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[*] posted on 7-1-2020 at 10:56 PM
Recovering from COVID


For those commenting on recent reports of lower death rates for COVID: FYI, survivors are having a tough time returning to their pre-COVID activity levels.

It's true doctors are getting better at saving people's lives when they become infected with COVID- but they are still trying to understand how to help them return to pre-COVID levels of work, health and lifestyle after leaving the hospital.

One of my friends survived COVID, but still hasn't been able to visit his partner, who is caring for family in Mexico City, for months. This is partly due to travel restrictions, but also an ongoing lack of energy, appetite, and persistent headaches.

He was one of the first COVID cases in California, diagnosed shortly after having surgery in February- and fortunately had good care. But months later he is still on medications for various lingering problems, including lack of appetite and persistent nausea.

He recently asked other COVID survivors if they had suggestions for managing these long-term symptoms, and has been referred to a new doctor with some new medications.

So be safe out there- and here's a link to an article with more details:

"Here’s What Recovery From Covid-19 Looks Like for Many Survivors

"Continuing shortness of breath, muscle weakness, flashbacks, mental fogginess and other symptoms may plague patients for a long time."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/health/coronavirus-recove...




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[*] posted on 7-4-2020 at 11:14 PM


Yes, this virus seems to have long-lasting effects for many people. Damage to organs and a whole host of other things. Just because someone gets it but doesn't get super sick, doesn't mean it's no big deal.

Of course, this could be said of other things as well, and perhaps it has to do with how healthy one is to start with and how strong their immune system is. I got over dengue in 6 days, but I have friends who got it and felt like crap for months.

There's not enough known about this virus yet to know for sure what kind of long-lasting damage it can do.

Wear a mask, wash your hands, stay away from crowds.

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[*] posted on 7-8-2020 at 04:12 PM


There was a study published few months ago, based on Wuhan cluster. I posted a link back then. People experienced long-lasting effects after survival - liver, lungs, immune system - including those who didn't have severe symptoms.
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[*] posted on 7-8-2020 at 06:58 PM


but people keep comparing to the flu....:(



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[*] posted on 7-8-2020 at 07:00 PM


I have one friend that got it in January before they knew what it was. He is from CA. The other in rosarito month ago both having a tuff time to recoup.
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[*] posted on 7-9-2020 at 01:14 AM


It was the longest lasting flu I ever had.
Milder most days than a good flu - but nasty pain some days.
Has been over for some weeks, but I can feel that beast is not dead.

But don't listen to me.
Get your own.
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[*] posted on 7-9-2020 at 12:11 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
but people keep comparing to the flu....:(

The president of Brazil called it "a little flu", kissing babies and parading without mask even after the court ordered him to. Fired two top epidemiologists and put an army general in their place. Their death toll is one of the highest in the world.

Early estimates were that coronavirus is 10 times deadlier than a seasonal flu. Recent research, including estimated infections cases (not just confirmed cases), concluded that it's 100-150 times deadlier. Long term effects are only beginning to surface but it appears that they are more serious than of seasonal flu as well.
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[*] posted on 7-9-2020 at 12:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
It was the longest lasting flu I ever had.
Milder most days than a good flu - but nasty pain some days.
Has been over for some weeks, but I can feel that beast is not dead.

Check your blood. Hemoglobin, lymphocytes, neutrophils, immunoglubulin IgA, IgG, IgM. It helps when you know your "usual" levels but wouldn't hurt to check anyway.
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[*] posted on 7-9-2020 at 04:58 PM


just the sniffles!

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9 July 2020

Coronavirus pandemic could cause wave of brain damage, scientists warn

(CNN) The novel coronavirus pandemic could lead to a wave of brain damage in infected patients, warned British researchers in a new study released Wednesday.

Experts at the University College London (UCL) were the latest to describe that Covid-19 could cause neurological complications including stroke, nerve damage, and potentially fatal brain inflammation -- even if the patients didn't show severe respiratory symptoms associated with the disease.

"We should be vigilant and look out for these complications in people who have had Covid-19," said joint senior author Dr. Michael Zandi in a UCL press release, warning that it remains to be seen "whether we will see an epidemic on a large scale of brain damage linked to the pandemic."

Follow-up studies will be necessary to understand the potential long-term neurological consequences of the pandemic, they said.
The study, published in the journal Brain, examined 43 patients treated at University College London Hospitals for either confirmed or suspected coronavirus, from April to May. They varied in age from 16 to 85, and showed a range of mild to severe symptoms.

Among these patients, researchers found 10 cases of "temporary brain dysfunction" and delirium; 12 cases of brain inflammation; eight cases of strokes; and eight cases of nerve damage.

Most of the patients who showed brain inflammation were diagnosed with a specific, rare and sometimes deadly condition known as Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM). Before the pandemic, the research team in London would see about one ADEM patient per month. During the study period, the number rose to at least one a week.

One woman hallucinated lions and monkeys in her house. Others reported numbness in their limbs or face, double vision, and disorientation. One severe patient was barely conscious, responding only when in pain.

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By Zoe Cormier
22nd June 2020

Some scientists suspect that Covid-19 causes respiratory failure and death not through damage to the lungs, but the brain – and other symptoms include headaches, strokes and seizures.

For Julie Helms, it started with a handful of patients admitted to her intensive care unit at Strasbourg University Hospital in northeast France in early March 2020. Within days, every single patient in the ICU had Covid-19 – and it was not just their breathing difficulties that alarmed her.

“They were extremely agitated, and many had neurological problems – mainly confusion and delirium,” she says. “We are used to having some patients in the ICU who are agitated and require sedation, but this was completely abnormal. It has been very scary, especially because many of the people we treated were very young – many in their 30s and 40s, even an 18-year-old.”

Helms and her colleagues published a small study in the New England Journal of Medicine documenting the neurological symptoms in their Covid-19 patients, ranging from cognitive difficulties to confusion. All are signs of “encephalopathy” (the general term for damage to the brain) – a trend that researchers in Wuhan had noticed in coronavirus patients there in February.

Now, more than 300 studies from around the world have found a prevalence of neurological abnormalities in Covid-19 patients, including mild symptoms like headaches, loss of smell (anosmia) and tingling sensations (arcoparasthesia), up to more severe outcomes such as aphasia (inability to speak), strokes and seizures. This is in addition to recent findings that the virus, which has been largely considered to be a respiratory disease, can also wreak havoc on the kidneys, liver, heart, and just about every organ system in the body.




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