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[*] posted on 4-24-2021 at 09:46 AM


DK, Can you post the KMZ with the track?
Or email it tome
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[*] posted on 4-24-2021 at 09:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
DK, Can you post the KMZ with the track?
Or email it tome
Thanks


pjpvi posted it in this thread, above... I got it from there:

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... and here is my track from the days hike. I had it set to log every 5 minutes.

I really wasn't sure I was on the El Camino Real trail until I got into the rocks of the mountain then it was very clear.

Attachment: Oasis hike.kml (223kB)



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[*] posted on 4-24-2021 at 10:36 AM


Now I cannot find the Coordinates for the mission
Can you help?
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[*] posted on 4-24-2021 at 12:00 PM


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Now I cannot find the Coordinates for the mission
Can you help?


Every mission's GPS is in my book as well as on my website.
If you don't have my book, your many contributions to Baja exploration has earned you one (u2ume your mailing address)!

Online at VivaBaja.com it is in the Spanish Missions section, part 4. Here is the direct link: http://vivabaja.com/missions4/




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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 11:35 AM


Has anyone here made it to the largest pool this year? PJPVI's track gets close but seems like he didn't quite get to the big pool. I did a similar hike in 2019 and ran out of daylight before we could get there.

I'm hoping to do this as an overnight in a couple of weeks and want to know if there's much water left there after the relatively dry year we've had.

Scott

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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 01:15 PM


the big pool always has water

the only way to safely reach it is by leaving first light from however far you can drive

the "road" in from Santa Ynes is so chewed up by idiot drivers that I decided a couple of weeks ago right before Widowmaker not to continue.
I have rarely ever turned around.
We had a Ranger with only rear lockers and decided that this was no longer consumer grade driving.
Advertising the chit out of this place has definitely taken its toll



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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 01:29 PM


Thanks Harald
I value your effort to deal with the tracks.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 02:05 PM


I rode it on my moto two years ago and it was a crazy climb back out, the kind where you don't want to make a mistake. I wouldn't drive anything in there that wasn't locked front and rear with some serious ground clearance. I would do it in my scrambler on 37's and 1 ton's but not in anything near stock or much smaller.
Not an easy place to get help or recovered from.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 02:12 PM
Nomads at The Widowmaker and The Bog, 2010 (HB Murphy videos)


Yes, but bad roads bring good people!

Our epic 2010 trip to Mission Santa María on video.

Three Tacomas, one 4Runner, one Dakota, and a 4x4 motorhome!

Video one is coming down the Widowmaker in the lead Tacoma.

Video two is my Tacoma followed by the rest of the gang, coming down the Widowmaker.

Video three is the first Tacoma going through the bog (be sure to have the volume up, as Zoom in the lead Tacoma is quite funny).

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw44OnITtRc
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slqyAwt6CP8
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBvjeiwTN48




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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 04:45 PM


David,
10 years ago the road was easy
not any more




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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 05:57 PM


It has been a tough grade since my first time in 1999 when I gave it the name Widowmaker, after Mur and I both were tossed from our rides and spilled blood on the rocks!

The deep water in the bog was the worst part of our 2010 trip. My 2003 and 2007 trips were pretty easy with the Widowmaker being the toughest part as the water was shallow or below the sand on those trips.

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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 06:38 PM


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…bad roads bring good people!


Nonsense.




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[*] posted on 5-18-2021 at 06:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
…bad roads bring good people!


Nonsense.


The correct quotation is "Bad roads bring good people, and an occasional goat!"




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[*] posted on 5-19-2021 at 12:01 AM


advertising bad roads brings destruction



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[*] posted on 5-19-2021 at 06:14 AM


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advertising bad roads brings destruction


These days no one can have an “adventure” without posting their trip video online in a pathetic quest for “likes.” That’s why land owners put in gates/fences. Sounds like this area needs a good barrier to keep out the wanna-bes and lemmings.





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[*] posted on 5-19-2021 at 07:23 AM


since the Mexican have discovered internet advertising lotsa people are going.too bad gates are killing it for all of
us.




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[*] posted on 5-20-2021 at 05:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slqyAwt6CP8

Neat seeing that large campervan make it! Now I'm thinking I can do it in my van!






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[*] posted on 5-20-2021 at 08:27 PM


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since the Mexican have discovered internet advertising lotsa people are going.too bad gates are killing it for all of
us.


The gates are not the problem. People are the problem.

Gates only appear after people become a problem. Fix the people and gates won’t be necessary.

Big convoys of 4WDs driving irresponsibly (and often drinking) turns off landowners.

Tear up the land, leave trash, talk trash — results in gates.




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[*] posted on 5-21-2021 at 06:47 AM


That is a cool picture but not at all what it looks like now, there are steps in the 3 foot plus size going back up now. Driving out a d parking before this hill and hiking would not be bad at all.
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[*] posted on 5-21-2021 at 06:59 AM


If it was easy then it wouldn't be called "Widowmaker"!

Geoffff, more photos in this trip page http://vivabaja.com/msm2010/
and in the big Nomad trip report from May 2010.




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