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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  |
Opponents, MAINLY REPUBLICANS, BELIEVE these demands prove that San Diego Unified and Los Angeles Unified School District’s decision to conduct
classes online is a political one, not driven by the data. |
Yes, it's clearly all the teachers union fault. Republicans just showed us yesterday at our nation's Capitol how far they will go with a "belief"
unfounded in fact. Enjoy the KoolAid.
John
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Opponents, MAINLY REPUBLICANS, BELIEVE these demands prove that San Diego Unified and Los Angeles Unified School District’s decision to conduct
classes online is a political one, not driven by the data. |
Yes, it's clearly all the teachers union fault. Republicans just showed us yesterday at our nation's Capitol how far they will go with a "belief"
unfounded in fact. Enjoy the KoolAid.
John |
Read their demands. Don't try to spin it on one word or deflect it by bringing up some whackados. That's lazy and deceptive. And why make
childrens' education political at all.
[Edited on 1-7-2021 by JZ]
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John Harper
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That horse left the barn decades ago.
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Thinking about travel?
An interesting take:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/philosophy-covid-travel-politicians-1.5862586
Don't believe everything you think....
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So lets examine JZ's points of contention - from a factual and logical point of view
first he writes (numerous times)
About 22K under age 55 have died. Less than car crashes.
OK JZ - Besides your premise being completely flawed ( a point you should have learned in debate 101. And if you had actually learned that lesson,
you MIGHT have had a shot at passing the BAR - didn't work out that way eh?
anyway your number is wrong - completely wrong - and it's wrong enough that it makes your argument actually support locking down and extensive
measures. See, when you get the facts wrong - you end up self destroying your supposed point - thats Debate 101 again - maybe you should have
taken notesd!
so if you want to continue that debate - come back with a real number - instead of something you apparently pulled out of someone's sunshine ingress
port!
JZs next pontification
Millions under 55 are without work. Millions more are in depression. A hundred thousand+ small businesses have closed forever.
so
Any way to get actual numbers and reports? How do you know a business is closed forever. If a restaurant closes and choses to no re-open, then a
new restaurant comes in and opens up - is that a lost business still? or would that count as Covid created Jobs?
any idea how many people have become depressed because one of their family members are part of the 350 ,000 people have died? or does that depression
not count?
Next JZ spouts this this right wing talking point
20 million school age kids are being held hostage by teachers unions (while their leaders posts on IG from Old San Juan in PuertoRico).
On a personal Note JZ, why is it you can go on vacation anywhere and anytime you want - but Teachers Union leaders are Banned from doing that? who
is it that decides which is OK, and which is evil JZ?
and finally JZ illustrates his complete lack of reading comprehension
Fauci says the kids must go back to school. The WHO says lockdowns are terrible for poor countries.
In reality:
Fauci says kids must go back to school - SAFELY JZ. Had your orange overlord instituted a nationwide robust testing program (6 - 8 million per day)
and extensive contact tracing - we would have been safely back in schools long ago - but he didn't JZ - and why was that? It wasn't a political
reason - was it?
and we already addressed the WHO statement several weeks ago, with me pointing out you obviously did not read and understand their statement, and
had apparently no ability to apply that to current conditions. Go back and re-read it JZ - if you need help interpreting/ explaining it - just let
me know, I'd be glad to help you overcome your lack of comprehension!
[Edited on 1-8-2021 by caj13]
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JZ
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I'm not sure what you are rambling about.
As of today, 23,250 under 55 have died. Most of them with existing health issues or obesity. Source CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Per the National Safety Council 38K died in car crashes in 2019. I don't know how many were over 55, but, I think it's safe to assume it's not more
40% of them.
All your other points are false, but I'm not going down that rat hole with you. I've posted direct quotes from the WHO many times.
"The only time we believe a lockdown in justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources; protect your health workers who
are exhausted," Dr Nabarro said.
"But by and large, we'd rather not do it." "Lockdowns have just one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an
awful lot poorer."
[Edited on 1-8-2021 by JZ]
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More I want my way Ca crap . He asked a question if you can't answer it . Why not shut up from dog pictures to air planes get real. 
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Happy New Year, Larry!
For whatever reason, some Nomads here like to dictate how others should enjoy life or have us stay locked up in fear. It is tough on us all who are
not traveling, but if you want to judge if it is right or wrong, keep it to yourself. Hating others who are having fun or a normal life is your right
but not your public duty.
