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Alm
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They did this before, dead or ready to die. Probably not related to reduced boat traffic during the epidemic, unlike other sightings.
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Quote: Originally posted by Alm  |
Case fatality rate = deaths / confirmed cases. This is how it's officially defined.
If I "told" a month ago that it was 5%, then it was 5% due to the number of deaths and cases at the moment. Today it is what it is, check the
statistics. If this is difficult to understand, I can't help you.
The point is that this virus is not making you healthier. If you don't die you may get sick for a long time. After the SARS epidemic they were
seeing thyroid problems in lab tests of recovered patients a few years after the epidemic.
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You told us that 8% of Canadians who get it will die.
Here is exactly what you told us:
"Deaths show how deadly the virus is overall, regardless of the epidemic stage. Despite the increasing testing, deaths per infected have been higher
than initially predicted 3-4%. Mexico: 12%, Canada: 8%, USA: 5.5%. A far cry from 0.5% deaths by seasonal flu."
I've never seen someone root so hard for the virus.
[Edited on 7-28-2020 by JZ]
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Wash your hands, wear a mask where required. Avoid large crowds. Stay in good physical shape.
And then get on with your got damn life.
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Now we are getting somewhere. The only thing that remains is to try and understand what you are reading.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Wash your hands, wear a mask where required. Avoid large crowds. Stay in good physical shape.
And then get on with your got damn life.
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Be sure to say your good byes to your grandparents, you are now more likely to not see them again.
But be aware that After they hear your approach to Covid19, they may disown you...
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Be sure to say your good byes to your grandparents, you are now more likely to not see them again.
But be aware that After they hear your approach to Covid19, they may disown you... |
Talked to my grannie about two weeks ago.
She said, "Its a really snotty, awful thing, especially for us older folks, but most importantly, I don't want it to impact your kids."
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https://flattenthefear.com/
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https://www.elsudcaliforniano.com.mx/local/municipios/celebr...
Celebran vuelta al turismo naútico en Loreto
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Regarding travel in Baja, someone posted a video on FB from last Sunday that showed a long, long line of vehicles at what appeared to be the El
Chinero checkpoint, on Hwy 3 north of San Felipe. Appears they had set up a "filter". The line was at a standstill and people were out of their
vehicles. So, things have not returned to normal, and may not for some time. The filters seem to be set up only on the week ends.
The guy with the RV towing a small vehicle might have had some explaining to do..
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at the Baja Sur border at the entrance to Guerrero Negro, the health & informational checkpoint has been set up again where they inform travelers
about protocol here in baja sur and what to do if you get symptoms. They take your temperature and give you a face mask if you dont have one.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | Regarding travel in Baja, someone posted a video on FB from last Sunday that showed a long, long line of vehicles at what appeared to be the El
Chinero checkpoint, on Hwy 3 north of San Felipe. Appears they had set up a "filter". The line was at a standstill and people were out of their
vehicles. So, things have not returned to normal, and may not for some time. The filters seem to be set up only on the week ends.
The guy with the RV towing a small vehicle might have had some explaining to do.. |
I saw that too. If I read it right, it was northbound to Mexicali from San Felipe that had over an hour wait, southbound to San Felipe had no
restrictions?
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“Be sure to say your good byes to your grandparents, you are now more likely to not see them again.
But be aware that After they hear your approach to Covid19, they may disown you... “
Goat,
As a grandparent I live everyday as fully as I can. You can be struck by a bus while protesting at any age! That said the CDC report of deaths from
all causes have been well below the expected seasonally adjusted numbers ever since Cuomo and Murphy killed off all the old folks in NY and NJ a few
months ago. The documented Virus admissions to California hospitals lags by 2 weeks, but the last week listed is half of what it was a few weeks
prior! URLs upon request!
Everyone dies of something some day even if you hide under the bed! It’s what you do in the meantime that defines your life!
My 94 year old Irish Grandma had a dissecting aneurism while up on a ladder painting her ceiling! In my world she rocks! She came to NYC in the 1880s
when they still had Typhoid Epidemics! She lived through the 1890s Russian Flu, the 1918 Spanish Flu and the 1957 Asian Flu along with a few wars, the
Great Depression, earthquakes and the “Doom Clock” set at two minutes to midnight!
The Glass Half Emptiers” always said the end was near or would be soon!
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RF... what great reply!  
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If you're not a right wing conservative nut job, skip this link. This group thinks reopening schools at all cost is the solution.
They also state that mainstream media (read liberals) has turned the covid virus into hysteria.
Bet these misguided losers are anti-maskers too. Just saw a video of a red-neck type screaming the virus is a scam and his constitutional rights
meant he didn't have to wear a mask.
He had on a red maga cap. Figures.
Nice try.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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One half of the MLB Florida Marlins tested positive for C-19. 30 man rosters (dropping to 26), 32 teams (isolated), 960 players (tested daily) 15
positive on one team, in one week.
Opening schools? Even 1000 on campus per day out of a 3000+ enrollment? Let's hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
VOTE!
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | Crap, I've heard of their detecting it in cats, but fish now? That's really going to impact the tourist industry.  |
Maybe smoking it kills the virus? Oops, don't want to start any new conspiracy theories for our "foil hat" crowd.
John
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark |
... the CDC report of deaths from all causes have been well below the expected seasonally adjusted numbers...
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This only shows that people die less from other causes this summer. Deaths from Covid-19 are still there.
[Edited on 7-29-2020 by Alm]
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Interesting new video from Wendover Productions, a quality Youtube channel, about the logistics of COVID testing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgiMqePRp0Y
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“ This only shows that people die less from other causes this summer. Deaths from Covid-19 are still there.“
“All causes” Includes Virus deaths too! Consider that 50K to 60K Americans die every week. Many from chronic diseases. If something else like
gross stupidity in NY and NJ kills 30K in nursing homes over a short period than they’re not available to die in subsequent weeks.
These accelerated virus deaths reduce the available pool of the chronically ill who can die of something else. The “all causes” death rate goes
down. As far as deaths are concerned the Flu and the Virus compete with each other for Largely the same pool of victims. A lot of deaths from other
known causes are being swept up by COVID or delayed because of people staying at home.
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark |
These accelerated virus deaths reduce the available pool of the chronically ill who can die of something else. The “all causes” death rate goes
down. As far as deaths are concerned the Flu and the Virus compete with each other for Largely the same pool of victims. A lot of deaths from other
known causes are being swept up by COVID or delayed because of people staying at home. |
This picture is too simplified to be correct.
All cases rate went down in part because people are staying home, less working, less driving. Those who chose to take this new threat seriously are
less likely to contract some other diseases as well. Masks, distancing and washing hands works not just for coronavirus.
The fact that there are other diseases doesn't mean that Covid-19 should be ignored because those who die would "die of something else" anyway.
Chronically ill person contracting Covid-19 could've lived years or decades longer if it wasn't for Covid-19. Being healthy doesn't mean that you
won't die after contracting Covid-19, the risk is ~10 times lower than if you were already ill but still real.
As to the competing with flu... There was an article in National Geographic where they compared so called infection fatality rate - based on total
estimated infected cases of Covid-19 as opposed to confirmed cases, VS same estimates for seasonal flu. They concluded that Covid-19 is 50-100 times
deadlier than the flu. Some "competition"... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/07/coronavir...
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