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[*] posted on 2-22-2021 at 08:40 PM


Read this CDC memo that states, "COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death."

Meaning no positive test of COVID infection required, only assumption, to assign cause of death to covid.

Is this becoming more clear?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-I...

Dr. Annie Bukacek, MD, explains in a clear presentation how Covid death certificates are made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk

CDC 94% of "with Covid deaths" had 2-3 severe under-lying co-morbidities which were the cause of death. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-co...

No increase in excess deaths in USA according to John's Hopkins review of CDC data. Do your own research, pull the data, it's quite clear looking at the data, excess deaths are equal year to year over the last 4-5 years proportionately by demographics, not sure why this good news is upsetting to morbid obsessed Maskers? No evidence of Pandemic by any standards. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/john-hopkins-university-ac...



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[*] posted on 2-22-2021 at 09:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  


Seems technically possible with current media modalities.


Watch this very clear presentation of data by Dr. Annie Bukacek, MD, who explains how Covid death certificates are made and manipulated. It's clear, simple and easy to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk

The "why" is another topic which is also quite clear, notably, called "the Great Reset". Most of us are working to support it but may be unaware.



[Edited on 2-23-2021 by gnukid]
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[*] posted on 2-22-2021 at 11:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  


Seems technically possible with current media modalities.


Watch this very clear presentation of data by Dr. Annie Bukacek, MD, who explains how Covid death certificates are made and manipulated. It's clear, simple and easy to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk

The "why" is another topic which is also quite clear, notably, called "the Great Reset". Most of us are working to support it but may be unaware.

[Edited on 2-23-2021 by gnukid]



Her findings were compiled in an article in the JHU newsletter, penned by Yanni Gu, which has since been removed by the university. In a tweet, JHU stated that the article was deleted, because it “was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic. We regret that this article may have contributed to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.”


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[*] posted on 2-22-2021 at 11:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  


Meaning no positive test of COVID infection required, only assumption, to assign cause of death to covid.

Is this becoming more clear?



What's clear is that you're mentally deranged.
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 12:20 AM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
No evidence of Pandemic by any standards.



Who would be able to pull off this kind of farce, on such a wide scale? I.e. Who is behind this? And why?


Same folks who faked the moon landing, tricked us that the earth is round and have us believe that Elvis is dead.




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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 02:47 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  


Seems technically possible with current media modalities.


Watch this very clear presentation of data by Dr. Annie Bukacek, MD, who explains how Covid death certificates are made and manipulated. It's clear, simple and easy to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk

The "why" is another topic which is also quite clear, notably, called "the Great Reset". Most of us are working to support it but may be unaware.


Dr Annie is an anti-vaxxer, and a white supremacist.

Paul, do you realize you Long ago lost your credibility?




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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 08:37 AM


Goat, you forget , Paul is an anti Vaxer flat earther, homeopathy medicine , blood letting is the cure guy! according tozpaul and his beliefs you cure cancer by drinking blended up cancer tumor milkshakes! so annie makes his panties tingle!
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 09:44 AM


Its fun to be a morbid obsessed unhealthy alcoholic and blame your poor health on a fantom virus that has a death rate of 1:10,000 and of those 94% have 2-3 severe comorbidities, meaning risk of no significance, while the majority of deaths are caused by a long list of other illnesses and poor decisions.

A pandemic disease would have high percentage of deaths, not extremely low as we see with COVID which does not qualify as pandemic, and is acknowledged by Fauci as similar to other years of influenza.

The data provided in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk comes directly from CDC, regardless of your opinion about the authors personal life, they are irrelevant to CDC data and the presentation of those data points.

Note, the same group allude to fallacious logic, personal attacks but do not refute the data points, macro excess deaths are flat year to year. on dates showing spikes of covid deaths, heart disease deaths, cancer, diabetes etc were simply reassigned to COVID while overall deaths are flat.

Ignorance and arrogance as displayed by some here are two traits that certainly lead to high risk behavior and early deaths.
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 09:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  

The data provided in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk comes directly from CDC, regardless of your opinion about the authors personal life, they are irrelevant to CDC data and the presentation of those data points.

Note, the same group allude to fallacious logic, personal attacks but do not refute the data points, macro excess deaths are flat year to year. on dates showing spikes of covid deaths, heart disease deaths, cancer, diabetes etc were simply reassigned to COVID while overall deaths are flat.

Ignorance and arrogance as displayed by some here are two traits that certainly lead to high risk behavior and early deaths.


actually Paul, the data are taken from the CDC - out of context, and are incomplete, cherry picked, and manipulated and massaged trying to prove ones opinion or personal belief.

. If you want to accept those data, great, Go to the CDC, see ALL of the data, read their analysis. If you need help understanding them - let me know. but clearly , right now, you have no concept of what the CDC and their data actually say!
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 10:04 AM


The topic is excess deaths according to CDC, it's not an author personality issue or anything to do with the individuals here, it's noteworthy that these rabid morbid obsessed promoters of catastrophic pandemic and restrictions don't talk abbot justification for their restrictions, they post personal attacks, lies, generalizations and fail to make a logical point using data as has been provided.

The basic point is there is not a significant change in excess deaths OVERALL meaning no pandemic.

There is admission of lack of evidence of infection and simply making an assumption of cause of death with no laboratory results to support the assumption, while ample evidence exist that severe comorbidities are associated with the deaths attrributed to covid, and admission by the so called leaders of pandemic response that the people did not die of covid, they died of pre-existing illnesses and there is no data to support broad distribution of an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine that is not actually a vaccine but is EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPY that has a history of high failure and resulting injury.

Never ever has there been a successful mRNA vaccine and no evidence of success today, nor long term testing.

