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gnukid
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Druthers, a Canadian newspaper, has done a series of articles on Covid pandemic fraud.
View the March edition of Druthers https://druthers.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/DRUTHERS-202...
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John Harper
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Here's another viewpoint on Druthers.
https://www.antihate.ca/new_covid_conspiracy_newspaper_extre...
Have you ever thought of taking up stamp collecting? Persuasive discourse is not your core competency.
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Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  | ...there are no more Pfizer or Moderna vaccines being purchased or transported and those that were are no longer destined for regions away from the
border for example to BCS...
The requirement for extreme cold storage, costs and transport proved to be difficult...
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And that alone is the reason. They've been planning it the current way since December at least - knowing they don't have the facilities to handle the
ultra-cold refrigeration.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=95527
 
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gnukid
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Mexico will continue using AstraZeneca vaccine despite thrombosis cases
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/mexico-will-continue-using-...
"...the government also has an agreement to purchase more than 40 million AstraZeneca doses that will be manufactured in Argentina and bottled here."
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So many of the sources cited in many of these posts lack credibility - many of them known as sources of false and/or highly misleading claims - much
of which appears to be politically motivated (USA politics). Hard to really attach credibility to anyone believing these claims - or using them to
make a case for anything to anyone else. Hard to find them relevant for a Baja California Mexico forum when they appear to be highly driven by
association to USA political motivations. Just sayin'. 
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Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate claimed misconduct
by government officials.
...JW has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Watch
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Yep. No surprises here!
The AstraZeneca vaccine is cheaper and only requires normal refrigeration.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
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It is not just the corona virus you have to pay attention to!
I recently helped out a former relative by marriage, so she will be doing some house keeping for a while to return the favor. She showed up sneezing
and coughing, and saying it must be allergies!
With fresh snow still on the ground, I think we can rule out pollen and mold, but not the common cold! I am three days away from my
second vaccination, and I don't think they would give it to me if I show up sick!
Even if they would give me the vaccination, I still don't want a cold! My house cleaning can wait, I sent her home, hopefully before she passed it on
to me!
[Edited on 3-14-2021 by AKgringo]
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | I recently helped out a former relative by marriage, so she will be doing some house keeping for a while to return the favor. She showed up sneezing
and coughing, and saying it must be allergies!
With fresh snow still on the ground, I think we can rule out pollen and mold, but not the common cold! I am three days away from my
second vaccination, and I don't think they would give it to me if I show up sick!
Even if they would give me the vaccination, I still don't want a cold! My house cleaning can wait, I sent her home, hopefully before she passed it on
to me! |
Perhaps a reason she should maybe have worn a mask? Good old "common courtesy?" Not so common anymore, sadly.
And also because we all hopefully realize by now how easily transmitted some viruses (Common cold, flu, Covid) really are. Maybe the Asian countries
are on to something with mask wearing a common social norm.
Good luck.
John
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I can not understand the lack of respect for other individuals. whether you believe in masks or not, whats the harm in acknowledging you are aware
of other peoples concerns and fears, and demonstrating you are in this fight along with them. wear the mask PROPERLY - its not that hard - mouth
AND nose - seriously!
I've got both my doses, according to the CDC i'm good to go in closed spaces with unmasked people - but how do other people know that?
whenever i go into the store, or anywhere else people are - I wear a mask - it's the least I can do to show other people I respect them and care
about their health. its not that freaking hard!
The other thing is - Idiots pretty much self identify - right!
so seriously - is the nose out thing some sort of the user not understanding the dificult instructions in wearing such mask? or is it their
attempt to demonstrate how MAGALOSER they are?
One really funny trend here in central Cal - a bunch of idiots decided they would use the "i'm eating" defence as they wheeled around costco with
their drink in their hand -mask down, sipping occasionlly - what a bunch of boobs!
Costco - it took em about 2 days to stomp that crap down - - now - no eating or drinking in the store - ah crud, I guess the nose out crew needs
to come up with another creative work around
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | I can not understand the lack of respect for other individuals. whether you believe in masks or not, whats the harm in acknowledging you are aware
of other peoples concerns and fears, and demonstrating you are in this fight along with them. wear the mask PROPERLY - its not that hard - mouth
AND nose - seriously!
