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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | If I do come across the occasional person who is not wearing a mask indoors, I assume they have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing
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The US is a lot different. And varies greatly by state and even from county to county.
FL has been mask optional for 1.5yrs.
San Diego and Ventura Counties in CA were mask optional most of last Fall. They are again now. We went to a big trade show in SD last week and only
a 3rd were wearing masks.
LA County has been the worst. But finally ppl are saying screw in and not bothering to wear one regardless what it says on the door.
Went to a Rams game in Oct. They said outside the stadium 50 times to wear a mask. Inside hardly anyone did. Same for the Rose Bowl in January.
It's just pitiful what they have done making kids wear masks for 8 hrs a day. When the science clearly says that is the wrong thing to do.
The at risk should be wear masks. And not any mask, anN85 mask. Cloth masks are absolutely worthless and surgical masks are only a bit better.
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We do use the surgical masks despite their limitations, but if it makes other people feel safer we will comply despite our personal risks in doing so.
Glasses, masks and cold weather produces its own set of risks, especially driving, where I refuse to wear one if I'm driving. I noticed in La Paz
pretty much everyone wore them constantly even when driving alone in cars and after they had gone to green level. I was told it was a law requirement.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
We do use the surgical masks despite their limitations, but if it makes other people feel safer we will comply despite our personal risks in doing so.
Glasses, masks and cold weather produces its own set of risks, especially driving, where I refuse to wear one if I'm driving. I noticed in La Paz
pretty much everyone wore them constantly even when driving alone in cars and after they had gone to green level. I was told it was a law requirement.
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I use Uber a lot out here. Used it all through the pandemic.
Definitely wore a mask until we had vaccines. Now just ask if the driver if they care if we wear a mask. 90% say it's fine not to wear one. Of that
90%, 70-80% take theirs off. 20-30% wear one.
I don't understand how ppl have gonna their identities tied to having a mask. They will keep wearing them well after the govt. tells them they don't
have to.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
I use Uber a lot out here. Used it all through the pandemic.
Definitely wore a mask until we had vaccines. Now just ask if the driver if they care if we wear a mask. 90% say it's fine not to wear one. Of that
90%, 70-80% take theirs off. 20-30% wear one.
I don't understand how ppl have gonna their identities tied to having a mask. They will keep wearing them well after the govt. tells them they don't
have to.
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What does it matter whether the driver cares or not?
Who has their "identities tied to a mask"? That's some conservative nonsense based on nothing.
And I thought you don' t like the govt. telling you what to do. So if someone chooses to keep themselves and others safe by continuing to wear a mask
in public places because in their judgement it is still a good idea, why would you find that something to demean? And what business is it of yours?
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
I noticed in La Paz pretty much everyone wore them constantly even when driving alone in cars and after they had gone to green level.
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You have no idea why someone is driving alone with a mask on, so there is no basis on which to judge them for it. For all you know, they just had
someone in their vehicle who is unvaxed and refuses to wear a mask, or may be about to pick someone up. Or the driver may have mild symptoms and not
want to expose the person they just dropped off or are about to pick up. Perhaps they share the vehicle with others and have all agreed to wear a mask
whole driving so as to keep the vehicle free of possible contamination.
I put on my mask when approaching a stop light where a bunch of maskless people trying to sell ypu something or wash your windshield run up to your
open window.
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[Edited on 2-26-2022 by surabi]
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Hogwash. "Cloth mask" is a catch-all term that can mean anything from a thin cotton bandana to a triple layer mask made of tightly woven fabrics.
Proper cloth masks have been proven on many studies to provide good protection from the virus. Not 100%, but far from "worthless".
And Florida's no mask policies have resulted in the 3rd highest number of infections of any US state. Their death rate is nothing to brag about,
either.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
I use Uber a lot out here. Used it all through the pandemic.
Definitely wore a mask until we had vaccines. Now just ask if the driver if they care if we wear a mask. 90% say it's fine not to wear one. Of that
90%, 70-80% take theirs off. 20-30% wear one.
I don't understand how ppl have gonna their identities tied to having a mask. They will keep wearing them well after the govt. tells them they don't
have to.
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What does it matter whether the driver cares or not?
Who has their "identities tied to a mask"? That's some conservative nonsense based on nothing.
