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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 01:00 PM
Q Anon in Baja ???


This forum is by and large a portal for citizens of USA who have an interest in Baja . Certainly residents from other countries visit Baja and might read BN for informational and recreational reading, but the perspectives and opinions voiced are predominantly those of US residents/citizens.

As such, it is not difficult to sometimes notice biases.....where are the better tacos, what tires should I use, whose map is better, have I been to all the right spots, etc.

Such "gringo" conversations may or may not accurately reflect the views of Baja locals......but certainly are reflective of posters' baseline frames of reference.

I came across an interesting article that helped me understand what drives some of the more extreme perspectives : QAnon.

A interesting read.... warning....no pictures , it requires a curious mind and a handful of minutes:

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5




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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
This forum is by and large a portal for citizens of USA who have an interest in Baja . Certainly residents from other countries visit Baja and might read BN for informational and recreational reading, but the perspectives and opinions voiced are predominantly those of US residents/citizens.


You don't know this and your assumption is used to make more assumptions.

You are talking about the dregs of humanity Ged. Right wing nut jobs who believe Democrats traffic children and are satanists.

Qanon doesn't belong on this forum and discussion about them, is, puzzling. You wanting to start an argument here? What the F are you doing?

Curious mind, indeed. Keep reading. Nothing I want to know about these misguided, most likely, Republicans.




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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 01:47 PM


Lee,
I am not looking for trouble....I can do that in other ways.

I found the article interesting in that it helped me re-frame my understanding of just how it gains its traction. And it helped me formulate my response and reactions to such social phenomena.....as I often come out of the gate like you.

Did you read it?

It's really an article on how the mind works at times.....
" process....not content"




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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
This forum is by and large a portal for citizens of USA who have an interest in Baja . Certainly residents from other countries visit Baja and might read BN for informational and recreational reading, but the perspectives and opinions voiced are predominantly those of US residents/citizens.


You don't know this and your assumption is used to make more assumptions.

You are talking about the dregs of humanity Ged. Right wing nut jobs who believe Democrats traffic children and are satanists.

Qanon doesn't belong on this forum and discussion about them, is, puzzling. You wanting to start an argument here? What the F are you doing?

Curious mind, indeed. Keep reading. Nothing I want to know about these misguided, most likely, Republicans.


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[Edited on 11-19-2020 by motoged]




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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 03:37 PM


Kind of how the saw movies work? Interesting.
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My intention with this post is NOT to stir up crap....but, rather,
to see/understand how such processes work. In my profession, we were encouraged to look beyond the "content" of what a person has to say/think and understand the underlying cognitive processes that keep maladaptive patterns to continue unchanged.

What Qanoners might believe is a product of how they are vulnerable to such beliefs.

As for relevance to Baja..... it might fit for the processes that set up a belief in a chupacabra.... or all police are corrupt and seeking bribes....


As for the Saw movies....they are too spooky for me :o






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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 04:14 PM


Must be a slow day in the Kamaloops to bring that crap to a Baja forum, eh?
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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 04:46 PM


I just had to click, did I miss the message or the news report? The Q AGM is coming to Cabo? or did a tunnel emerge holding all the blood or did they find JFK jr?

Article is interesting. Odd to start a thread here but??

Of course its all nonsense but i do find it interesting to see a cult operating in broad daylight. To the cults of the pre-internet days they had to pull off some great marketing and one on one persuasion to get the job done. To get sucked in you needed active participation , you had to walk to meetings, get on the telephone, read a flyer. Now you just need a computer, photo editor and some lonely people to get started.

Only way to combat this is to get CRITICAL Thinking as part of the k-12 schooling curriculum. You have to wait for a few generations to age out before you get back to the normal fringe element of under 5%. Its way to high now.

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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 05:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by white whale  


Article is interesting. Odd to start a thread here but??

........to get CRITICAL Thinking

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That is my point/invitation.... being a bit odd is tertiary ;)




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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 05:39 PM


Got to admit I had to look that one up, tertiary. Using those big city words makes me think you know what your talking about. :))

Have fun with this thread as it's starting to get to deep and too intellectual for me.

By the way on a more important subject, water is down to 76.5 but today we still landed 3 Dorado and 4 Cabrilla and lots of Needlefish and Trumpet Fish that we released.

Top that with your big city words for importance.





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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 06:08 PM


Qanon followers are a small fringe group of idiots. History has always had fringe groups of idiots, cult followers, etc.
The only reason Qanon has got any ink recently is that the marmalade emperor is a Qanon promoter. The marmalade emperor promotes all right wind fringe groups (Qanon, Proud Boys, white supremacists, “very fine people,” etc) no matter how whacky or morally repugnant, because he has no morals, no filter, no class. In fact, the marmalade emperor founded and led a whacky, racist fringe group called birthers.


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[*] posted on 11-19-2020 at 08:47 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Howard  
Got to admit I had to look that one up, tertiary. Using those big city words makes me think you know what your talking about. :))

Have fun with this thread as it's starting to get to deep and too intellectual for me.