I've got both my doses, according to the CDC i'm good to go in closed spaces with unmasked people - but how do other people know that?
whenever i go into the store, or anywhere else people are - I wear a mask - it's the least I can do to show other people I respect them and care
about their health. its not that freaking hard!
The other thing is - Idiots pretty much self identify - right!
so seriously - is the nose out thing some sort of the user not understanding the dificult instructions in wearing such mask? or is it their
attempt to demonstrate how MAGALOSER they are?
One really funny trend here in central Cal - a bunch of idiots decided they would use the "i'm eating" defence as they wheeled around costco with
their drink in their hand -mask down, sipping occasionlly - what a bunch of boobs!
Costco - it took em about 2 days to stomp that crap down - - now - no eating or drinking in the store - ah crud, I guess the nose out crew needs
to come up with another creative work around
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Blame the idiotic trump admin that declared covid and public health a commie fakery.
Blame the GOP lemmings that blindly follow trump’s idiocy.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Here’s what the CDC says! These are tested admissions for COVID. Black is overall, Red is 65+ note when it starts to turn down!
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad |
So many of the sources cited in many of these posts lack credibility - many of them known as sources of false and/or highly misleading claims - much
of which appears to be politically motivated (USA politics). Hard to really attach credibility to anyone believing these claims - or using them to
make a case for anything to anyone else. Hard to find them relevant for a Baja California Mexico forum when they appear to be highly driven by
association to USA political motivations. Just sayin'.
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I have always provided a broad range of sources, none of which are discredited or lack credibility.
Today, I shared recent news adding to the narrative, from major sources and the moderator removed those, which shows a bias, having nothing to do with
sources, including, Newsweek, MSN, CFR, and Judicial Watch?
There is huge amount of information available to consider, covering covid, with more being revealed each day, prompting local , state, and federal
investigations, based on FOIAs, internal whistleblowers, to admit incentivization of amplification of cases to promote a pandemic and rush untested
vaccines, that caused harm.
This is not a topic worthy of personal attacks, personal insults, and unsubstantiated claims. If posters have a point, make it and provide sources and
let readers decide if they want to read it and join in thoughtful discussion with sources.
'Resign, Mr. Cuomo': New York Paper That Endorsed Governor Three Times Turns on Him
https://www.newsweek.com/resign-mr-cuomo-new-york-paper-that...
Cuomo and elderly deaths: Public missteps mounting
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cuomo-and-elderly-deaths-p...
Cuomo Rebuked By His Own Party As Entire Democratic Faction Removes His Emergency Powers
https://www.newsweek.com/cuomo-rebuked-his-own-party-entire-...
Andrew Cuomo Under Siege as Democrats Revolt Amid Reports of Federal Probe
https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-cuomo-under-siege-democrats-...
Andrew Cuomo's Aide Says Office Kept Nursing Home Deaths Under Wraps to Avoid Giving Trump Ammunition
https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-cuomos-aide-says-office-kept...
The WHO and China: Dereliction of Duty
https://www.cfr.org/blog/who-and-china-dereliction-duty
Judicial Watch Sues CDC for Communications with Big Tech on COVID-19
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/cdc-communicati...
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Baja north and south survive on tourism, as does much of Mexico. Vaccinating Americans helps the Mexican economy directly. Anti-vaccers are found on
both sides of US politics. All of them are wrong!
The fact is there are a lot of tourists in Baja. There are lots of people building houses in the Todos Santos-Los Cabos area. Mexico is generally a
wonderful place with a terrible reputation sometimes deserved and sometimes not! Politics flows both ways access the border! The US could survive
without Mexico as a trading partner. The same can't be said for Mexico! Baja’s prosperity is tied to the US and is affected by our politics!
This means that US politics affects a place we all claim to be interested in! Politics in the US is going to get worse and might not get better soon
or ever!
The Manager here seems to be Liberal, a number of those who support this site seem to be Conservative. Saying that almost a million people were
vaccinated on inauguration day and if the Feds hadn't bought 100s of million doses of unproven vaccines last spring we wouldn’t have them now
shouldn't be political but it is!
That’s the dilemma and there’s blame enough to go around!
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Vaccination is not an all or none proposition. Evaluating a proposed experimental vaccine is not antivax, it is a normal, reasonable approach to
evaluate risk versus reward for overall health.