And I thought you don' t like the govt. telling you what to do. So if someone chooses to keep themselves and others safe by continuing to wear a mask
in public places because in their judgement it is still a good idea, why would you find that something to demean? And what business is it of yours?
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If the driver wants us to wear a mask, we do. That's why it matters what the driver's preference is.
Come on little lady, you know I don't care at all if ppl wear masks, as long as they don't overly force it on others. Getting in someone's car and
being asked to wear a mask is very reasonable.
I'm just saying some people have made it part of their identity. It's fine, but weird.
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I'm just saying some people have made it part of their identity. It's fine, but weird.
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Which people? You can say something endlessly, but that doesn't mean it has a shred of truth.
And addressing women as "little lady" is misogynistic.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
I'm just saying some people have made it part of their identity. It's fine, but weird.
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Which people? You can say something endlessly, but that doesn't mean it has a shred of truth.
And addressing women as "little lady" is misogynistic. |
My apologies. It won't it again.
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I'm just saying some people have made it part of their identity. It's fine, but weird.
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What is weird is you people getting your panties in a bunch over masks, convinced you have lost your civil liberties, etc.
Wearing a mask in public spaces is so simple and easy, I just don’t see what your objection is. It’s no more difficult than obeying rules to wear
clothes in public, keep your shoes on, don’t walk into a restaurant without a shirt, etc.
If the mask helps even a little bit in maintaining public health, then just wear the flocking mask without complaining! It is such a minor thing!
You anti-mask zealots are the biggest bunch of snowflake crybabies I have ever seen!
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
I'm just saying some people have made it part of their identity. It's fine, but weird.
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What is weird is you people getting your panties in a bunch over masks, convinced you have lost your civil liberties, etc.
Wearing a mask in public spaces is so simple and easy, I just don’t see what your objection is. It’s no more difficult than obeying rules to wear
clothes in public, keep your shoes on, don’t walk into a restaurant without a shirt, etc.
If the mask helps even a little bit in maintaining public health, then just wear the flocking mask without complaining! It is such a minor thing!
You anti-mask zealots are the biggest bunch of snowflake crybabies I have ever seen!
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Sorry bud, human beings weren't meant to cover their faces. Facial expressions are a very important aspect of our existence.
If you want to wear a mask in a car all alone 500 miles from the population, go for it.
Not the world I want my kids to grow up in.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Sorry bud, human beings weren't meant to cover their faces. Facial expressions are a very important aspect of our existence. |
Japanese are human and have been wearing masks for hundreds of years. Facial expressions are important, you're right about that. If we lived in
Japan, I doubt anyone would be complaining about masks. Complainers might be viewed as dolts.
CDC never said throw out the masks. They said ppl can ease off wearing them. I think masks are here to stay. Until things settle and are
eradicated, that's how it is.
Things are different in Florida and Texas. California is the wrong state for you JZ. Think you know that.
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So I assume since we are now talking about masks, they are still mandatory in shared indoor spaces in La Paz despite going to green level? Is this
correct? What are the present rules in outdoor areas? Mandatory if not enough space between people? Beaches fully opened?
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| Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | So I assume since we are now talking about masks, they are still mandatory in shared indoor spaces in La Paz despite going to green level? Is this
correct? What are the present rules in outdoor areas? Mandatory if not enough space between people? Beaches fully opened? |
don't know about baja sur but up here we went to green on monday and masks are still required indoors
https://ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=67124&fbclid=I...
its kind of unclear just where they're referring to as "baja california" I think?
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Thanks Don Pisto: As my Spanish is essentially non-existent I attempted to read what it stated on masks, but it kinda looked to me like they were
talking about schools in that paragraph where they mentioned cubrebocas?
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Who freaking cares what the recent rules are?
Masking up has always been about showing you care about others.
Not wearing masks shows who you choose to be.
I know which side I want to be known for. It is so easy to show you care about others.
While the pandemic is currently moving to the endemic stage, being fully vaccinated and boostered, and wearing masks in public should be the least we
do for our Baja friends.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda, will be judged later when history has its say, sit always does.
The shortsighted, if they live long enough may learn something, or not. Some will not learn a thing. We have a few here that proudly espouse a
viewpoint that will not serve them well in the years ahead. They however will persist unabated. It is their right.
