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NFL and NBA are done with Covid.
NFL this week said it will no longer test asymptomatic players and the head of the NBA says we need to plow on with life.
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | NFL and NBA are done with Covid.
NFL this week said it will no longer test asymptomatic players and the head of the NBA says we need to plow on with life.
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Sounds like someone more focused on $$ than health and safety of employees and customers.
Rich guys (owners, players) can afford to test, take basic public health precautions.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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FDA approves pill to treat Covid. Sounds like it could be widely available within a month. Merck has one coming also.
https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cnbc.com/amp...
[Edited on 12-22-2021 by JZ]
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Now, if only they could invent a pill that will cure stupidity, then we would not need a pill to cure covid!
Will the people that are rejecting vaccines and mask willingly take a pill? I bet oldkid wont!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Hi John: I couldn't access that article without registering with the paper. Which one of the three is more effective and in short supply, and which 2
are shown not to be effective? Would be good to have that info in advance in case it becomes necessary. I don't think many of us are going to avoid
exposure to Omicron or a future variant.
Here are the most recent claims of the post exposure pill (not a monoclonal antibody) just approved by FDC:
Last week, Pfizer announced that Paxlovid reduces the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% if administered within three days of symptoms. Data also
suggests that the pill will be effective against the new omicron variant. If given within five days, the pill still reduced the risk of severe
reaction by 88%, up from an 85% efficacy rate reported in an interim analysis in November.
[Edited on 12-22-2021 by JDCanuck]
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Hi Purdyd: Yes , thanks for that study from Sept data site. 3rd dose showed only a 3.24% increase in systemic reactions overall from dose 2. Much
lower than the increases in systemic reactions between doses 1 and 2 previously separated out in descriptive tables. Almost impossible to get data on
serious systemic reactions anyplace and all I find out there are extreme bias opinions.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | NFL and NBA are done with Covid.
NFL this week said it will no longer test asymptomatic players and the head of the NBA says we need to plow on with life.
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I can’t see how that is good for the players and I don’t understand why they would test anyone if they only test symptomatic players.
Might as well just let it go.
There is no doubt that the nfl is all about the money.
I notice the governor of Colorado has pretty much called it quits on mandates but is not banning them at local levels as I understand it.
And he has a good message.
| Quote: | | He added: "People who have gotten those three doses in our Colorado data, which is similar to the national data, are 47 times less likely to die than
people that are unvaccinated. It essentially negates the risk. Nothing is risk-free in life, Chuck, but if you're boosted you can feel very confident
that if you get COVID it'll be a minor case." |
| Quote: | Instead, the source said Polis pivoted to “individual responsibility” because he is a “very progressive libertarian,” adding the governor
sees the latest surge as an occasion to “ask people to do the right for themselves and get vaccinated.”
“He sincerely sees a meaningful role for an appropriately limited government,” the source said. |
Surely the best way to insure your freedom is to not abuse it. Doing the right thing for you, your family, and your country is not giving up your
freedom.
Great news coming out on anti viral pills for treatment as already mentioned.
Also, it appears that South Africa may have already peaked. Suggesting perhaps it takes about a month to peak and decline with the new variant. Hope
uk & USA follow that trend.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/africa/south-africa-omicron-p...
And new data out of the uk is suggesting the new variant has less risk of hospitalization.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/risk-of-hospit...
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
Hi John: I couldn't access that article without registering with the paper. Which one of the three is more effective and in short supply, and which 2
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The effective one (at this time!) is by GSK, sotrovimab. Eli Lilly and Regeneron "thumbs down" at this time.
Of course, this virus has been unpredictable. So, who knows. Maybe JZ and gnukid have all the answers. Eat more fruit? Breathe more? Troll
endlessly?
John
[Edited on 12-23-2021 by John Harper]
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Thank you, purdyd, with regard to the information on third shot reactions.
Does the data then mean that if you had a strong reaction to your second shot, you are likely to have a similar reaction to your third shot?
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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WHO Director on use of third shots
https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1473679943045468161
[Edited on 12-23-2021 by gnukid]
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A simple question to all Nomads who care about others here, and all over the world:
Why is a retired? librarian allowed to continue his campaign, and it is a relentless campaign, against vaccinations on a daily basis on our beloved
Baja site?
