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Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  | | Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Maybe a step in the right direction, but I
fail to see how it's going to be very helpful for transmission control with such long delays and (apparently) no associated contact tracing.
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Right. Alaska requires that you show a covid negative result taken within 3 days before they let you leave the airport. Border patrol should have
similar requirements. Tests should not be done at the border.
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Border is the first logical location to detect infected travelers, but if this testing is not mandatory and no further actions are being taken, it's
of little use. Requesting a proof of recent negative test can be done additionally. Minor detail here: it's not me but the linked article that
mentions 3-5 days (subsequently dropped from my post when quoted by Lencho).
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The testing station will provide useful data. For example, the percentage of the tests coming back positive will provide insight to the extent of the
infection in the border region.
And of course, people who are positive will be notified (via email or phone) so they can take appropriate action. At least they can attempt to protect
their family, friends, and others they normally come in contact with, albeit perhaps too late IF it takes days to get the results. But in this case
better late than never applies.
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My bad, it was the article about QuickLab testing in shipping containers that mentioned 3-5 days. The article on PedEast didn't say about processing
time so we can only guess. Most other centers take days. Exceptions are labs in big hospitals but they are busy processing their own contingent.
Interestingly, the lab work itself takes 6-8 hours, the rest is transit time to get sample to the lab and backlogs.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
And of course, people who are positive will be notified (via email or phone) so they can take appropriate action.
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Are you saying that people who test positive are allowed to enter? Without even a 2 week quarantine?
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The voluntary testing station is in the United States, by the trolley station. People that get tests have already cleared immigration and exited the
federal building. The station is a San Diego County facility and federal officials don't know who gets tested nor test results.
Anybody can walk up and get tested. It's open 6:30 am until 10:30 am. It takes 3 to 4 days to get the results.
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/aug/12/new-covid-19-testing-s...
https://www.countynewscenter.com/county-to-open-new-covid-19...
[Edited on 8-20-2020 by SFandH]
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This is how it's been in this country since the day one. No quarantine on ground crossings. Hardly any control in airports either, at best they will
"ask" you to self-quarantine at home.
To quarantine positive cases they would have to do something akin to Korea and Hong Kong ports of entry - test every traveler and (at least)
self-quarantine them at home with GPS-enabled phone app until you're cleared. This would essentially extinguish the cross-border day-workers but
then, it is not clear whether the economic consequences of this would be less or more severe than the cost of new cases.
[Edited on 8-21-2020 by Alm]
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
This is how it's been in this country since the day one. No quarantine on ground crossings. Hardly any control in airports either, at best they will
"ask" you to self-quarantine at home.
To quarantine positive cases they would have to do something akin to Korea and Hong Kong ports of entry - test every traveler and (at least)
self-quarantine them at home with GPS-enabled phone app until you're cleared. This would essentially extinguish the cross-border day-workers but
then, it is not clear whether the economic consequences of this would be less or more severe than the cost of new cases.
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Easy to defeat the phone app. Just leave your phone at home!
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It is not too difficult to get a new phone but not very convenient, either. Especially when results are issued within 24 hours like it was in Korea.
I didn't follow their program closely, but remember that there was a requirement to report in at certain intervals - from your "main" phone, and a
steep fine for leaving home for more than a few minutes - i.e. you could still take the garbage out or pick up mail. Probably there were other
details as well.
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