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caj13
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Nomads living in Baja: 50% death rate hospitalized Covid patients
Particularly if you are one of the many faithful here poo pooing this virus and the threat, I sincerely hope you do not have a first hand encounter
with Covid.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/half-of-virus-patients-...
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Alm
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Makes sense. They go to hospital when they are in critical condition, half of patients can't be helped at this point.
In the US and Canada nursing homes are a close equivalent, residents are in near-critical condition - old, frail and with other co-morbities, the
result being much higher % of deaths in this subset.
Ignoring this virus is stupid. Younger and healthier die less often when infected, but long-term impact on health has been well documented.
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Got to be very concerned if you are older and living in Baja for sure.
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You got to be very concerned if you contact other people, period. In absence of vaccine a social distancing, masks and hand washing is the only thing
that works.
Talking to somebody standing 6 ft away from you is a contact if one of you is without a mask, because small aerosol particles from talking spread
father than 6 ft. Going to restaurant or public washroom or any indoor public space is potentially a contact with contaminated surfaces, in addition
to infected people. Indoors in humid environment coronavirus survives more than 24 hours.
Why so many people don't get it, puzzles me.
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John M
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question for Alm
"...but long-term impact on health has been well documented."
While what you say may be accurate; how can we know in just six months? - I wonder how this statement about long-term impact on health with something
so new has been determined?
John M
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main reason is that most infected are not admitted to the hospitals - they simply don't have the capacity. Almost 90% are treated at home. Only the
super sick are in hospitals. Super sick also means many will die. https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/#DOView
Overall the hospitals in Baja are close to collapsing, but they have managed very well so far. Death rate stands at 15 per 100k (US is 43/100k). The
fight isn't far from over but Baja is doing quite well. Baja is one of the safest places at the moment if you are concerned to get infected.
Sure, you can nitpick accounting methods, but it does not change the big picture.
Harald Pietschmann
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Quote: Originally posted by John M  | "...but long-term impact on health has been well documented."
While what you say may be accurate; how can we know in just six months? - I wonder how this statement about long-term impact on health with something
so new has been determined?
John M |
Don't pay him much mind.
He told us that the death rate in Canada is 8%. And that there are rocks in the rice and beans in BoLA. The guy is a loon.
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | main reason is that most infected are not admitted to the hospitals - they simply don't have the capacity. Almost 90% are treated at home. Only the
super sick are in hospitals. Super sick also means many will die. https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/#DOView
Overall the hospitals in Baja are close to collapsing, but they have managed very well so far. Death rate stands at 15 per 100k (US is 43/100k). The
fight isn't far from over but Baja is doing quite well. Baja is one of the safest places at the moment if you are concerned to get infected.
Sure, you can nitpick accounting methods, but it does not change the big picture. |
Stay safe Harald.
[Edited on 7-20-2020 by JZ]
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I had my share of C19
mild, but still nasty
I feel very confident and safe with the current measures in BCS
Harald Pietschmann
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | I had my share of C19
mild, but still nasty
I feel very confident and safe with the current measures in BCS |
I'm 75% sure I got it in April.
Was down for about 48hrs.
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I had the pleasure for 11 weeks
since everything was super mild (except the kidney part) it only hit me towards the end that the b*tch got me
Harald Pietschmann
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I wonder if this is for all hospitals. The larger cities have bare bones government run hospitals for the poor and fully equipped modern hospitals for
the privately insured and people who can pay cash. I bet the care given varies dramatically.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | I wonder if this is for all hospitals. The larger cities have bare bones government run hospitals for the poor and fully equipped modern hospitals for
the privately insured and people who can pay cash. I bet the care given varies dramatically. |
I have (unfortunately) been in all of them - no difference to speak of.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | You got to be very concerned if you contact other people, period. In absence of vaccine a social distancing, masks and hand washing is the only thing
that works.
Talking to somebody standing 6 ft away from you is a contact if one of you is without a mask, because small aerosol particles from talking spread
father than 6 ft. Going to restaurant or public washroom or any indoor public space is potentially a contact with contaminated surfaces, in addition
to infected people. Indoors in humid environment coronavirus survives more than 24 hours.
Why so many people don't get it, puzzles me. |
i believe it might be called cognitive dissonance.
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Overall the hospitals in Baja are close to collapsing, but they have managed very well so far. Death rate stands at 15 per 100k (US is 43/100k).
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Where on earth are you coming up with such wildly inaccurate numbers? The death rate in Mexico right now is 11.3%. For every 100 people who have had
the virus, 11.3 have died. Do you not understand simple math?
There are currently 276,254 people in Mexico listed as having recovered from the virus and 39,485 who have died. How you extract 15 in 100,000 from
that is bizarre.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
Where on earth are you coming up with such wildly inaccurate numbers? The death rate in Mexico right now is 11.3%. For every 100 people who have had
the virus, 11.3 have died. Do you not understand simple math?
There are currently 276,254 people in Mexico listed as having recovered from the virus and 39,485 who have died. How you extract 15 in 100,000 from
that is bizarre. |
Not saying Harald's numbers are correct. But yours are way off. You don't have the correct denominator.
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I think there is:
1. "case fatality rate" which is the number of deaths per the number of infections.
2. "fatality rate" which is the number of deaths per 100,000 people.
Whatever number you use, make sure you understand how it is determined and, most importantly, watch how it trends over time.
And, as far as how it affects your personal vulnerability, get numbers for your locality.
[Edited on 7-20-2020 by SFandH]
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CLOSED CASES
261,553
Cases which had an outcome:
222,068 (85%)
Recovered / Discharged
39,485 (15%)
Deaths
These are the current stats for Mexico from the World-o-meter site. Do you understand what 15% means? What's 15% of one dollar? 15 cents out of 100
cents. Mexico has recorded 15 deaths for every 100 people who have recovered.
This forum seems to be full of mathematical dunces.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | CLOSED CASES
261,553
Cases which had an outcome:
222,068 (85%)
Recovered / Discharged
39,485 (15%)
Deaths
These are the current stats for Mexico from the World-o-meter site. Do you understand what 15% means? What's 15% of one dollar? 15 cents out of 100
cents. Mexico has recorded 15 deaths for every 100 people who have recovered.
This forum seems to be full of mathematical dunces. |
I have an electrical engineering degree from the Ohio State University. There was lots of math involved in earning it.
You really need to step back from your keyboard to when you haven't had a couple c-cktails and think about what you are saying.
[Edited on 7-21-2020 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Not saying Harald's numbers are correct. But yours are way off. You don't have the correct denominator. |
I assume you mean the denominator is incorrect because it does not include undocumented cases?  |
Yes, of course.
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