Just asking.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surfhat | A simple question to all Nomads who care about others here, and all over the world:
Why is a retired? librarian allowed to continue his campaign, and it is a relentless campaign, against vaccinations on a daily basis on our beloved
Baja site?
Just asking. |
It's not "vaccinations" generically, it's some of the Covid-19 vaccinations that are basically new and unproven and potentially incredibly dangerous!
[Edited on 12-23-2021 by Barry A.]
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He has a right. We can chose if we read it.
He no doubt has good intentions and there may be kernels of wisdom in there somewhere. It is too bad he is not more concise, however.
There are many others here that take one side so strongly they do not hear anything else. They are entitled to their approach as well.
If we start censoring, then truth just depends on who gets to be the censor...
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
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According to CDC, if you had a strong allergic reaction to shot 2 , you should not have a third shot, but switch to another type of vaccine for the
third, like Janssen or Astrazenica, which are entirely different types.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/al...
"If You Had a Severe Allergic Reaction to a COVID-19 Vaccine
Anyone who has had a severe allergic reaction (for example, anaphylaxis) after receiving a particular type of COVID-19 vaccine should not get another
dose of that type of vaccine. The vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna are considered one type (mRNA) of COVID-19 vaccine. The COVID-19
vaccine made by Johnson & Johnson/Janssen is considered another type (viral vector).
Learn about getting a different type of COVID-19 vaccine after an allergic reaction.
A severe allergic reaction can cause a rapid heartbeat, difficulty breathing, swelling of the throat, or a generalized rash or hives. A person with a
severe allergic reaction needs to be treated with epinephrine (often given as an EpiPen®) and should seek immediate medical attention.
Learn about common side effects of COVID-19 vaccines and when to call a doctor."
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| Quote: Originally posted by 100X |
There are many others here that take one side so strongly they do not hear anything else. They are entitled to their approach as well.
If we start censoring, then truth just depends on who gets to be the censor... |
You've been here 7 weeks and you're lecturing?
No one has a right to post false and inaccurate information. I stopped reading the garbage Paul posts here. It's conspiratorial with no merit.
Possibly obsessive compulsive. Common troll.
BTW. Doug is the censor here. His truth is OK.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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I'd much rather have too much information presented even if a lot of it is wrong than far too little. We are all adults and able to sieve through what
information is provided and discard what we cannot accept.
Paul is the one that first pointed out several post exposure treatments through links he posted that I found very helpful. Can't disagree with the
underlying messages to take other steps to increase our natural immunity either.
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When we were given our first mRNA vaccines we were told we had attained 85% of full protection and when we had the second we were told we would have
94% protection ongoing and would now be finally allowed to visit family in other areas or friends in seniors homes. This has since proven to be overly
ambitious. I think we should keep looking for even better protection for ourselves and our families, whether it is continuation on the repetitive
booster path combined with post exposure treatment or some other novel approach to build immunity.
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I told my 3 kids today. Don't get the booster. They are all vaxxed. Two of them have had Covid already as well.
Wife and I got the booster. No way I want them to keep pumping shots into their bodies when they have a super, super, super low risk of getting
serious illness. And now we know being vaxxed has marginal impact on stopping the spread of Covid.
There is less than zero chance I would let my 5 to 11 yo get the vaccine, even going back 6 months.
Never define yourself or choices by a single variable. We are pro-vax. But also pro-choice.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by 100X |
There are many others here that take one side so strongly they do not hear anything else. They are entitled to their approach as well.
If we start censoring, then truth just depends on who gets to be the censor... |
"You've been here 7 weeks and you're lecturing?"
I've been here (BN) a lot longer than 7 weeks, but only posting for 7 weeks.
My comments were in direct response to a specific question posed to all Nomads by another Nomad.
If my "lecturing" has struck a nerve, then perhaps my comments have some relevance to the way you interact with others.
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Jz: It's a tuff decision, do we add additional risk to our youngest to protect the most at risk elderly as they say we should be, or protect our
children at the risk of the elderly? Maybe it's not that simple a choice and we can do both?
I place myself in the at-risk elderly side and would never expect my children to add risk to my grand children and great-grandchildren to give me a
couple more years of declining health. Not my choice to make tho, that properly lies with the parents of the youngest.
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