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Gee Whiz !
SURPRISINGLY, it "appears" that the debate won't be settled here.
Given this forum's historical track-record for rapidly curing the world's ills utilizing in-depth analysis and collective perceptual clarity, there
had been great hope ventured among those in the world community that the wealth of collective minds contributing here would resolve this dilemma.
Alas, even when placed before the great intellects represented here, resolution remains elusive and the outlook uncertain.
OH WELL.
Hey ............................ Happy Columbus Day !
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | A group of ppl on here should be utterly ashamed of themselves.
Getting a check from the govt. every month and don't care what happens to other ppl? |
Aren't you the "Forbes 500" CEO who got a PPP bailout from the government? Probably a lot more than the average SS check that was earned over a
lifetime of work by retirees.
BTW, did you have to pay that loan back? Or, just more corporate welfare paid for by us "little" people?
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 |
I actually listened to the whole interview JZ, are you familiar with cherry picking information to support your political agenda? the article does
not do a fair job of representing what was said, stuff taken out of context often loses its meaning.
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I don't think you understand what it means take something out of context. They literally wrote what the guy said over 2 mins, verbatim.
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Didn't you know that Columbus Day has been declared racist? You are no longer allowed to celebrate it, or you are deemed a racist.
[Edited on 10-12-2020 by JZ]
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MrBillM
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Eurocentrically Ecstatic
Speaking as one who is (according to Ancestry.com and Mi Hermana Mormon) entirely composed of European
(Irish-English-French-German-Scandanavian) roots, I am damned glad that Chris stumbled across the continent.
Too bad for (some of) the Aboriginals but, as they say, "you can't make an omelet without breaking some folks".
Or, something like that.
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| Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM |
Too bad for (some of) the Aboriginals but, as they say, "you can't make an omelet without breaking some folks".
Or, something like that. |
I think it's actually "Can't make an America without some genocide and slavery"
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I like that "rather not do it" and "do not advocate" are the same thing as begging world leaders not to do something.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Didn't you know that Columbus Day has been declared racist? You are no longer allowed to celebrate it, or you are deemed a racist.
[Edited on 10-12-2020 by JZ] |
Well, the post office is celebrating it, so can't be too bad!
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caj13
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by caj13 |
I actually listened to the whole interview JZ, are you familiar with cherry picking information to support your political agenda? the article does
not do a fair job of representing what was said, stuff taken out of context often loses its meaning.
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I don't think you understand what it means take something out of context. They literally wrote what the guy said over 2 mins, verbatim.
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Uh, any idea how long the interview was? that might be important!
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | Thats the bottom line - actions taken, and actions ignored - thats what puts us here in this position. 250,000 dead - that number could have
been much lower. I know it doesn't matter to some of you, unless of course you or a loved one is part of the 250,000 - then its a bit different -
right!
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Actually there are 1,085,352 humans dead from COVID. Let's not forget that Americans aren't the only ones that count.
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JZ
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Actually there are 1,085,352 humans dead from COVID. Let's not forget that Americans aren't the only ones that count. |
"Approximately 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,700 people lose their lives every day on the roads. An additional 20-50
million suffer non-fatal injuries, often resulting in long-term disabilities."
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From BBC
The head of the World Health Organization has ruled out a herd immunity response to the pandemic.
Herd immunity occurs when a large portion of a community becomes immune to a disease through vaccinations or through the mass spread of a disease.
Some have argued that coronavirus should be allowed to spread naturally in the absence of a vaccine.
But WHO chief Tedros Ghebreyesus said such an approach was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
There have been more than 37 million confirmed cases of coronavirus across the globe since the pandemic began. More than one million people are known
to have died.
While hundreds of vaccines are currently under development, with a number in advanced trials, none has yet received international approval.
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Comparing deaths from one source to another source is logical fallacy. You can't compare car deaths to illness deaths. We know this virus is at
least 4 times deadlier than the flu. Seriously peeps, all it takes is common sense to live the life you can and stay safe and keep others safe until
this passes. Historically pandemics take about 2 years, and that is w/o a vaccine. All this arguing is utterly stupid. Wash your effing hands, wear
a mask, don't dine or drink indoors unless you are under 40 and if your do stay away from the mature people in your life. Socially distance and enjoy
those outdoor dining experiences. I'm so sick of the lot of you arguing about stupid stuff when the solution is so gosh darned easy. You just have
to out your mind set into how long this is going to take and put your seatbelt on for the ride.
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | "Approximately 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,700 people lose their lives every day on the roads. An additional 20-50
million suffer non-fatal injuries, often resulting in long-term disabilities." |
This would a prime example of your flawed thinking process, that this is somehow relevant.