The goal is for everyone to be healthy. The path to achieve health is personal, each person will make their decisions and commit to action about diet,
exercise, and rest, based on the information and experience they have.
It is not the role of government to restrict individual freedom of liberty and mobility or require masks, toxic sanitizers or force medication for
healthy people.
Not all medicine is created equal. Typically vaccinations take 10-20 years to develop and test. Never before this year has there been a successful
mRNA vaccine, previous attempts testing on animals showed some good results and later negative results and early deaths.
Influenza has had a diminishing impact year to year from the 1900s to today, with CDC reporting actual excess deaths associated with influenza are
less than 1000 (after initially reporting many thousands) in the USA, in 2004, for example, after thorough analysis, which has been shared here.
While influenza deaths have diminished overtime, influenza vaccines injuries have increased overtime, resulting in hundreds of thousands of influenza
adverse effects in the USA each year, yet, no demonstrable proof of efficacy?
https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
CDC, WHO admit that they greatly exaggerated COVID cases and deaths by radically simplifying guidelines while financially incentivizing categorizing
cases and deaths, such that no positive test nor symptoms were required to assign covid to cases and deaths.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/cdc-director-agrees-that-...
On inauguration day, those covid guidelines were changed to require symptoms and reduced cycle count of PCR RT test which greatly reduced cases and
deaths.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/experts-us-covid-19...
CDC issued notice that of those initial reports more than %96 of deaths were not from covid, they were underlying severe illnesses, often of patients
in hospice, or those who died in an accident, etc.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/94-of-americans-who-died-from-...
In the USA, due to these vague guidelines, there are more positive COVID cases in the state of OHIO than in the entire country of China, Russia,
Korea, for example.
https://time.com/5850680/u-s-response-covid-19-worse-than-ch...
Today, no scientifically demonstrable isolated unique externally airborne contagious virus called SARS2 NCOV19 exists that is flying through the air
that will infect you, causing millions of infections and hundreds of thousands of deaths in the USA.
What is irefered to COVID is common human RNA identified as a contagion, the pandemic narrative was created, pushed through collusion of mass media,
social media WHO, CDC, WEF, Fauci and Gates with premeditation, foreknowledge, motive and means to promote distribution and sale of mRNA "gene
therapy" software platform vaccines without thorough testing nor evaluation.
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3925/rr-2
https://digital.nhs.uk/about-nhs-digital/contact-us/freedom-...
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-scie...
Associated restrictions, codified state and federal executive orders also caused significant amplification of harm to seniors, through isolation in
nursing homes lacking proper care as is now well reported, in the case of Cuomo, Whitmer, Pritzker, Newsom, etc.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cuomo-and-elderly-deaths-p...
Majority of people who cared for themselves at home recovered while those who were intubated in hospital predominantly died.
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/at-86-9-death-r...
Still today, no mRNA vaccine has been approved formally, those gene therapy products are approved for "experimental emergency use", with no long term
testing nor testing on high risk demographics.
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRNA%20vaccine%20review%...
Traditional influenza vaccines use a mix of previous years viral expression along with adjuvants to provoke an antibody reaction, which the body would
naturally do anyway. There is no proof that that the mixture of previous years viral expression is the same as this years influenza, likely it's not,
its a crapshoot theory, that has significant negative outcomes from adverse reactions to arm injuries to paralysis, and deaths.
mRNA SARS2 NCOV19 vaccines are not vaccines, that theoretically work by using snippets of a virus’s genetic material (instead an inactivated or
weakened form of the virus itself) to tell the body to super produce the proteins that trigger the body’s protective immune response.
https://www.drugs.com/history/mrna-1273.html
So, why would there be a rush to distribute a non tested, never before used gene therapy mRNA technology for experimental emergency use to super
produce the proteins that supposedly provoke flulike illness with widespread distribution on a population that is healthy, and those that have the flu
recover %99.9 on average which is within the same range year to year, while many other illnesses cause more deaths?
While these mRNA vaccines aren't actually vaccines and don't protect you from being infected nor from transmission, supposedly?
https://drtrozzi.com/2021/01/this-is-not-a-vaccine/
And those that at high risk from influenza are at high risk from infection and of adverse effect from experimental injections?
In the short term testing of the mRNA vaccine candidates practically all participants experienced severe reactions.
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-b...
