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[*] posted on 1-5-2021 at 03:03 PM


god I miss Death Tongue!:lol:
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[*] posted on 1-5-2021 at 03:44 PM


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god I miss Death Tongue!:lol:



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[*] posted on 1-6-2021 at 10:29 AM


If this is the January 1 collision, Sea Shepherd posted video of it on FB - the panga rammed into the Sea Shepherd. It came at it nearly head on, made a hard turn and slammed into broadside.
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[*] posted on 1-6-2021 at 11:36 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
If this is the January 1 collision, Sea Shepherd posted video of it on FB - the panga rammed into the Sea Shepherd. It came at it nearly head on, made a hard turn and slammed into broadside.


It would be like passing a semi, then spinning doughnuts on the highway in front of it to force the truck to stop. Good luck with that!




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[*] posted on 1-6-2021 at 12:01 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55540506

"The man's family allege that his boat was intentionally rammed."


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[*] posted on 1-6-2021 at 12:12 PM


See another look at the collision (from a different angle, with a little more lead time) on a video at the following link:

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https://cadenanoticias.com/regional/2020/12/la-secretaria-de...





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[*] posted on 1-6-2021 at 04:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
See another look at the collision (from a different angle, with a little more lead time) on a video at the following link:

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https://cadenanoticias.com/regional/2020/12/la-secretaria-de...



Seems he miscalculated his doughnut maneuver and the rest is history.
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[*] posted on 1-7-2021 at 07:54 AM


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can you imagine what Texans and Louisianans would say if Sea Shepard was operating in gulf near-shore waters with mexican crew and armed US soldiers to police the shrimp fishing industry? :lol::lol::lol:

how about if european kids on gap year went to Utah to enforce livestock grazing regulations on BLM leased land? :lol::lol::lol:

how about if venezuelan college kids go to georgia this week to be poll observers? :lol::lol::lol::lol:


All those examples bear no resemblance to this situation. Especially the last one, of course. Fish and Game wardens in Texas and Louisiana wouldnt be so derelict in their duties of ENFORCING EXISTING FISHING REGULATIONS, the way Mexico does. Make that DOESNT.

All of this could have been avoided if Mexican fishing authorities weren't so easily corruptible in the past. Simply enforcing existing regulations against illegal netting and the vaquita would probably be much more numerous than they are. And dorado. And marlin. And sardines. And shrimp.

But any person who has fished in Mexico or lived there for any length of time, knows this.

Person who only READ about Mexico from a news consolidator......not so much. :lol:
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[*] posted on 1-7-2021 at 09:21 AM
Hook.... wise words


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can you imagine what Texans and Louisianans would say if Sea Shepard was operating in gulf near-shore waters with mexican crew and armed US soldiers to police the shrimp fishing industry? :lol::lol::lol:

how about if european kids on gap year went to Utah to enforce livestock grazing regulations on BLM leased land? :lol::lol::lol:

how about if venezuelan college kids go to georgia this week to be poll observers? :lol::lol::lol::lol:


All those examples bear no resemblance to this situation. Especially the last one, of course. Fish and Game wardens in Texas and Louisiana wouldnt be so derelict in their duties of ENFORCING EXISTING FISHING REGULATIONS, the way Mexico does. Make that DOESNT.

All of this could have been avoided if Mexican fishing authorities weren't so easily corruptible in the past. Simply enforcing existing regulations against illegal netting and the vaquita would probably be much more numerous than they are. And dorado. And marlin. And sardines. And shrimp.

But any person who has fished in Mexico or lived there for any length of time, knows this.

Person who only READ about Mexico from a news consolidator......not so much. :lol:


Sadly, some on this forum would rather agitate than cogitate.
You are spot on with your observations.
The Mexican gov has no one else to blame but themselves for the destructive elements that they have allowed to corrupt this great natural resource.
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[*] posted on 1-7-2021 at 10:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
i like sea shepard,... but they risk looking bad when it is a crew of mostly middle class europeans and americans on a large armored warship (surplus mine sweeper, funded by hollywood) vs local fishermen in beat up old pangas.

the sea shepard might win more points with locals if their crew was mexicans, eh?

(the sea shepard crew looks like it has many middle class kids on their gap year.)


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[*] posted on 1-7-2021 at 11:59 AM


A perspective;
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/opinion/el-golfo-de-santa-clara-...




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[*] posted on 1-7-2021 at 02:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by elgatoloco  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
See another look at the collision (from a different angle, with a little more lead time) on a video at the following link:

Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  


https://cadenanoticias.com/regional/2020/12/la-secretaria-de...



Seems he miscalculated his doughnut maneuver and the rest is history.
SOS


Looks like the Farley Mowat was cooking along at a pretty good clip too, panga boy kind of blew it with the timing.




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[*] posted on 1-8-2021 at 06:11 AM


Destruction of the fishermen - lives and livelihood.
Time to give up on saving the Vaquita??
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[*] posted on 1-8-2021 at 10:52 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Santiago  
Quote: Originally posted by del mar  
god I miss Death Tongue!:lol:





thanks for sharing that Santiago! remember how fun it was starting your day with Bloom County,Doonesbury, far side and the rest?......boy we could use some of that laughter today huh:no:
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