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JZ
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We rented an off-road trailer this weekend; Think it would do well in Baja
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Bob and Susan
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what "trailer engineer" puts the axle in the rear of a trailer?
most are in the middle aren't they?
too much tongue weight...get the AAA Card ready
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John Harper
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Very interesting design. Please tell us more about it. What is the tongue weight? Overall weight?
Looks troublesome taking through dips and high spots.
John
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I have a 4'x6' utility trailer that I have pulled behind my old Kia Sportage soft top. I believe was originally an eight footer that was cut down,
and yes, it is very tongue heavy when loaded with fire wood.
Air bags on the Kia handle the load when I am not able to distribute the weight to the rear, but I love the way it handles off road! One year I
followed five hundred miles of the Baja 1k course pulling that trailer with no problems.
I run matching wheels and tires on the Kia and trailer, except the trailer tire are at 10 psi empty or lightly loaded, 15 psi loaded. That is on all
roads. The low psi takes most of the bounce out of the ride, and I don't get any sway!
I am setting up a larger trailer to pull behind my Trooper, and it will be with matching wheels and tires, and the axle to the rear!
[Edited on 12-6-2020 by AKgringo]
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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advrider
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I've looked at that one but we are leaning toward a model with a pop top so you can stand up inside. How did it do and tow.
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You can’t stand up in those little trailers. I prefer to just sleep on the ground (with or without a tent).
Woke!
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pacificobob
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are they available without the pimp-style paint job? rather embarrassing to drive i would imagine.
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To answer your question, it depends on where you are going. Rough off road I don't think it would do so good. I'd stay away from the 7 sisters and
certainly don't try the Mission Santa Maria road. The highway and easy to reach beaches your good.
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Napping in the Wild
Over the decades in Baja, having woken a few times nose-to-nose with a Coyote or (twice) a Horse, the advantage to
bedding down inside a metal can seems an attractive option.
Years back (early-mid '70s) rough camping in Baja, we ran into a gringo touring in his Baja Bug who had fashioned a folding plywood platform he'd use
(along with a rolled-up mat) to bed down in his Bug after he'd removed the front seats. Pretty nifty.
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Mr. Bills
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The tongue weight does look to be a potential issue based on how it loads the rear suspension of the Tacoma, but on the other hand that could be a
photographic illusion caused by the adjacent rake of the trailer with its lifted suspension and large tire size. Something to investigate further.
This is my offroad trailer as it looks today, a 1946 Bantam T-3C. My dad purchased it in 1965 expressly for a trip to the Sea of Cortez in 1966 - my
first jeep trip to Baja at age 15. I have old photos of that trip showing the trailer on the beach at Nuevo Mazatlan, but have yet to find the right
box.
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two things.....where do the scoots go and someones gonna lose their mind in the regular lanes!
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Some folks like that kind of blingy look....wonder if the trailer is insured for travel outside of USA?
This "overland" equipment fad gives a lot of city-folk influencers their moment of fame.... over-priced and under-used.
Looks good in front of Starbucks.
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Maderita
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Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  | what "trailer engineer" puts the axle in the rear of a trailer?
most are in the middle aren't they?
too much tongue weight...get the AAA Card ready |
The standard "rule of thumb" on a single axle trailer (utility/box trailer) is to place the axle at 60/40. So, a 10' bed or box has the axle
positioned 6' from the front of the bed/box.
That tends to "idiot-proof" the weight distribution while loading, most often automatically adding tongue weight. Too little tongue weight results in
sway and an out of control trailer.
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Are the two doors fore and aft access to the fridge and/or a swing out stove?
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Don Pisto
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https://offgridtrailers.com/expedition-trailer/
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StuckSucks
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Was the photo taken at Hungry Valley?
Whose Tacoma? I thought you said those trucks were for high school girls.
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JZ
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Ballinger Canyon. About 50 miles above Ojai. My kid's Taco.
Camp setup.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | what "trailer engineer" puts the axle in the rear of a trailer?
most are in the middle aren't they?
too much tongue weight...get the AAA Card ready |
It doesn't have an axle. The Taco sags too much and should be adjusted. It would be perfect behind my Silverado.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | To answer your question, it depends on where you are going. Rough off road I don't think it would do so good. I'd stay away from the 7 sisters and
certainly don't try the Mission Santa Maria road. The highway and easy to reach beaches your good. |
21 inch groud clearance. 50 degree departure angle in the back. All aluminum except the frame.
I'm pretty sure behind the right truck it would tackle the Seven Sisters without too much trouble. Even the rough patches between Puerto Canoas and
San Jose. The steep parts that are rough. Bays in the South part of the SS world be super easy.
I'm not an off-road trailer designer, but I'd guess this is why the wheels are so far back. It pulled great on the highway and the little bit of
off-road we took it on. Zero sway.
[Edited on 12-7-2020 by JZ]
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JZ
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They have 15 different wraps you can choose from. Different colors and designs. Or you can do a custom one.
5 ppl in 3 days came up and said it looked badass.
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