There is more for to learn about long term use, for example, anti-biotics were thought to be miracles, but over-time their use has prompted
super-bugs, like super-MRSA, that are immune to antibiotics, such that antibiotics are a double edged sword whose use is discouraged. Entering a
typical hospital that treats infections with antibiotics is among the most high risk activities resulting in cause of deaths.
https://www.staph-infection-resources.com/info/superbugs/
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/before-surgery-...
Do your own research into what is a MRNA vaccine, what is a virus, is viral infection an external contagion or internal expression of cellular
cleansing or cellular detoxification.
https://lbry.tv/Stefano---Tom-2-25-21:8a23013f025bc0e1e5c496...
Research Louis Pasteur versus Antoine Bechamp, viral theory versus human terrain theory or exosomes versus viruses.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/notes-from-yester...
It is well admitted that PCR RT is not a test for specificity of unique SARS2 NCOV19 virus, clearly stated by its creator Cary Mullis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza1j2_WqBk&feature=yout...
CDC, WHO etc, agree PCR RT is not a test for isolated virus resulting in large numbers of false COVID19 positives, meaning it is not a test for SARS2
NCOV19, yet,was used to amplify case numbers to justify need for a "vaccine", just as was done previously by Fauci, with AZT along with his "c-cktail
of drugs that was extremely toxic, unjustified and caused significant harm.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/fauci-fun-facts-dr-...
https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/anthony-fauci-40-years-of-lie...
Accept that Fauci promoted the acceptance that HIV caused AIDS and the use of PCR RT to diagnose AIDS, which was a fraud. There is no test for AIDS,
nor a direct casual relationship of HIV to AIDS.
https://principia-scientific.com/dr-fauci-40-years-of-lies-f...
mRNA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna inject synthesized mRNA like a software programming platform to supposedly prompt the body to super produce
something claimed to be SARS2 NCOV19 proteins to prompt the body to be better able to respond. BUT, humans already had %99.9 recovery on average?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/09/28/new-cdc-c...
Issues of note:
Amplification and incentivization of numbers cases and deaths resulting in exaggeration of risk.
Preplanned promotion of pandemic in collusion with media, CDC, WHO, to promote distribution of mRNA vaccines.
Lack of justification for altering way of life, causing significant economic, physical and mental harm, resulting in amplified early deaths in
seniors, and significant hardship.
Close of small business while big box stores remain open, closure of religious facilities, restriction to personal liberty, mobility, freedom of
speech.
Broad expansion of power of government over personal health with no justification nor demonstrable proof of relationship of efficacy of executive
orders to impact risk, nor proof of actual risk from social engagement, mobility, human interaction, nor proof that face masks and hand sanitizer is
justified or beneficial.
There are basic health questions about the existence of viral covid contagion, versus a natural expression of cellular cleansing and detoxification.
https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf
https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/the-virus-is-a-concept-th...
What are the risks of mandated restrictions and mRNA platform products?
Where is the justification of risk versus reward?
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"I ain't got nobody
Nobody cares for me, nobody
Nobody cares for me
I'm so sad and lonely
Sad and lonely, sad and lonely"
-gnukid
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I had two doses of the mRNA vaccine and i still don’t like Bill Gates or Joe Biden!
I asked Goat this question, “Who do you buy tires for your car from?” He didn’t answer, you probably wont either!
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | "I ain't got nobody
Nobody cares for me, nobody
Nobody cares for me
I'm so sad and lonely
Sad and lonely, sad and lonely"
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i wonder if in the alternative reality of gnuboy mind people actually read the plethora of bull sheet links he posts.
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If you're not allowed to question it, then it's not science.
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That doesn't make any sense to me....peer reviews in the scientific community include questions.
I rarely skim over your posts as I have a life beyond this conversation.....do you?
How do you find time to fix all those rusted out motors?
Don't believe everything you think....
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Just remember that Professor Langley was the “Expert”, The Wright Bros were just, “fringe bicycle mechanics“!
“Science” is littered with the corpses of “Experts”!
Most recently, SpaceX has eaten everyone’s lunch and compared to NASA he’s a “Bicycle Mechanic”! Outrageous Claims require outrageous proofs!
The Wrights and Musk both have supplied proof a plenty!
I still want to know where the conspiracy theorists buy their tires though!
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