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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  |
Oh really, what it's called, what is the product name, where is it in use?
How many pairs are sequenced? The entire virus or a fragment? |
Oldkid and Barry are confused. There is a test, by genetic sequencing. There are not commercial lab tests.
For individuals being treated, it does not matter what variant you have — likely this reason and cost/effort are why there are not commercial lab
tests.
Oldkid: I bet you can find some internet wisdom about genetic sequencing and how it is unreliable hocus pocus,… you seem to be a master of finding
(and believing) misinformation for most any topic!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Annals of Pharmacology and Pharmaceutics
Research Article
Published: 18 Jun, 2021
Inhibition of the Binding of Variants of SARS-CoV-2
Coronavirus Spike Protein to a Human Receptor by
Chlorine Dioxide
http://www.remedypublications.com/open-access/inhibition-of-...
Conclusion
"CD solution, whether in water or as a formulated spray solution in water, was found to potently inhibit the binding of spike protein RBD to human
receptor protein ACE2 in a concentration-dependent manner. These findings suggest CD may be invaluable for inhibiting the infection of SARS-CoV-2
virus to human."
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | Annals of Pharmacology and Pharmaceutics
Research Article
Published: 18 Jun, 2021
Inhibition of the Binding of Variants of SARS-CoV-2
Coronavirus Spike Protein to a Human Receptor by
Chlorine Dioxide
http://www.remedypublications.com/open-access/inhibition-of-...
Conclusion
"CD solution, whether in water or as a formulated spray solution in water, was found to potently inhibit the binding of spike protein RBD to human
receptor protein ACE2 in a concentration-dependent manner. These findings suggest CD may be invaluable for inhibiting the infection of SARS-CoV-2
virus to human." |
Oldkid,
Are you back to promoting chlorine dioxide and bleach as a cure for covid? That is so last year!
You need to focus on current quackery, not obsolete quackery…
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Barry A.
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Hmmmm, Goat, perhaps you should be more open to other possible solutions-------- Dr.George Domb's (Google it) 30 year experience of preventing virus
infections in the respiratory system by using a nasal introduction of Povidone Iodine and Saline Solution has (we believe) prevented my wife's and I
having ANY problems with "nose, throat, and lung" issues associated with our experience with Covid -19 infections.. At our age (83 and 77), that is
remarkable!
What ever works!! is our motto.
We ARE "Long haulers", but have no problems with respiratory functions, only weird other symptoms like loss of "taste and smell", fatigue, and
excessive sleep and joint pain.
We are all looking for solutions, but nobody seems to know what is exactly right , so we are open to things that make sense to us.
Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco |
And another tick falls off Uncle Sams dog! Lifetime parasite criticizing someone in private sector who pays the taxes which allow John to sit and
“discuss” his knowledge. Priceless….
But those on the government teet are quick to point out they too pay taxes from their “earnings”… But are too ignorant to realize what their
status is. If everyone is a tick, the dog dies. That is the fact. Private sector has funded the tax money to come up with the vaccine. That is the
best part of the holier than thou lefties. They never understand that they are nice to have around but not essential to the overall operation.
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Reading these ridiculous attacks on educators says something about the posters' own level of education and world view.
Astounding that people really think that way 
Do away with all government and tell folks "You are on your own here...." ????
Are you rightwingers suggesting teachers should not be paid ( ie. no government funded education in your country) ?
So, you as a parent will pay from your own pocket if you want someone to teach your kids anything? Or home schooling is your trip? Or education just
isn't important?
Tax dollars fund your military.... are the armed forces all a bunch of leeches as well sucking that teet?
I don't get it
Don't believe everything you think....
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I think Megan McCain is correct that there are other groupings besides republicans that have low vaccinations rates. But even she doesn’t claim
they are the same as Democrats.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/meghan-mccain-slams-factually-...
Let’s take a state like Mississippi where it isn’t too much of an exaggeration to say whites are republicans and blacks are democrats.
Mississippi is ranked 47 in vaccinations.
57% of vaccines to whites
38% to blacks
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/12130.pdf
Want to guess the demographics by race in Mississippi
59% white
38% black
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/MS
Alabama dead last.
38% of blacks vaccinated and same for whites
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=d8484...
Wyoming where there are almost no minorities and mostly republican second to last in vaccinations
I can’t find any source that claims that republicans are getting vaccinated at the same rate as democrats. Or as you state “the difference is
only marginal”
The Kaiser survey puts it at 30% difference.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid...
[Edited on 9-11-2021 by Purdyd]
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Barry A.
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I admit that I am totally astounded at the last 4 posts as to what in the world are they talking about?
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | Does natural immunity from corona type infection and recuperation provide superior protection than than jab for variants? |
Are there raised eyebrows or rolling eyes if Paul regurgitates what he's read, repeats it here, and nobody reads it?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
And the jabs produced from the models in 2019 are good for all future corona variants, so people just need constant boosters and they're good forever?
[Edited on 9-10-2021 by gnukid] |
How about all those things you're firmly convinced will keep you safe from contracting Covid? If I exercise, eat healthy, take herbal immune boosters
and do yoga all this week, I guess I can slack off that regimen forever going forward, and still be protected?
