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[*] posted on 1-13-2021 at 04:29 PM


There's more to it. People wearing masks are getting it (per reports here), so isolation is really the best bet, it would seem. The problem is that we don't live in a bubble and we don't have everything we need produced on our property, as it was on a farm.

Still, nobody in my extended family has gotten it, yet... We range in age from 6 months to 87 years.




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[*] posted on 1-13-2021 at 05:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
There's more to it. People wearing masks are getting it (per reports here),
You do understand that surgical masks are more about protecting others than yourself, right? :light:



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[*] posted on 1-13-2021 at 05:31 PM


Yes... naturally. People (plural) wearing masks not 50% of people in the same room... does no good if the non-wearers are infected.



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[*] posted on 1-13-2021 at 06:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
You do understand that surgical masks are more about protecting others than yourself, right? :light:


Is this why doctors, dentists, and other hospital employees have worn masks forever? To protect me from them?

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not anti-mask. I work in a school where I'm around all sorts of people all day long; I wear one. It's simply an observation that the justification, rationale, and the "goalposts" keep changing over the past 9 months.

[Edited on 1-14-2021 by aburruss]
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[*] posted on 1-13-2021 at 08:22 PM


People who fight against wearing masks are weirdos.

I don't know if they work or not, but it's no big deal to wear one.. The republican party screwed up on this majorly.



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[*] posted on 1-13-2021 at 09:01 PM


Quote: Originally posted by aburruss  
Is this why doctors, dentists, and other hospital employees have worn masks forever? To protect me from them?

That's my understanding. If their principal worry were catching something airborne from you, they'd be wearing gear more effective than a simple surgical mask (i.e. properly fitted N-95 or a powered respirator).

Surgical masks are mostly to prevent droplets and spatter from getting into the wrong place, i.e. open incision during surgery (thus their name) or a dental patient's gaping maw.




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[*] posted on 1-14-2021 at 05:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
People who fight against wearing masks are weirdos.

I don't know if they work or not, but it's no big deal to wear one.. The republican party screwed up on this majorly.


I completely agree!!!

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[*] posted on 1-14-2021 at 04:11 PM
For some of us it is a very big deal!!


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
People who fight against wearing masks are weirdos.

I don't know if they work or not, but it's no big deal to wear one.. The republican party screwed up on this majorly.


I completely agree!!!

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I have profound hearing loss
Big guns in the Navy
Dozen years racing Baja
25 years flying small airplanes.
I cannot hear much, and my hearing aids are long past effective.

It is virtually impossible for me to understand speech through a mask, both because it is muffled and because I cannot see your lips.

Yeah, I wear a mask, where expected.... but don't expect me to respond to your questions or your conversation, cuz I have no clue what you are saying.

And, by the way, California excludes mask requirements for under 2, health issues of certain nature, and those with profound hearing loss.

Yes I wear a mask.... and yes, it is a pretty big deal, sad to say.....
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[*] posted on 1-14-2021 at 05:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
People who fight against wearing masks are weirdos.

I don't know if they work or not, but it's no big deal to wear one.. The republican party screwed up on this majorly.


I completely agree!!!

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I have profound hearing loss
Big guns in the Navy
Dozen years racing Baja
25 years flying small airplanes.
I cannot hear much, and my hearing aids are long past effective.

It is virtually impossible for me to understand speech through a mask, both because it is muffled and because I cannot see your lips.

Yeah, I wear a mask, where expected.... but don't expect me to respond to your questions or your conversation, cuz I have no clue what you are saying.

And, by the way, California excludes mask requirements for under 2, health issues of certain nature, and those with profound hearing loss.

Yes I wear a mask.... and yes, it is a pretty big deal, sad to say.....


I think we all understand there are reasonable exceptions for most rules. Especially for physical/health issues. I work a lot with special ed students. I know a bit about exceptional students. No one begrudges a person's need for allowances so they can reasonably function in society.

Now, an "emotional support" rattlesnake on an aircraft may be going too far. Even for a liberal.

I just think it's wonderful JZ and I agree on this. I know he's just a bit of a provocateur, and likely a good father/husband/friend.

