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My wife was a community health nurse who visited sick and more elderly patients at their homes. She would not consider returning to work under the
conditions forced upon her recently. What used to be 1-20 to 30 min visit each week, has become 1 -10 min visit each 2-3 weeks, wearing face shield,
glasses(often fogged due to cold weather and masks) and sometimes goggles as well.
When she misses that additional blemish that showed up on the patient that resulted in inflammation, amputation and eventually death, who is
investigated for the ultimate outcome?
Lets be honest, these are the conditions that are driving nurses out
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| Quote: | No, WHO’s Director-General Didn’t Say COVID Vaccines Are ‘Being Used To Kill Children’
A brief clip of a comment made by World Health Organization Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus misrepresented what he said.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/who-kill-children-covid-19...
| Quote: | Ghebreyesus stated, “It’s better to focus on those [vulnerable] groups who have the risk of severe disease and death, rather than, as we see,
some countries are using to give boosters to children, which is not right.” He stumbled over the word “children,” accidentally pronouncing the
first syllable with a “k” sound before immediately correcting himself.
A WHO spokesperson told the BBC, “He repeated the same syllable, with it coming out ‘cil-children.’ Any other interpretation of this is 100%
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JDCanuck
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For the last 2 decades since the first SARS crisis we have allowed our politicians to reduce the number of actual nurses, hospital beds, and
especially ICU's per capita until this latest epidemic surge was able to overwhelm what remained very easily. This despite the reports at that time
that we would need at least 20 percent more ICU's if we ever saw a repeat.
I take huge offence when these same politicians now blame the unvaccinated young children for the crisis that has been created by their mismanagement.
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I am one of the Johnson & Johnson shot receivers (last March). Not one issue with it.
Kaiser sent members an advisory email last week:
J&J vaccine – latest developments
After reviewing growing safety and efficacy data, the CDC has recommended mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) over J&J/Janssen. However,
the J&J/Janssen vaccine is still a good option for those unable to receive the mRNA COVID vaccines and definitely preferred over no vaccine at
all.
Members who received the J&J/Janssen vaccine are encouraged to receive a booster shot of an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer or Moderna) after two months to
ensure maximum protection from COVID-19 and its variants.
I got the Moderna booster yesterday... 
If I suddenly stop posting, you will know why! LOL 
Merry Christmas!
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | I told my 3 kids today. Don't get the booster. They are all vaxxed. Two of them have had Covid already as well.
Wife and I got the booster. No way I want them to keep pumping shots into their bodies when they have a super, super, super low risk of getting
serious illness. And now we know being vaxxed has marginal impact on stopping the spread of Covid.
There is less than zero chance I would let my 5 to 11 yo get the vaccine, even going back 6 months.
Never define yourself or choices by a single variable. We are pro-vax. But also pro-choice.
[Edited on 12-23-2021 by JZ] |
Shorty mcdumbstuff:
You are free to make bad decisions for your children, and you are free to offer bad advice to your children. You go, girl!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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This morning's NY Times had a number of helpful articles. Apologies if some are behind their pay wall.
Why Masks Work
What Omicron Symptoms Are
A Guide to Rapid-Test Accuracy
A Guide to Holiday Travel
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Data dont lie!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/23/us/omicron-ca...
Omicron Drives U.S. Virus Cases Past Delta’s Peak
The Omicron variant, which is now dominant in the United States and spreading faster than any variant yet, has already pushed daily coronavirus case
counts higher than the peak of the recent Delta wave. By most estimates, the country is in for a significant winter surge.
Although there are early positive signs out of South Africa and Britain that Omicron infections more often result in mild illness than previous
variants, officials are warning that the new variant could swiftly overtax the health care system and bring significant disease to many communities.
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Omicron is spreading fast.
The highly transmissible variant is causing near-vertical case growth in multiple U.S. cities, with figures doubling about every two to three days.
Officials expect it to break records. The all-time high for average daily cases was 251,232, set in January. By some estimates, the United States
could reach one million cases a day, even before the end of the year.