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | Annals of Pharmacology and Pharmaceutics
Research Article
Published: 18 Jun, 2021
Inhibition of the Binding of Variants of SARS-CoV-2
Coronavirus Spike Protein to a Human Receptor by
Chlorine Dioxide
http://www.remedypublications.com/open-access/inhibition-of-...
Conclusion
"CD solution, whether in water or as a formulated spray solution in water, was found to potently inhibit the binding of spike protein RBD to human
receptor protein ACE2 in a concentration-dependent manner. These findings suggest CD may be invaluable for inhibiting the infection of SARS-CoV-2
virus to human." |
Note: This is the first mention on Baja Nomad of this study on Chlorine Dioxide to reduce SARS-CoV-2 virus to human infection.
Interesting that some people here attempt to discourage sharing of prevention and treatment of SARS-CoV-2.
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1,110 people died every day of covid, in USA last week.
Covid vaccine mostly prevents hospitalization/death, but people won’t get the vaccine.
Sounds pretty smart to mandate vaccine!
But many got their panties in a bunch over vaccine mandate.
Seat belts were mandated to prevent death, the mandate worked.
So many common sense things had to be mandated because citizens were too stupid to do the right things voluntarily. Mandates work to correct
stupidity.
GOP need to put on their big boy pants, stop whining, accept the mandate and get the jab.
Woke!
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Note: This is the first mention on Baja Nomad of this study on Chlorine Dioxide to reduce SARS-CoV-2 virus to human infection.
Interesting that some people here attempt to discourage sharing of prevention and treatment of SARS-CoV-2. |
I think what you are missing here is the chlorine dioxide is proposed as a disinfectant.
Not something to be used on a human being as a treatment.
| Quote: | | To control the spread of COVID-19, it is essential to develop and deploy safe but effective disinfectants against the virus alongside novel antiviral
drugs and vaccines [8]. While ethanol is known to be effective against the virus [9], it cannot eradicate the virus present in the air. Chlorine
Dioxide (ClO2) (CD) is a water-soluble yellow gas at room temperature and is a stable free radical [10]. CD can be used as a gas or an aqueous
solution to inactivate both viruses and bacteria [11-15]. |
Of note is that chlorine dioxide in the air in gaseous form could be used to disinfect a room. Which is of course a very welcome solution to combat
covid 2 virus.
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“Alabama man dies of cardiac event after 43 hospitals with full ICUs turned him away”
Since antivaxxers are cause of full icus, can antivaxxers be held responsible for deaths caused by full icus?
Oldkid, do you feel responsible?
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1,110 people died every day of covid, in USA last week.
That is equivalent of 3 jumbo-jets per day, or one 9/11 per day.
And the GOP fights all efforts to stop the pandemic.
Shame!
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Is there anybody reading this message that is refusing to be vaccinated?
Just curious who you are.
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That's a good question. I asked because there are many posts about unvaccinated folks and am wondering if there are any here. I guess who they are is
secondary to if there are any.
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Neither I (83) nor my wife (77) are vaccinated against Covid, but we are vaccinated against many other things. We both had confirmed Covid some 10 +
months ago for 15 days at home, and I may have had the Delta-variant quite recently. We both consistently (so far) test positive for natural
"anti-bodies", and I have had some minor but annoying problems with "long-hauler" symptoms for the last 10 months. We like "natural anti-bodies"
more than "artificial anti-bodies" so have avoided the "jab", so far. We continue to research the subject, and isolate ourselves.
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Interesting. Sounds like the two of you got infected before the vaccines were available and now have natural immunity. IMO your smart to "lay low"
anyway until the pandemic ends.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Interesting. Sounds like the two of you got infected before the vaccines were available and now have natural immunity. IMO your smart to "lay low"
anyway until the pandemic ends. |
Correct, we did have Covid-19 before vaccines were available. Thank you for your comments, and you are right in our thinking process. My wife is a
retired Grade School CA Teacher, and I am a retired EMT and Federal Ranger, and we both are College Grads. We get tested for "anti-bodies" every 3
months, all positive so far. The rest of our extended Family are totally vaccinated, we believe, with no problems reported.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | “Alabama man dies of cardiac event after 43 hospitals with full ICUs turned him away”
Since antivaxxers are cause of full icus, can antivaxxers be held responsible for deaths caused by full icus?
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Hypothetically, it wouldn't be illogical or immoral to put some burden on them. In insurance business there is a rule - you must try to mitigate
losses or your claim may be denied. This group are not trying to mitigate, not using available vaccines and many of them (not all) are likely to
ignore other protection measures. There is also something in Criminal Code about infecting others with STD when you knew that you were sick, as I
recall.
Many unvaccinated are simply hesitating, confused and overwhelmed with the cr-ap they hear around, unable to separate facts from myths. Some have
recovered from Covid already, they typically have a better immunity than after the vaccine, though vaccine could still boost their antibodies. This
latter group is usually excluded from vaccination requirement where there is such a requirement.
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