John
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 09:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
You can’t contain a virus like this. It was inevitable.

Close up until you can deal with it. Then open back up.

Life must go on. Take all the safety steps you can.





wait - you mean lock down to control the spread? seriously?
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 09:53 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
People get colds and flu every year, this year there is no cold or flu, just covid?


grow up - educate yourself! Your personal agenda has long ago proven to be complete BS and ignorance. This thing has killed 350000 people This year, its on track to be the #1 cause of death in the USA, and you keep spouting unicorn farts zabout it not being a virus and its a hoax etc etc etc etc.

Lets be a big boy and face facts - and do whatever we can to help combat the spread
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 09:59 AM


And once and for all - can we all agree the marooons wearing ther mask with their nose sticking out are part of the problem here! If you are unclear on the proper wearing of a mask, you probably ought not to be allowed in public - you obviously don't have the mental aquity required to be out without your attendant!
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 10:51 AM


The biggest difference in town is the silence. Normally these people party all night on Fridays and Saturdays. The music is piped in through loudspeakers that ends past 3am. There is none of that any more in Asuncion. My neighbor usually has 5-6 grandchildren running around round the clock with mothers dropping by to deliver or pick them. Now the two live alone in a silent home. People just don't visit one another any more.

However, the land is still the same. The ocean is calm and friendly. And the morning sunrises are as welcome as always.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 11:12 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
The biggest difference in town is the silence. Normally these people party all night on Fridays and Saturdays. The music is piped in through loudspeakers that ends past 3am.


There is also a volunteer, mobile "Boom Box" service to deliver music to those who do not live near a loudspeaker!

Sorry to hear about the outbreak, I wonder how for out vaccinations are for some of the smaller Baja communities?




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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 11:18 AM


Public service announcements on radio, tv, and internet as well as painted walls and billboards in public places, are prevalent in Mexico. Municipal buildings have graphic posters showing the progressive benefits of mask wearing, (ie: no mask on two people, one mask two people..... both masked, then 1 meter distancing.....with percentages of becoming infected, from 95% to 0%.
Very descriptive and effective constant reminders keep attention focused on prevention, and in the end most people adapt and comply as a daily necessity, like putting on your hat when leaving the house.

I'm sure Joe has something planned in the form of public service announcements, surely could have helped if started 8 months ago.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 01:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
The biggest difference in town is the silence. Normally these people party all night on Fridays and Saturdays. The music is piped in through loudspeakers that ends past 3am.


Sorry to hear about the outbreak, I wonder how for out vaccinations are for some of the smaller Baja communities?


Pfizer is being administered in Tijuana but it's out of the question here. The locals tell me that they're expecting to use China's vaccine with it's availability coming in April. When you think about it a cold storage facility could be set up in Guerrero Negro and all the surrounding villagers could drive to get vaccinated. Although that still wouldn't guarantee 100% inoculation because there are some without transportation. The China vaccine is supposed to be 70% effective so it's not the best. Realistically, I don't see Asuncion being vaccinated by April.

Perhaps gnukid has some solutions. Camomile tea? A bowel purge? :lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 02:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
People get colds and flu every year, this year there is no cold or flu, just covid?


grow up - educate yourself! Your personal agenda has long ago proven to be complete BS and ignorance. This thing has killed 350000 people This year, its on track to be the #1 cause of death in the USA, and you keep spouting unicorn farts zabout it not being a virus and its a hoax etc etc etc etc.

Lets be a big boy and face facts - and do whatever we can to help combat the spread


well said caj. i couldn't agree more.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 06:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by caj13  


grow up - educate yourself! Your personal agenda has long ago proven to be complete BS and ignorance. This thing has killed 350000 people.


Correction: it has killed over 2 million people. The US and Americans are not the center of the universe. Let's not dismiss the rest of the planet.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 08:23 PM


Ignorant fools

no evidence COVID has caused death of anyone

simply reclassified pre-existing illness as covid

read the data, practically zero people die of covid

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm


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[*] posted on 1-15-2021 at 08:28 PM


Here's the reality, a nursing home where no died from COVID

80% were vaccinated, more than 10% died within 2 weeks of covid

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2021/01/covid-19-outbre...
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