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Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Omicron is going to help end the pandemic. Instead of panicking everyone, they should be talking up the fact that it causes less severe illness.
Biden got up and told the press that no one saw it coming. The head of the CDC says the next day that they were tracking it for two months.
The white house orders hundreds of millions of at home tests - to arrive after the holidays instead of before ppl travel to meet relatives.
These ppl couldn't fumble and bumble through this anymore if they tried.
[Edited on 12-23-2021 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Omicron is going to help end the pandemic.
Instead of panicking everyone, they should be talking up that it causes less severe illness.
Biden got up and told the press that no one saw it coming. The head if the CDC says the next day that they were tracking it for two months.
The white house orders hundred of millions of at home tests - to arrive after the holidays.
These ppl couldn't fumble and bumble through this anymore if they tried.
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It will be over by Easter...probably only a few cases...sunshine should help
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Data dont lie!
By some estimates, the United States could reach one million cases a day, even before the end of the year.
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Interesting estimate and by doubling every 3 days where would that one million be by end of January? Thats the problem with predictions.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Omicron is going to help end the pandemic. Instead of panicking everyone, they should be talking up the fact that it causes less severe illness.
Biden got up and told the press that no one saw it coming. The head of the CDC says the next day that they were tracking it for two months.
The white house orders hundreds of millions of at home tests - to arrive after the holidays instead of before ppl travel to meet relatives.
These ppl couldn't fumble and bumble through this anymore if they tried.
[Edited on 12-23-2021 by JZ] |
If getting omicron is the answer to getting out of the pandemic why are you so concerned with testing?
I think it would be hard for the cdc to track it for two months since it was only discovered a month ago.
And wasn’t announced as a variant of concern until November 30th.
| Quote: | | On November 24, 2021, South Africa reported the identification of a new SARS-CoV-2 variant, B.1.1.529, to the World Health Organization (WHO).
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| Quote: | | On November 30, 2021, the SIG made the decision to classify the Omicron variant as a Variant of Concern (VOC). |
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...
So about three weeks ago.
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Ppl want to get tested before visiting elderly relatives for the holidays. Or ppl need to show a negative test before going back to work after
traveling, etc.. Why is this so hard to understand?
The lines in NY are 2+ hour waits. All across the US the shelves lack the inexpensive at home tests. Our local CVS included, where I heard 6 ppl ask
for them while standing in line.
The manufacturer of the tests (Abbott) says they slowed down production in August because they couldn't get a straight answer from the govt.
In Dec of 2020 Biden said it was totally unacceptable for the US to be so lacking in Covid tests. He had a year to solve the problem and failed
miserably. He now says "no one" saw the variant coming, when Fauci and the CDC lady totally contradict him. The ex-head of the CDC predicted in
August on national TV that a much more transmissible variant would likely emerge in the next 2-4 months.
The American ppl are being treated very badly.
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As demand for testing explodes and more and more cases are becoming identified, the case fatality rates are plummeting. Actual Infection Fatality Rate
and identified Case Fatality Rates differential is narrowing, giving us a far better idea of the danger of being exposed to this latest (apparently
weaker) variant.
This puts the risk/reward ratio for vaccinating infants in a new light and also repetitive boosters. Our health region continues to limit the amount
of people being tested and self testing is not readily available, so our case fatality rate remains well above the actual infection fatality rate. CFR
presently is still well under 1% despite this.
It also appears as if the number of people with naturally acquired antibodies protecting them from the Omicron strain globally is considerably higher
than previously thought.
[Edited on 12-24-2021 by JDCanuck]
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I am posting this chart again so we can track which countries are doing best (or worst) in managing this virus. I have added Netherlands, Canada and
Mexico to the base chart. Netherlands and Sweden show the best improvements, while Mexico shows very little improvement. While in Mexico, additional
caution is definitely required as their CFR remains extremely high. If you are travelling there it would be wise to take your own treatment supplies
with you. (Oxygen and any other post exposure treatments you trust) In addition, if you can't pick up a rapid test, the PCR tests are very cheap at
most airports with fairly quick results. La Paz airport cost was about 75 dollars USD and results came back in less than 48 hours.
https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
The lines in NY are 2+ hour waits. All across the US the shelves lack the inexpensive at home tests. Our local CVS included, where I heard 6 ppl ask
for them while standing in line.
