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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 09:42 AM
Need guidance - Fishing within the Laws


Hi All: I leave Colorado around Nov 15 for a 30 +/- day camping, fishing, and diving trip down the Gulf coast. I will be in a pop-up camper pulled by a Tacoma Off Road. I have a 16 foot heavy duty inflatable Sea Eagle canoe. I hope to fish from the canoe, fish from shore, spearfish while snorkeling, and collect shellfish. I will eat everything I catch, or will release it.
Some questions: Will I need a Mexican fishing license for the above list of activities? If "yes", can I get one in advance? Are there species that are off limits to non-Mexican citizens? Any other "heads-ups" about which I should be aware? I want to be a thoughtful, law-abiding tourist/visitor. Thank you!
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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 10:30 AM


Sounds like a blast. Where do you plan on going?

Yes, you'll need a license. You can get one for a week, month, or year.

Gringos aren't technically allowed to catch shell fish.




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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 10:34 AM


Shore surf fishing, no license.

All of other fishing, need a license.

Check all current regulations.

You may be able to get license online, not sure currently. You can call one of the landings in San Diego, they would know.

Good fishing.

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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 10:36 AM


Surf fishing needs no license, but any craft on the water requires everyone onboard to have one. Absolutely no shellfish collecting by non-Mexicans (clams, scallops, lobsters, etc).



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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 10:55 AM


Thank you all
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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 01:25 PM


Everything mentioned above about fishing is accurate.

Now, about your Sea Eagle canoe -

November is the start of the windy season. The north wind blows most everyday from Nov through March. That is the reason that windsurfers and kiteboarders flock to Baja in the winter. Mornings tend to be calm and afternoons are usually very windy.

I am a kiteboarder and a fisherman and have made the trip and activities that you are planning on every year for the past 24 years. I have a 16 ft hard shell kayak that I use for fishing. The kayak is probably much easier to handle in the wind than an inflatable (and therefore lightweight) canoe. The higher profile of the canoe may add to the difficulty. It can be done but choose your days carefully.

Be very cautious about going south (downwind) in the morning and fishing in the lee of a headland or point. The wind will come up without you realizing it and you may not be able to return north around the point until after dark.

Graham Mcintosh has done a few kayak trips on the gulf side in the winter. His travel reports are very informative on wind and wave conditions. Search this board for his posts.

As I said, we have done your exact trip for 24 years. And we are leaving for #25 in a few weeks. We are kiteboarders so we look forward to the windy afternoons.

Baja is a blast - you will have a great time.

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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 03:17 PM


If you have a choice, take a kayak instead of a canoe.
Canoes are not good in wind and seas, and wind comes up almost every day... also easier to self-rescue with a kayak.





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[*] posted on 10-17-2020 at 03:21 PM


To use the Nomad search, and find adventure author Graham Mackintosh posts, simply type in Graham (his username here)in the second box: by (username):

You may enjoy his website, too? www.grahammackintosh.com

His kayaking page: https://grahammackintosh.com/kayaking-sea-of-cortez

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[*] posted on 10-18-2020 at 08:32 AM


Wow - thank you so much!! I will be learning a lot on this first driving + camping adventure. My last experiences in Baja were 32 years ago in Cabo San Lucas - obviously, things down there have changed markedly. Won't be visiting Cabo ....

I really appreciate all of the great advice and guidance.
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[*] posted on 10-18-2020 at 08:46 AM


Going to a protected bay like Agua Verde or San Basilio would be good way to get your feet wet. Concepcion as well.





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[*] posted on 10-18-2020 at 12:02 PM


We have obtained our fishing licenses online for the past several years. Here is one site https://www.sportfishingbcs.gob.mx
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[*] posted on 10-18-2020 at 06:07 PM


Graham is a great resource. He chose to boat over to his latest adventure out of BOLA. I’m guessing because of the weather? My roadie friend I met last Feb went with him to help him set up camp and then he took her back.

I would love to meet him and yes, as everyone said Doug, he’s worth facebooking with.


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[*] posted on 10-19-2020 at 08:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Mother of Dragons  
Graham is a great resource. He chose to boat over to his latest adventure out of BOLA. I’m guessing because of the weather? My friend roadie I’ve with him to help him set up camp and then he took her back.

I would love to meet him and yes, as everyone said Doug, he’s worth facebooking with.


I usually hear from Graham before he does one of his solo adventures. Not this time, but he is sending me Spot location pings daily and yes, he is on the island. He typically hires a panga to take him and his kayak to the island (Angel de la Guarda) as it is too far or dangerous to be too distant from the coast in a kayak. He apparently enjoys being 'marooned with very little beer'!




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[*] posted on 10-20-2020 at 06:32 AM


Another big "thank you" to everyone who has responded. I plan to follow all of the advice above.

For those of you who are interested, below is a link to the description of the Sea Eagle inflatable canoe that I have purchased. It appears to be a well-designed product with some interesting and attractive characteristics. The higher-than-kayak sidewalls are certainly something that I will have to experience. My plans have been/are to fish within sheltered bays and coves.

https://www.seaeagle.com/TravelCanoe/TC16
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[*] posted on 10-20-2020 at 11:10 AM


I just received my Baja Sur fishing license, using the website provided above by Whisky Witch. Printed it out on my home printer. Thank you!! - I will buy you a whiskey if we cross paths in Baja :)
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[*] posted on 10-20-2020 at 03:54 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Doug Landolfi  
I just received my Baja Sur fishing license, using the website provided above by Whisky Witch. Printed it out on my home printer. Thank you!! - I will buy you a whiskey if we cross paths in Baja :)


If you are using an inkjet printer the ink will run if it gets wet. Print two or three more and keep them in baggies for protection.
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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 06:25 AM


Thanks to bkbend. That is a great - and practical - suggestion! Will do.

Thanks again to all who have responded. Departure date is getting closer - excitement level is high
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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 06:40 PM


Sounds like it’s going I be an exciting trip for a first timer.

Does. Anyone have suggestions he should see between Mexicali crossing to San Felipe?
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 11:17 AM


... and, following onto Mother of Dragons point above, I add the following:

I spent 9 months traveling around the earth - west to east, primarily in 3rd world countries, without a single advance hotel reservation. So, I am comfortable with adventure travel. With that in mind, between San Felipe and Cabo Pulmo - beyond the obvious sites and logical waterfront locations - what are the three things way off the beaten track that I should not miss? Doug
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 05:30 PM


Off road tails are the most see and do.

Particularly the canyon drives from MX 1 to the Sea of Cortez South of Loreto.

Agua Verde is the easiest, but none are very difficult. The trail from Cuidad Constitucion to San Evaristo (and then on to La Paz) is probably the one I'd suggest the most.

Also, Constitucion to Puerto El Gato is special. The bay there is incredible.

The other must do is seeing the islands around La Paz.



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