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SFandH
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2000 for the Bronco Sport
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PaulW
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SFandH - good post.
Btw remember both Broncos are a year away from being made and sold. I would expect significant changes in specs will occur before then.
Then remember Ford has a pretty poor record for first year reliability.
At least they are using the bullet proof 10 speed and 2.7 twin turbo. Nobody else can deliver such a good powertrain.
The 4 cyl after several years still has issues, but I am not up to date on that motor.
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SFandH
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I'm skeptical of turbos. More expensive maintenance?
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mtgoat666
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Then get a ‘74 bronco with carburetor.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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El Jefe
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I will wait for the electric version.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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I will probably hold off until the bugs are worked out with the flux capacitor!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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AKgringo, You could pick up a spare from O'Reilly Auto Parts, just in case of a breakdown:
https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-500.html
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David K
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Need to get to 88 miles per hour!
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Don Pisto
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these are badazz cars...Ford hit a homer!
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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Suspension down travel is severely limited. It looks like the swaybar disconnect allows for some additional down travel, but not very much. This is
detrimental over uneven terrain - especially when encountered in combination with steep enough pitch.
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TMW
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Anything is fixable if you have enough money.
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del mar
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I'll believe it all....when I hear it from Harold! 
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Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  |
Suspension down travel is severely limited. It looks like the swaybar disconnect allows for some additional down travel, but not very much. This is
detrimental over uneven terrain - especially when encountered in combination with steep enough pitch.
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And "HOSS" is what? A mispronunciation of "horse" (as in "HOSS-power") or the big Cartwright kid?
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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SFandH
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Maybe he means the GOAT terrain management system.
GOAT is an acronym for Go Over Any Terrain.
[Edited on 7-18-2020 by SFandH]
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The Broncos Achilles Heel described at length..
From Modern Jeeper (Metalcloak)
Link: https://modernjeeper.com/bronco-vs-jeep-the-battle-is-on-can...
Abstract: If you all remember, in the early days of the JL concept Jeep lovers were adamant to the late CEO of Fiat, Sergio Marchionne that the next
generation Wrangler must have a solid axle. And, of course, Jeep complied.
Ford had a blank slate to work with and they chose IFS. Their experience with the Ford Raptor proves that they know how to build a “go-fast”
desert runner and they adapted that knowledge to the new Bronco.
However, insiders who had a chance to test the new Bronco over the last several months told us that while the Bronco is a great rig for Go-Fast, it is
lacking in the rock-crawling department… why? Most likely because of the IFS.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke | From Modern Jeeper (Metalcloak)
Link: https://modernjeeper.com/bronco-vs-jeep-the-battle-is-on-can...
Abstract: If you all remember, in the early days of the JL concept Jeep lovers were adamant to the late CEO of Fiat, Sergio Marchionne that the next
generation Wrangler must have a solid axle. And, of course, Jeep complied.
Ford had a blank slate to work with and they chose IFS. Their experience with the Ford Raptor proves that they know how to build a “go-fast”
desert runner and they adapted that knowledge to the new Bronco.
However, insiders who had a chance to test the new Bronco over the last several months told us that while the Bronco is a great rig for Go-Fast, it is
lacking in the rock-crawling department… why? Most likely because of the IFS. |
Maybe 1/1000th of the bronco market wants to rock crawl, and the rock crawlers can just go buy a jeep, eh?
Or mod their bronco.
[Edited on 7-18-2020 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Ken Cooke
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The most over-hyped SUV
| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Maybe 1/1000th of the bronco market wants to rock crawl, and the rock crawlers can just go buy a jeep, eh?
Or mod their bronco.
[Edited on 7-18-2020 by mtgoat666] |
The Bronco is the most over-hyped SUV
(This article slams the new Bronco)
Link: https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-ford-bronco-is-the-most-ove...
Abstract: The new Ford Bronco is here, and while many Ford fans freaked out about the reveal, other SUV enthusiasts were pretty disappointed. After
all the hype and having to wait for the reveal after delays, the 2021 Ford Bronco isn’t living up to its promises.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke | From Modern Jeeper (Metalcloak)
Link: https://modernjeeper.com/bronco-vs-jeep-the-battle-is-on-can...
Abstract: If you all remember, in the early days of the JL concept Jeep lovers were adamant to the late CEO of Fiat, Sergio Marchionne that the next
generation Wrangler must have a solid axle. And, of course, Jeep complied.
Ford had a blank slate to work with and they chose IFS. Their experience with the Ford Raptor proves that they know how to build a “go-fast”
desert runner and they adapted that knowledge to the new Bronco.
However, insiders who had a chance to test the new Bronco over the last several months told us that while the Bronco is a great rig for Go-Fast, it is
lacking in the rock-crawling department… why? Most likely because of the IFS. |
I understand the conventional wisdom on IFS, but if its true, why are many of the new crawlers (and the winners for the last several years) built
for KOH etc have IFS? and those danged Land rovers, they have IFS as well, and they seem to do pretty well?
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del mar
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here's a detailed view of the Bronco's set up from the folks over at Jalopnik.....its pretty long and concise.
https://jalopnik.com/an-extremely-detailed-look-into-the-for...
[Edited on 7-18-2020 by del mar]
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 |
I understand the conventional wisdom on IFS, but if its true, why are many of the new crawlers (and the winners for the last several years) built
for KOH etc have IFS? and those danged Land rovers, they have IFS as well, and they seem to do pretty well? |
Here is Loren Healey's take on Ultra 4 IFS vs. Straight axle technology. The performance in the rocks is vastly improved with straight axle
suspension components.
Link: https://www.drivingline.com/articles/solid-axle-vs-ifs-in-ul...
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