It is the rest ours right to call bs on them every time and I appreciate you Nomads who call them out every time. It is so deserved. The unabashed
hypocrisy continues to astound me. The cult of personality knows no bounds.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | So I assume since we are now talking about masks, they are still mandatory in shared indoor spaces in La Paz despite going to green level? Is this
correct? What are the present rules in outdoor areas? Mandatory if not enough space between people? Beaches fully opened? |
don't know about baja sur but up here we went to green on monday and masks are still required indoors
https://ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=67124&fbclid=I...
its kind of unclear just where they're referring to as "baja california" I think?
[Edited on 2-27-2022 by Don Pisto] |
Thanks Don Pisto: As my Spanish is essentially non-existent I attempted to read what it stated on masks, but it kinda looked to me like they were
talking about schools in that paragraph where they mentioned cubrebocas? |
yeah I took it down I believe this speaks of Baja "norte" and not the area you're inquiring about and it would only lead to an argument....you know
how they roll here
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| Quote: Originally posted by surfhat | Who freaking cares what the recent rules are?
Masking up has always been about showing you care about others.
Not wearing masks shows who you choose to be.
I know which side I want to be known for. It is so easy to show you care about others.
While the pandemic is currently moving to the endemic stage, being fully vaccinated and boostered, and wearing masks in public should be the least we
do for our Baja friends.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda, will be judged later when history has its say, sit always does.
The shortsighted, if they live long enough may learn something, or not. Some will not learn a thing. We have a few here that proudly espouse a
viewpoint that will not serve them well in the years ahead. They however will persist unabated. It is their right.
It is the rest ours right to call bs on them every time and I appreciate you Nomads who call them out every time. It is so deserved. The unabashed
hypocrisy continues to astound me. The cult of personality knows no bounds. |
Nothing is black and white. Everything should have a societal risk/benefit analysis applied to it.
If we didn't, we wouldn't be driving cars, which kill and severely injured many.
Wearing masks outside has very little value, unless in a very crowded space. But yet some governments mandated it. In spite of the science.
The vast majority of kids are at no risk to Covid and are very low spreaders. Yet, some governments are forcing them to wear masks for 8 hours a day
despite the numerous studies saying masks negatively impact childhood development.
In some regards, ppl at risk can be selfish by demanding others to wear masks. More so in some circumstances, than others.
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With falling rates of positive tests, far fewer hospitalized cases, and relatively high vaccination rates in Nevada County, the school board made mask
wearing in our local high school 'optional'.
The school closed down when over 40% of the teachers called in sick!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Man...that's a lot of sick teachers at one time, was this because of a huge spike in Omicron? We've never seen anything close to that here. Service
workers in restaurants never ever came close to that rate.
oh...gotcha...they booked off sick so the school had to shut down. Sorta an informal strike to get a paid vacation rather than give up wages.
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“ people at risk can be selfish by demanding others to wear masks “
That has to be one of the most narcissistic statements and on top of your misogynistic “little lady “ insult just proves that you are a sad little
keyboard troll. It’s stunning just how far some peoples heads are up there backside that they fixate on the masks as some kind of trauma for
children yet can’t let go of their gun fetishizes which cause schools to have active shooter drills. Why don’t you apply your “risk/benefit
analysis “ to your delusional U.S. beliefs that more guns equals a safer society. Hopefully we take what we’ve learned over the last 2 years and
wear masks during flu and when we are feeling sick . The Canadian women’s hockey team beat Russia 6 to 1 all while wearing masks, no toddler like
tantrums or whining from them
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Sorry bud, human beings weren't meant to cover their faces. Facial expressions are a very important aspect of our existence.
If you want to wear a mask in a car all alone 500 miles from the population, go for it.
Not the world I want my kids to grow up in.
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Human beings are biologically tribal, like all mammals. What they were "meant" to do is behave in a way that ensures the survival of the pack. If that
means wearing masks not to spread a highly contagious disease, that is what members of a group that wants to survive does. It's the capitalist, every
man for himself attitude and behavior that is the aberration and not how human beings were "meant" to behave.
Driving alone with a mask on 500 miles from civization? Where on earth do you come up with these absurd scenarios? And why? All they do is make you
look stupid.
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