It would be like your kid getting killed by a drunk driver and your neighbor telling you that's no big deal because his aunt died of cancer last week.
And in case you're not aware, car accidents aren't contagious. Neither is heart disease, cancer, or various other examples one could give of the
things people die from.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama |
Seriously peeps, all it takes is common sense to live the life you can and stay safe and keep others safe until this passes. Historically pandemics
take about 2 years, and that is w/o a vaccine. All this arguing is utterly stupid. Wash your effing hands, wear a mask, don't dine or drink indoors
unless you are under 40 and if your do stay away from the mature people in your life. Socially distance and enjoy those outdoor dining experiences.
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I agree with you 100%. That's what I've been saying for months.
You have missed the hundreds of posts from the Coronabro's telling us to stay home and it's too dangerous to even visit places like the seven sisters
where there aren't ppl around for 40 miles.
They have a very nefarious agenda. And now the WHO is telling them to shut up and they are losing their minds. Notice how they have attacked the
messenger endlessly, but not the substance of the message?
[Edited on 10-13-2020 by JZ]
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
This would a prime example of your flawed thinking process, that this is somehow relevant.
It would be like your kid getting killed by a drunk driver and your neighbor telling you that's no big deal because his aunt died of cancer last week.
And in case you're not aware, car accidents aren't contagious. Neither is heart disease, cancer, or various other examples one could give of the
things people die from.
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It's 100% relevant. Because life and laws are about balancing safety vs. our ability to live life.
We could eliminate car accidents, but how would society function?
Strict lock downs other than to help medical resources to gear up do not strike the proper balance. Mainly because they have tremendous downsides in
terms of the economy, mental health, drug abuse, suicide, and so on.
This is what I've said for six months and the WHO just told you.
Those with agendas 1. at risk ppl (especially those who don't need to work) who don't care about others who are not at risk and need to work and
live, 2. ppl who want the US economy to tank in an election year, and 3. several other nefarious reasons, have stated on here across hundreds of
posts that that strict lock downs are imperative, and the negative impact of them are meaningless or made up.
This is why Goat and his cohorts just aren't good ppl.
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Back to the original Topic.
JZ, are you locked down right now? anyone else? who here is locked down? what states are locked down?
I'm just trying to get an understanding of what "locked down " is.
and just to reinforce. If any of you have the time and want to educate yourself about what the WHO says about lockdowns, instead of hearing it
through the filter of Trumpty Dumbties spouting headlines from a right wing magazine -
I would strongly recommend you go listen to the whole interview, and all of a sudden, this discussion here becomes pretty much a waste of time,
other than a platform for you antimaskers to beat your chests like your superhero president!
and BTW - Halloween is coming fast - what a perfect opportunity. I think the hottest costume for the holiday will be Trump in a tear away suit with
a superman T shirt underneath. If its good enough for him, you ought to be honored to follow suite!
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | "Approximately 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,700 people lose their lives every day on the roads. An additional 20-50
million suffer non-fatal injuries, often resulting in long-term disabilities." |
This would a prime example of your flawed thinking process, that this is somehow relevant.
It would be like your kid getting killed by a drunk driver and your neighbor telling you that's no big deal because his aunt died of cancer last week.
And in case you're not aware, car accidents aren't contagious. Neither is heart disease, cancer, or various other examples one could give of the
things people die from.
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I love this rationale.
How is someone's distracted driving, reaching into a bag of cheeseburgers or texting, crossing the center line and killing you, not contagious?
I like beer, better than most people.
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 |
and BTW - Halloween is coming fast - what a perfect opportunity. I think the hottest costume for the holiday will be Trump in a tear away suit with
a superman T shirt underneath. If its good enough for him, you ought to be honored to follow suite! |
Silly you thinking you can take your kids or grand kids trick or treating.
“Door to door trick or treating is not allowed because it can be very difficult to maintain proper social distancing on porches and at front doors
especially in neighborhoods that are popular with trick or treaters,” the new guidance reads.
“Since some of the traditional ways in which this holiday is celebrated does not allow you to minimize contact with non-household members, it is
important to plan early and identify safer alternatives,” county health officials said in a statement.
To that end, those who wish to celebrate Halloween amid the pandemic with safer alternatives can host or attend online get-togethers, costume contests
or pumpkin carving parties.
Revelers can also take part in drive-by costume contests with judges maintaining proper social distance, decorate their homes or yards or participate
in drive-by events with treat bags – although any candy doled out should be commercially packaged, county health officials said.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/09/los-angeles-bans-halloween-tri...
Only to reverse itself after ppl finally say enough is enough.
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I wonder if there is going to be a bump in the birthrate, due to people of breeding age spending more time at home together?
That could go the other way as well, leading to a bump in the divorce rate!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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