
severe reactions we have chosen to ignore.
Rare, but still significant to the lives of those that have suffered from them.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/b-c-man-who-had-rar...
In light of these growing number of cases, I find it entirely understandable more people are choosing not to continue to receive the 3rd and 4th shots
of "vaccines" that are showing a declining benefit as we progress through this pandemic. |
About 23K people under 40 died in the US over 2 years. About 6K under 30 died - in two years. Of those, almost all of them had other significant
health issues.
There was no reason to force mandates on young and healthy people.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-...
[Edited on 3-31-2022 by JZ]
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JDCanuck
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As the science has shifted throughout this pandemic, so too do we have to adjust our reactions. What was the best solution with the first variants may
not be with the present milder ones. Especially applicable to younger age groups where risks to the vaccine are higher and benefits lower. I am
looking forward to when every person's personal choices in consultation with their doctor(s) again trumps what the politicians decide is in their best
interest. Seems to me in most areas of the world that's where we are headed as more and more doctors look at the latest scientific data.
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