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Quote: Originally posted by weebray  | | Some were trying to politicize the issue but truly it's turning in to an economic issue. I totally understand the squeeze many industries are in. My
son has a restaurant in LA and it's teetering. How many lives do we trade for the economy? How critical is surfing, bar hopping, opulent buffets or
sportfishing to our lives? No one is starving and the safety net in Mexico is strong. Here in Mexico the dirt pimps and devolepers are starting to
feel the pinch but have a lot of fat to protect them for the near future. Still they rattle the cage to open the gates. |
"No one is starving and the safety net is strong in Mexico"? I guess you´re speaking of a different Mexico than where I live. Please elaborate on
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by chippy |
"No one is starving and the safety net is strong in Mexico"? I guess you´re speaking of a different Mexico than where I live. Please elaborate on
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You mean they aren't getting $600/week to live on?
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| Quote: Originally posted by shari |
It's not the tourists bringing it to the towns but the locals travel all over the place visiting family and friends from tip to tip of the peninsula.
Now that many arent working, there is even more traveling to and fro.
It's not the tourist that are the problem here in the small towns.
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Tourists bring their share of infection.
But I agree that in summer Mexicans are major contributors - including Mexican visitors from the mainland, they drive often to Baja Norte. There are
weekenders tourists. Visiting relatives is a popular past time too, and they are very defensive about it. The attitude is not unlike Americans in the
border area - not whether it's legal/illegal but how to get through the checkpoints. Poor understanding of what the epidemic is about, plus the
(imaginary) right to visit "la familia" across the checkpoint or even across the border, if he/she is a double citizen.
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If you're not already infected, you are at risk when you venturing out without following adequate safety measures.
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| Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver |
10 seconds? The limit of your attention span?
I’m about as far from liberal as you can get.
In case it has escaped your attention span, the virus is already a political debate.
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I have NO attention span for comics who aren't funny, and perpetuate the virus as political fodder.
Your comment that Maher is a liberal hero is bullshlt. Anything else?
Try OT if you're looking for an argument about the virus and politics.
Correct me if I'm wrong, you're a trumpee and plan to vote for a loser and liar. Tell me you're not part of the problem in this country?
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
If you're not already infected, you are at risk when you venturing out without following adequate safety measures. |
Naw. It doesn't have an 8% death rate as you have told us all on here.
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I wish I knew what you are trying to say.
There is case fatality rate - different for different patient categories and varying between the countries, there is a risk of infection and then
there is a risk of long term complications. One must be an i.diot to think that he is sheltered from all of this.
Case fatality in Mexico is currently 11%.
[Edited on 7-27-2020 by Alm]
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Why are you arguing about stats? Dont you already know its a deadly disease and only fools dont take care?
If people are calling the disease a nothing burger, then flock them, cut them out of your life and dont shed s tear if they die
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
I wish I knew what you are trying to say.
There is case fatality rate - different for different patient categories and varying between the countries, there is a risk of infection and then
there is a risk of long term complications. One must be an i.diot to think that he is sheltered from all of this.
Case fatality in Mexico is currently 11%.
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a) You told us a month ago that 5% of Americans who get it, 8% of Canadians, and 11% of Mexicans will die. Don't try your new term of "case fatality
rate" on us now.
b) You told us not to buy rice and beans in Bahia de Los Angeles because "there are rocks in them."
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Why are you arguing about stats? Dont you already know its a deadly disease and only fools dont take care?
If people are calling the disease a nothing burger, then flock them, cut them out of your life and dont shed s tear if they die
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It's not a nothing burger. But life must go on. Shutting down won't solve the problem.
I'm hopping on a flight to Florida in about 10 days. Live life, we don't have that much time in this world.
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Case Fatality Rate - Mexico
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/mexico?countr...