By the way on a more important subject, water is down to 76.5 but today we still landed 3 Dorado and 4 Cabrilla and lots of Needlefish and Trumpet Fish that we released.

Top that with your big city words for importance.


how about small words, I recently got called a "prig" for posting "oh you guys":lol:........prig?




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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 05:53 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  

how about small words, I recently got called a "prig" for posting "oh you guys":lol:........prig?


You're welcome. Your vocabulary is a bit broader today, too!

And, now you have "tertiary" as a bonus word, all for FREE!

Who says language is boring?

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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 06:40 AM


great read ged. thanks for posting it. the thought process that enables the ability to disregard logic and facts is an interesting study.
of course, for some here it will zoom right overhead, and likely make thier heads hurt.
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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 07:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Lee  


You are talking about the dregs of humanity Ged. Right wing nut jobs who believe Democrats traffic children and are satanists.



There have been many arrests of Democratic operatives involved in sex trafficking children. Jeffrey Epstein, G Maxwell, Harvey Weinstein, Anthony Weiner, etc all who are Democrats who hosted fundraisers. Clinton and other Democratic operatives traveled together with Epstein repeatedly to "Lolita Island".

Many hundreds have been arrested recently in public operations, not sure how you remain unaware.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/13/jeffrey-eps...

https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2019-...

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/16/a-look-at-jeffrey-epstein...

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/07/10/epstein-bean-and-buck...

http://themillenniumreport.com/2020/08/ghislaine-maxwells-li...

https://nypost.com/2019/11/07/virginia-democrat-once-jailed-...

https://newspunch.com/arkansas-democrat-spokesman-pedophilia...

https://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/09/13/democrats-have-a-pe...

https://theblacksphere.net/2018/10/pedophile-arrests-soar-un...

https://conservativeus.com/hundreds-child-ring-california-le...

A short List of Democrats found guilty of child pornography, pedophilia etc.

Democratic aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, Jeff Rosato, plead guilty to charges of trading in child pornography.

Democratic donor and billionaire, Jeffrey Epstein, ran an underage child sex brothel and was convicted of soliciting underage girls for prostitution.

Democratic New York Congressman, Anthony Weiner, plead guilty to transferring obscene material to a minor as part of a plea agreement for sexted and sending Twitter DMs to underage girls as young as 15.

Democratic donor, activist, and Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein is being criminally prosecuted and civilly sued for years of sexual abuse (that was well known “secret” in Hollywood) including underage sexual activities with aspiring female actresses.

Democratic activist and #metoo proponent, Asia Argento, settled a lawsuit for sexual harassment stemming from sexual activities with an underage actor.

Democratic Mayor of Racine, Wisconsin, Gary Becker, was convicted of attempted child seduction, child pornography, and other child sex crimes.

Democratic Seattle Mayor Ed Murray resigned after multiple accusations of child sexual abuse were levied against him including by family members.

Democratic activist and aid to NYC Mayor De Blasio, Jacob Schwartz was arrested on possession of 3,000+ child pornographic images.

Democratic activist and actor, Russell Simmons, was sued based on an allegation of sexual assault where he coerced an underage model for sex.

Democratic Governor of Oregon, Neil Goldschmidt, after being caught by a newspaper, publicly admitted to having a past sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl after the statute of limitations on the rape charges had expired.

Democratic Illinois Congressman, Mel Reynolds resigned from Congress after he was convicted of statutory rape of a 16-year-old campaign volunteer.

Democratic New York Congressman, Fred Richmond, was arrested in Washington D.C. for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy.

Democratic activist, donor, and director, Roman Polanski, fled the country after pleading guilty to statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl. Democrats and Hollywood actors still defend him to this day, including, Whoopi Goldberg, Martin Scorcese, Woody Allen, David Lynch, Wim Wenders, Pedro Almodovar, Tilda Swinton and Monica Bellucci.

Democratic State Senator from Alaska, George Jacko, was found guilty of sexual harassment of an underage legislative page.

Democratic State Representative candidate for Colorado, Andrew Myers, was convicted for possession of child pornography and enticing children.

Democratic Illinois Congressman, Gus Savage was investigated by the Democrat-controlled House Committee on Ethics for attempting to rape an underage female Peace Corps volunteer in Zaire. The Committee concluded that while the events did occur his apology was sufficient and took no further action.

Democratic activist, donor, and spokesperson for Subway, Jared Fogle, was convicted of distribution and receipt of child pornography and traveling to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor.

Democratic State Department official, Carl Carey, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested on ten counts of child porn possession.

Democratic Maine Assistant Attorney General, James Cameron, was sentenced to just over 15 years in federal prison for seven counts of child porn possession, receipt and transmission.

Democratic State Department official, Daniel Rosen, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested and charged with allegedly soliciting sex from a minor over the internet.

Democratic State Department official, James Cafferty, pleaded guilty to one count of transportation of child pornography.

Democratic radio host, Bernie Ward, plead guilty to one count of sending child pornography over the Internet.

Democratic deputy attorney general from California, Raymond Liddy, was arrested for possession of child pornography.