[Edited on 12-24-2021 by JZ] |
There's a shortage of tests because those who refuse to get vaccinated are required to get regularly tested in order to go to their workplace. You
love to put the blame where it doesn't belong.
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Recent mass purchases by governments have caused online suppliers to pull online sales of rapid tests. I'm surprised if there are any left anyplace in
pharmacies, Walmart or others. They just can't keep manufacturing these fast enough at present. Here is the recent info on the free tests availability
after the 500 million priority order placed by US gov't:
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-get-free-rapid-covid-...
Here in Canada, where we have higher levels of vaccinated people, 90 percent of positive tests were Omicron and over ten percent of the tests were
coming back positive, in vaccinated and non vaccinated people combined.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Ppl want to get tested before visiting elderly relatives for the holidays. Or ppl need to show a negative test before going back to work after
traveling, etc.. Why is this so hard to understand?
The lines in NY are 2+ hour waits. All across the US the shelves lack the inexpensive at home tests. Our local CVS included, where I heard 6 ppl ask
for them while standing in line.
The manufacturer of the tests (Abbott) says they slowed down production in August because they couldn't get a straight answer from the govt.
In Dec of 2020 Biden said it was totally unacceptable for the US to be so lacking in Covid tests. He had a year to solve the problem and failed
miserably. He now says "no one" saw the variant coming, when Fauci and the CDC lady totally contradict him. The ex-head of the CDC predicted in
August on national TV that a much more transmissible variant would likely emerge in the next 2-4 months.
The American ppl are being treated very badly.
[Edited on 12-24-2021 by JZ] |
The testing issue stretches all the way back to the previous administration and has continued as the empasis was and is, vaccines.
| Quote: | | But the roots of this shortage actually stretch back to the beginning of the pandemic, when the White House prioritized developing vaccines over
tests. The Trump administration invested heavily in developing new vaccines through Operation Warp Speed, and the Biden administration’s pandemic
strategy has largely focused on distributing those vaccines throughout the country. |
https://www.vox.com/recode/2021/12/21/22848286/omicron-rapid-test-covid-19-antigen
Scientists are always saying that something bad is coming. I think it would be a stretch to say anyone was predicting omicron’s rate of spread 4
months ago.
I have no idea what your are talking about with regards to Dr. Fauci or Dr. Walensky contradicting President Biden.
If I am confused I am wondering if as you stated Omicron is the solution why testing matters.
Didn’t you just post a link about how the NFL was reducing testing?
I presumed you thought that was a good idea?
And of course the real reason there is such an explosion in demand for tests is there is an explosion in the number of cases.
Everything is backed up including labs. Not the first time we’ve seen this. Not unique to this administration.
And I fear you are as guilty as those you accuse of listening to only main steam media or msm, and rooting for the Covid virus.
Not everything the Biden administration does is evil just as the same could be said for the Trump administration.
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"I have no idea what you're talking about with regards to Dr. Fauci or Dr. Walensky contradicting President Biden."
Then you have not been listening closely. Biden said, "nobody knew this was coming" and Fauci and Wallensky both said, "we've known for months that
this, or something like it, was coming". I watched all 3 individuals actually say these things on News broadcasts. It's not a biggie, but we should
try and get things right. (-:
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Barry: I'm interested. How have you prepared for the surge of breakthroughs that is coming upon us? If predictions are accurate hospital care will be
hard to come by and we have to prepare for the alternative of home treatment. Especially as there are fewer and fewer available hospital staff at the
same time.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | Barry: I'm interested. How have you prepared for the surge of breakthroughs that is coming upon us? If predictions are accurate hospital care will be
hard to come by and we have to prepare for the alternative of home treatment. Especially as there are fewer and fewer available hospital staff at the
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Omicron, while more contagious, isn't as severe.
Cases will go way up. But hospitalizations won't.
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