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weebray
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I don't plan to argue with stupid people, it's pointless. Fact is, here o the ground peolple are helping other people survive. I'm not going to pump
my ego here but those of us with are helping those of us without. Poverty is not something that has been greatly exaserbated by covid, it's always
been here. No one is dying because commerical recreation is suspended and they can't go to the beach. Trust me, people are stepping up and helping
others. If you are in the La Paz area and are starving pm me. BTW, stories around here talk of unusual sightings of marine life not seen for many
years. I wonder if there is a link?
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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| Quote: Originally posted by weebray | | I don't plan to argue with stupid people, it's pointless. Fact is, here o the ground peolple are helping other people survive. I'm not going to pump
my ego here but those of us with are helping those of us without. Poverty is not something that has been greatly exaserbated by covid, it's always
been here. No one is dying because commerical recreation is suspended and they can't go to the beach. Trust me, people are stepping up and helping
others. If you are in the La Paz area and are starving pm me. BTW, stories around here talk of unusual sightings of marine life not seen for many
years. I wonder if there is a link? |
Yes, people are helping each other tremendously. Work exists for those seeking it. FYI Commercial Tourism is open for guided panga tours, sport
fishing, Moto tours, hotels are open in some limited capacity beach front restaurants, flights are running to SJD, transit is open etc.
Here providers of guided pang tours negotiate successfully for right to return to work with proper procedures. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=297855191272696
Here are some fish reports on FB, there have been news stories about salmon being caught in the Sea of
Cortez?https://www.facebook.com/groups/278561439852318/
[Edited on 7-27-2020 by gnukid]
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | Quote: Originally posted by weebray | | I don't plan to argue with stupid people, it's pointless. Fact is, here o the ground peolple are helping other people survive. I'm not going to pump
my ego here but those of us with are helping those of us without. Poverty is not something that has been greatly exaserbated by covid, it's always
been here. No one is dying because commerical recreation is suspended and they can't go to the beach. Trust me, people are stepping up and helping
others. If you are in the La Paz area and are starving pm me. BTW, stories around here talk of unusual sightings of marine life not seen for many
years. I wonder if there is a link? |
Yes, people are helping each other tremendously. Work exists for those seeking it. FYI Commercial Tourism is open for guided panga tours, sport
fishing, Moto tours, hotels are open in some limited capacity beach front restaurants, flights are running to SJD, transit is open etc.
Here providers of guided pang tours negotiate successfully for right to return to work with proper procedures. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=297855191272696
Here are some fish reports on FB, there have been news stories about salmon being caught in the Sea of
Cortez?https://www.facebook.com/groups/278561439852318/
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So, is anyone (gringoes/MX's) wearing masks in LP? Anyone keeping distances at all? Crowds, cars, cafes?
Are people aware, on any level, that the virus is happening NOB?
I'm guessing no, no and no.
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Looks like BoLA is open for business. Good for them.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
You told us a month ago that 5% of Americans who get it, 8% of Canadians, and 11% of Mexicans will die. Don't try your new term of "case fatality
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Case fatality rate = deaths / confirmed cases. This is how it's officially defined.
If I "told" a month ago that it was 5%, then it was 5% due to the number of deaths and cases at the moment. Today it is what it is, check the
statistics. If this is difficult to understand, I can't help you.
The point is that this virus is not making you healthier. If you don't die you may get sick for a long time. After the SARS epidemic they were
seeing thyroid problems in lab tests of recovered patients a few years after the epidemic.
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Dont you already know its a deadly disease and only fools dont take care?
If people are calling the disease a nothing burger, then flock them, cut them out of your life and dont shed s tear if they die
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Fools dying out is not a problem.
The problem is that they will infect many other people before they either die or recover.
[Edited on 7-27-2020 by Alm]
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| Quote: Originally posted by weebray | | BTW, stories around here talk of unusual sightings of marine life not seen for many years. I wonder if there is a link? |
There have been quite a few stories of atypical marine activity. Here's an example from a couple of months ago:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=94553
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Deep sea oarfish this past week on La Paz beach.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/07/mysterious-deep-sea-oarfish...
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