The next 4 years are going to be miserable with $5-$10/ gallon gasoline and all the price increases on everything that needs transportation to get to
you... and that is everything! So, let's be nice to each other through this and maybe take time to learn to speak Mandarin?
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
No problem, those Bill Gates nanochips being injected with the vaccines, include Mandarin and Russian along with the mind control programs.  |
Ni Hao, DK!
ALL Democrats speak Chinese already, you didn't know that?
Zai jian
John
[Edited on 1-9-2021 by John Harper]
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I doubt anything I say will change anyone’s mind on here, I’m sorry I got involved. I’m speechless.
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JZ
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The doggie is home and met her new mommy.
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I am almost speechless....for other reasons.
BN is an outlet for information, help, and entertainment.
Some posters use it as such....and every once in a while someone posts something that stirs up a lot of feelings. Political comments do that for some
of us. Both sides of "The Divide" post their replies, responses, and reactions.
As an individual who tends to hold liberal views, I have certainly expressed my views and opinions. On occasion, a poster will come along with
statements I find irresistable....and at such times I have let loose with my thoughts.
Some Nomads agree, some disagree, and some suggest that I should disappear (or get disappeared). That's all fine and well.
Recently I posted some comments in this thread that related to a frequent poster, his style of commentary and a perception supported by others that
this poster is primarily self-focussed and self-centered.
That post was removed and I received a warning from our moderator that I would be banned from posting on BN if I made such comments again in the
future.
So, the next u2u message I get is from this individual threatening me (not the first time) with"exposing" me and sending pictures of me throughout my
life to everyone I know
via the internet.
I will do my best to restrain myself from my pernicious predilection of calling this guy out with his posts (while seeing others doing it on a fairly
consistent basis).
As I really don't have much to hide about my life, anyone wanting to see pictures of me throughout my life, please let me know.....I can muster some
up. Sorry, no naked snaps, no Cops footage, and no wanted posters.
So, while not being speechless, I am curtailing my editorials. I will leave that up for the regulars....hopefully some will continue calling BS when
they see it.
I can be reached by throwing a stone at the door of my cellar where I am holed up in fear, screwing the gov't out of my paid-for social security
pension, being a terrible person, and all that.
Don't believe everything you think....
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an unquenchable thirst for validation.
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged |
So, the next u2u message I get is from this individual threatening me (not the first time) with"exposing" me and sending pictures of me throughout my
life to everyone I know via the internet. |
Attempted blackmail, extortion, and wire fraud. A trifecta of felonies.
John
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Goat,
Keep up the good work.
To some, the truth hurts. The times we live in.
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motoged, i hope you will continue to post. i find your comments refreshing and insightful..
i continue to be repelled by the ******y-ness of jizzy and sad comments.
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | motoged, i hope you will continue to post. i find your comments refreshing and insightful..
i continue to be repelled by the ******y-ness of jizzy and sad comments. |
Oh, I am not going away. I just need to curtail my comments about some politically cretinous ideologies, attention hoars, and similar chite magnets.
This moth is learning to not always flutter directly into the flame 
Don't believe everything you think....
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Moth to the flame?
Ged, it is more like a bull going after the red cape. Not only will the cape get yanked away, the guy has a sword behind his back. Ignore the cape!
By the way Ged, I enjoyed the couple of days we spent exploring central Baja. I have a different point of view on a few issues, but I respect you,
and your opinions.
I have never met the Matador, but will reserve judgement until I have something more than social media to form an impression.
I hope to visit you some time in Kamloops. I will be wearing a mask, don't shoot!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Ged, it is more like a bull going after the red cape. Not only will the cape get yanked away, the guy has a sword behind his back. Ignore the cape!
By the way Ged, I enjoyed the couple of days we spent exploring central Baja. I have a different point of view on a few issues, but I respect you,
and your opinions.
I have never met the Matador, but will reserve judgement until I have something more than social media to form an impression.
I hope to visit you some time in Kamloops. I will be wearing a mask, don't shoot! |
Gary,
As well, I enjoyed your and "Bay Lee's"company.... a good pooch with low internet profile.
While our views differ at times, I trust your integrity.
No shooting risk for you when visiting....masked or not....
Don't believe everything you think....
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Ged,
The annoying hombrecillo is like a yappy little dog. Ignore the wee troll, he is all bark, no bite.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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