BUT, go ahead, its your choice to experiment with medicines, much like hippies with home made acid and other high risk drugs popular among drop outs who make up the baby boomer generation resulting in poor cognitive abilities. Peace, Love and Tacos.
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 10:32 AM


in addition to lack of supporting data today, to justify restrictions based on evidence of pandemic, there is the evidence for pre-meditation to create the illusion of pandemic to support the distribution of patented vaccine technology in relation to gain of function of COVID research, culminating in Gates Sponsored Event 201 to simulate COVID pandemic.All of these activities and events occurred BEFORE the first case of COVID was seeded on the ground. Premeditation, foreknowledge, and incentive for profit are all elements of fraud.

https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

So we have evidence of a plan to create a simulation of pandemic, evidence that excess deaths data was amplified by changing the guidelines to incentivize "ASSUMED" cause of death. Evidence for pre-planning profiteering, and evidence of fraud throughout pandemic response decision making, all in support of World Economic Forum's "Great Reset' which is a part of the pre-planned fourth industrial revolution toward robotics, automation, AI, simulations etc.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/07/covid-19-the-great-re...

Denial of the evidence of fraud is a personal choice, but it doesn't make the problem of fraud associated to covid promotion go away.

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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 12:21 PM


Obviously the whole pandemic is just a hoax perpetrated by the PPE lobby who want to get fat rich off a world market. Seems they are doing a pretty good job so far.



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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 04:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  


Meaning no positive test of COVID infection required, only assumption, to assign cause of death to covid.

Is this becoming more clear?



What's clear is that you're mentally deranged.


i couldn't agree more. furthermore, I'd be willing to bet there is more strange stuff going on unrelated to to covid delusions
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 06:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  




.... medicines, much like hippies with home made acid ...


Got that recipe ? ....or is it what contributed to your current recommendations ? :?:




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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 07:08 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  


The basic point is there is not a significant change in excess deaths OVERALL meaning no pandemic.



Here you go, dummy.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/excess-deaths-w...
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 07:32 PM


Anyone unable to review the dataset and see that the overall excess death rate is flat for many years, and that other causes of death are reduced and replaced for covid is lacking critical thinking ability and general cognitive awareness of their surroundings, there are no significant numbers of deaths from covid in any geographic region, nothing different from year to year influenza type illness which is a healthy expression of cleansing of toxicity, clearly stated by Fauci, Birx, CDC et al. No evidence of pandemic causing high percentage of deaths for an infectious disease exists.

While restrictions and pandemic policies have no demonstratable benefit, geographic regions with restrictions versus open regions have no demonstrable difference and those restrcitions are extremely harmful to mental, physical and financial health, especially for children and seniors.

Here you go, dummy.

Mask Conditions Allow Yeast to Thrive
https://www.everydayhealth.com/coronavirus/your-mask-may-be-...


Full-time mask-wearing brings its own set of problems
https://cw.ua.edu/65524/top-stories/full-time-mask-wearing-b...
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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 07:42 PM


Here Moderna clearly states, (as does Gates) that mRNA is software that is an operating system of life, and uses your DNA to modify your DNA, using synthesized mRNA as a programming platform.

https://www.modernatx.com/mrna-technology/mrna-platform-enab...

mRNA is not a vaccine it is a a gene therapy platform, that has never been successful to date and is extremely risky.

Visit CDC VAERS Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System to pull the data of reports, which is a small fraction of the total globally, according to CDC there are thousands of adverse affects and thousands of deaths reported. In less than one month, the amount of adverse affects reports is in nearing 40,000 which is small percentage of the total gloabally.

http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

But, instead of reading the data, listen to senior Nomads who ridicule regular folk who suggest you do your own research and read the report? The only reason I know about this is because I read the data, what is stopping you from reading the data? ITs not a personal attack, its not about personalities, we ae encouraging you to focus on managing your personal health, eat healthy diet, rest, reduce stress, exercise, get sunshine, fresh air and enjoy socializing with family and friends for your health.

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[*] posted on 2-23-2021 at 10:06 PM


mRNA Vaccines do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different...

be wary of self-assured kooks behind keyboards who are desperate to convince others of their bullkaka
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[*] posted on 2-24-2021 at 12:27 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
in addition to lack of supporting data today, to justify restrictions based on evidence of pandemic, there is the evidence for pre-meditation to create the illusion of pandemic to support the distribution of patented vaccine technology in relation to gain of function of COVID research, culminating in Gates Sponsored Event 201 to simulate COVID pandemic.All of these activities and events occurred BEFORE the first case of COVID was seeded on the ground. Premeditation, foreknowledge, and incentive for profit are all elements of fraud.



Gates Sponsored Event 201????? You are truly deranged.

Are you one of those 44% of republicans who believes Gates is using the corona vaccine to implant tracking chips in people?

https://www.sfgate.com/cnet/article/More-than-40-of-Republic...

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[*] posted on 2-24-2021 at 07:42 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  


A pandemic disease would have high percentage of deaths, not extremely low as we see with COVID which does not qualify as pandemic



Remove the masks and let people congregate maskless and you'll have your high numbers. You're comparing apples to oranges. The reason you had high numbers during the Black Death and Spanish Flu is because no precautions were taken. The Black Death was considered to be God's punishment. The remedy was more prayer. The city state of Venice had figured it out and had much fewer cases. Their solution was 40 day quarantine. Quarantine comes from the word cuatro which is 4, as in 40. The Spanish flu was similar in that it was spread by the doughboys in the trenches during WWI where they spent months. Those pandemics ended due yo herd immunity. Ours is controlled by precautions (masks, lockdowns, quarantines, etc) and vaccines.




Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  


Note, the same group allude to fallacious logic, personal attacks but do not refute the data points



On the contrary, I've been refuting your points for weeks. You just ignore them.

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