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motoged
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Electric Future ... or not
Just watched this informative and entertaining video on debate on electric vehicles...
Take 12.5 minutes ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vh9qnEl4OY&feature=youtu.be
Don't believe everything you think....
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JZ
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Didn't watch the video yet, but I'll give you my pre-watching opinion.
I love when I hear the gas kicking in on the furnace. Couldn't imagine cooking on electric.
A mix of energy sources is best. Wind, solar, fosil, nuke.
The extremes of society pushing too hard for one or the another are bad, I think.
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motoged
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Watch the video....you might learn something...
I wasn't asking your opinion.....but it doesn't surprise me.
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pacificobob
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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  | Watch the video....you might learn something...
I wasn't asking your opinion.....but it doesn't surprise me. |
no surprise for me either.
great video. the continued use of fossil fuel has no logical defense other than preserving the wealth of the share holders.
germany plans to go all renewable by 2030....lets hope US leadership makes some smart moves.
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Porsche's EV fuel will be as carbon neutral from oil well to exhaust pipe tip as EV cars will be from minerals in the ground to volts into a car
motor.
Es Todo Bueno
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Video is funny for sure.
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sadly a lot of informative, educational media has to include components of humor, and brief distractions to overcome the limited attention spans of
contemporary audiences .
AKA "dumbing down" to make the messages more "accessible "
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Not all oil fields and refineries are the same. I worked as a support carpenter at Prudhoe Bay in the mid 80s, and was impressed with the safety and
environmental concerns that were in place even then.
The main complaint I hear from the people who live near the three major refineries (Keni, North Pole, Valdez) is that they pay too much for a local
product!
No pumps in this video, the field is pressurized to bring the crude up to the surface https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=oil+refineries+in+alask...
By the way, Alaska has more coal than oil. I hope the great strides will be made in cleaning up that industry, wind and solar are practically useless
for much of the year in the northern latitudes!
That was a fun video though!
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pacificobob
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i think hydrogen has huge untapped potential.
of course those who have a vested interest in petroleum will delay development of these options.
witness those marooons who blame the power problems in Texas on frozen wind generators.
alternative energy is such an opportunity for the US to do what it does best...
innovative and develop new technologies.
what a shame to allow the oil/coal owners to call the shots.
furthering this silly chite, is convincing those with no financial interest in fossil fuel to resist new technology.
[Edited on 2-24-2021 by pacificobob]
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A refreshing, if somewhat amateurish video. Maybe if all the cars were electric we could see the stars again.
The main issue with electric vehicles is that gas is just incredibly cheap, for the amount of energy it releases. I was at the gas station and some
guy was complaining about how expensive gas was in California. The price was about 3 dollars a gallon. I was thinking, 3 bucks a gallon is nothing.
A gallon of water costs a dollar, and water falls out of the sky for free.
[Edited on 2-24-2021 by bajaric]
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A gallon of gas, or a latte at Starbucks? Make mine gas, I can make my own damn coffee if I need to, but try brewing up a jug high octane!
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | A refreshing, if somewhat amateurish video. Maybe if all the cars were electric we could see the stars again.
The main issue with electric vehicles is that gas is just incredibly cheap, for the amount of energy it releases. |
I think the video refutes the notion of "cost" of that effectiveness.
What is interesting is that the video was produced in Alberta (our version of Texas in so many [unfortunate] ways) ....a petro-dependent province.
Probably not a generally popular view in that culture.
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Possibilities of hydrogen
| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
Yeah... going renewable would imply some seriously long-term storage (i.e. months).
I'm surprised the U.S. isn't investing more heavily in hydrogen technologies; seems like it might be an option for seasonal energy storage.
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This could be a game changer in creating the vehicles, and infrastructure necessary to make the change!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/sweden-will-soon-be-hom...
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pacificobob
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ya, but what about all the resulting cancer cases caused by green energy?
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motoged
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= sarcasm 
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pacificobob
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thanks ged...i should have used the sarcasm emoji
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Welcome to the club! My one-liners and other attempts at humor frequently bomb. I guess I should use more emojis, like  !
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pacificobob
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heck..there are a million ways for
miscommunication verbally....in print , even more
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more on the hydrogen debate, its not over yet, from the ASO.....
"The Dakar has always been an open laboratory and we have decided within the ASO to go forward towards alternative motorization.
It means that as of today, the Dakar will slowly but surely move towards hydrogen. The idea for us that in 2030, we’ll only have hydrogen-fueled
vehicles, and I mean by that for cars and trucks.
For that, there will be a transition period: the first phase will be in 2026 when all the elite cars and trucks will be concerned. Then, it will be
all vehicles for 2030."
sooooo.....Robby Gordon bet get crackin'!
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95% of hydrogen production is from fossil fuels!
I don't know how you feel about Wikipedia, but here is the link; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production
I was a seasonal employee for the weather service one construction season, and worked on, and around the electrolysis units that generated hydrogen
for launching weather balloons. The stuff can be dangerous, think of the Hindenburg (Oh the humanity!)!
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