Democratic Illinois State Representative, Keith Farnham, has resigned and was charged with possession of child pornography and has been accused of bragging at an online site about sexually molesting a 6-year-old girl.

Democratic spokesperson for the Arkansas Democratic Party, Harold Moody, Jr, was charged with distribution and possession of child pornography.

Democratic Radnor Township Board of Commissioners member, Philip Ahr, resigned from his position after being charged with possession of child pornography and abusing children between 2 and 6 years-old.

Democratic activist and BLM organizer, Charles Wade, was arrested and charged with human trafficking and underage prostitution.

Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sixx and compelling prostitution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking.

Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.

Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.

Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.

Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.

Democratic Former Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, was given a life sentence in jail for raping a 4-year-old girl after claiming “she initiated it”.

Democratic Former Mayor of Winston, Oregeon, Kenneth Barrett, was arrested for setting up a meeting to have sixx with a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer.

Democratic Former Mayor of Randolph, Nebraska, Dwayne L. Schutt, was arrested and charged with four counts of felony third-degree sexual assault of a child and one count of intentional child abuse.

Democratic Former Mayor of Stockton, California, Anthony Silva, was charged with providing alcohol to young adults during a game of strip poker that included a 16-year-old boy at a camp for underprivileged children run by the mayor.

Democratic Former Mayor of Millbrook, New York, Donald Briggs, was arrested and charged with inappropriate sexual contact with a person younger than 17.

Democratic party leader for Victoria County, Texas, Stephen Jabbour, plead guilty to possession and receiving over half a million child pornographic images.

Democratic activist and fundraiser, Terrence Bean, was arrested on charges of sodomy and sex abuse in a case involving a 15-year-old boy and when the alleged victim declined to testify, and the judge dismissed the case.

Democratic Party Chairman for Davidson County, Tennessee, Rodney Mullin, resigned amid child pornography allegations.

Democratic activist, Andrew Douglas Reed, pleaded guilty to a multiple counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor for producing child pornography.

Democratic official from Terre Haute, Indiana, David Roberts was sentenced to federal prison for producing and possessing child pornography including placing hidden cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms at a home he shared with two minor female victims.

Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sixx and compelling prostitution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking.

Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.

Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.

Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.

Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.

Democratic Former Mayor of Dawson, Georgia, Christopher Wright, was indicted on the charges of aggravated child molestation, aggravated sodomy, rape, child molestation and statutory rape of an 11-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl.


I'll add those found participating in satanic rituals next...


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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 09:23 AM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  


A interesting read.... warning....no pictures , it requires a curious mind and a handful of minutes:

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5


Hey, there ARE pictures in the article.
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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 11:54 AM


As usual, gnukid entirely misses the point and deflects.

Gnukid- there are individual perverts of all stripes. No one contends that all sexual perverts are Republicans.

That has nothing to do with absurd conspiracy theories and brains which can't distinguish fact from fiction.

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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 01:31 PM


gnuboy, AKA " professor footnote" strikes again. pssssst...nuboy, nobody's reading the wealth of footnotes and links you so generously provide. however it's mightily impressive that you have time to do it. carry on, you nearly have me convinced.
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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 03:57 PM


Quite a list from kid G'new. Number 2 (Epstein) in the list was surprising to see. I will grant you 100% he was a trafficker without question. Too bad we didn;t get a trial. The guy was pure scum. The GIZ trial will be the new trial of the century. But rather than a cabal of organized ring of sex trafficking, I think we'll find this was rich dudes who got into honey traps and got blackmailed for $$'s or information. Just your basic Soviet entrapment detail. No way Epstein got that rich on his own smarts.

The vid clip of Jeff and Don yucking it up with the dancing gals has become famous in the news. So was Don a double agent then? Feeding info to Q in the 80-90's or was he a rare triple agent? and then he took over as Q second in command in 2016? I can't follow all the paths. You must have to be smarter than me to get into the Q club.




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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 04:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
great read ged. thanks for posting it. the thought process that enables the ability to disregard logic and facts is an interesting study.
of course, for some here it will zoom right overhead, and likely make thier heads hurt.


Maybe even make them learn to spell.

Got to be careful when being judgmental.

How do you spell their or thier?
In summary: There is the most common. It has the word here in it, which is helpful because it's often about location. They're always means "they are." Their is the possessive form of they.


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[*] posted on 11-20-2020 at 04:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
Quote: Originally posted by Lee  


You are talking about the dregs of humanity Ged. Right wing nut jobs who believe Democrats traffic children and are satanists.



There have been many arrests of Democratic operatives involved in sex trafficking children. Jeffrey Epstein, G Maxwell, Harvey Weinstein, Anthony Weiner, etc all who are Democrats who hosted fundraisers. Clinton and other Democratic operatives traveled together with Epstein repeatedly to "Lolita Island".
[Edited on 11-20-2020 by gnukid]


Look, Paul, unless your conspiratorial mind believes Qanon is making honest accusations, Qanon is as rogue as the Teaparty. There is no trafficking, or satan worship, happening with Democrats. Try again.

Those Democrat pedophiles out there are also the dregs of the earth.

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