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Mexico passes bill to legalize recreational marijuana
This article in today's NY Times reports that the Chamber of Deputies has passed the bill by a fairly wide margin. It still needs to go through
the Senate before it arrives on AMLO's desk. He has already signaled his support for the measure.
The article goes on to explain that the bill is fairly divisive in Mexico, with nearly 2/3 of the population opposing it.
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Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  | This article in today's NY Times reports that the Chamber of Deputies has passed the bill by a fairly wide margin. It still needs to go through
the Senate before it arrives on AMLO's desk. He has already signaled his support for the measure.
The article goes on to explain that the bill is fairly divisive in Mexico, with nearly 2/3 of the population opposing it. |
YAY! Fingers crossed it becomes the law of the land.
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Here in California, the legalization has resulted in many unlicensed stores in my area. They operate illegally (unlicensed) and likely are selling
illegal (untaxed) weed.
Cops don’t seem to be too vigilant about closing down the illegal pot shops.
If the shops sell weed illegally, I suspect they same proprietors also are selling meth, heroin, or whatever els makes a buck.
I would not encourage Mexico to legalize, as experience in USA it does not seem to be beneficial.
[Edited on 3-11-2021 by mtgoat666]
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Here in California, the legalization has resulted in many unlicensed stores in my area. They operate illegally (unlicensed) and likely are selling
illegal (untaxed) weed.
Cops don’t seem to be too vigilant about closing down the illegal pot shops.
If the shops sell weed illegally, I suspect they same proprietors also are selling meth, heroin, or whatever els makes a buck.
I would not encourage Mexico to legalize, as experience in USA it does not seem to be beneficial.
[Edited on 3-11-2021 by mtgoat666] |
Were it not legal in CA would not all sales in CA then be illegal?
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with billions in revenue states will be reluctant to change. likely more profitable than privately owned prisons built to incarcerate unfortunate
users.
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Yes, we all know how well Prohibition worked to enrich Al Capone and organized crime. Let's just keep doing the same thing that has never worked.
Like tax cuts for the wealthy creating a booming economy. Wishful thinking is rarely a proven road to success.
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Oh my gosh...I expect this is the end of Mexico - just like what happened to California. The law changed, tax revenue increased, product was
regulated, and people stopped being arrested and incarcerated over something that seems relatively safe. Life continued on....the sky didn’t fall.
Now we can move on to changing the other 1000 stupid and ancient laws that go against human nature and well being.
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And I wish I could really enjoy weed - but it tends to make me anxious these days rather than relaxed and creative as it did in my early 20’s.
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Here in cali most pot growing and retail sales occurs outside of the licensing system, so most grows and sales are black market. The tax revenue is
not collected. Organized crime is still the name of the game. Cops mostly ignore the illegal black market. Failure in cali...
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The reported legal crop in California has been roughly 10% of what the state estimated it would be. So far, the revenues generated do not pay the
overhead of the new department that regulates the industry.
The property owner next to me doesn't even mess with sales in California, because the prices are better in other states!
By the way, even if it is legal to use cannabis in Mexico, it may still be illegal to transport it!
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Here in cali most pot growing and retail sales occurs outside of the licensing system, so most grows and sales are black market. The tax revenue is
not collected. Organized crime is still the name of the game. Cops mostly ignore the illegal black market. Failure in cali... |
The only failure was in a confused implementation, different cities having different regulations, etc. The lack of access to credit markets keeps it
a "cash only" business, which is ripe for exploitation and criminal activity.
Blame your legislators for doing a crappy job of "legalizing" pot.
John
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some states, Alaska for example are charging very high tax on retail weed products. this will only encourage the black market. if a bottle of
ordinary liquor was to
cost $100, i might consider a purchase from a bootlegger.
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Last night there was Another shootout at an illegal pot shop in casa de oro neighborhood of San Diego.
County sheriff wont shut down the illegal pot shops in unincorporated county, they operate in open, anyone can see the illegal shops in spring valley.
the inactivity by the sheriff is because the cops are either stupid or are on the payroll of the illegal pot shops. I don’t think they are stupid.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Last night there was Another shootout at an illegal pot shop in casa de oro neighborhood of San Diego.
County sheriff wont shut down the illegal pot shops in unincorporated county, they operate in open, anyone can see the illegal shops in spring valley.
the inactivity by the sheriff is because the cops are either stupid or are on the payroll of the illegal pot shops. I don’t think they are stupid.
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Wow, from legalizing marijuana in Mexico to San Diego cops on the payroll of the cartels/pot shops? What a slippery slope!
And I thought nutty conspiracy theories were the domain of delusional Trumpists.
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | some states, Alaska for example are charging very high tax on retail weed products. this will only encourage the black market. if a bottle of
ordinary liquor was to
cost $100, i might consider a purchase from a bootlegger. |
Yes, not pricing marijuana to market is an invitation to black market suppliers. Obviously, marijuana has a very elastic demand curve. Price
increases result in alternative supply sources. Economics 101.
They should drive out black market supply by lowering the price, not taxing it out of a competitive range.
John
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Last night there was Another shootout at an illegal pot shop in casa de oro neighborhood of San Diego.
County sheriff wont shut down the illegal pot shops in unincorporated county, they operate in open, anyone can see the illegal shops in spring valley.
the inactivity by the sheriff is because the cops are either stupid or are on the payroll of the illegal pot shops. I don’t think they are stupid.
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Wow, from legalizing marijuana in Mexico to San Diego cops on the payroll of the cartels/pot shops? What a slippery slope!
And I thought nutty conspiracy theories were the domain of delusional Trumpists.
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Just last year one of the crooked San Diego sherriffs got caught. On of the senior cops in Rancho San Diego was doing many hundreds of illegal gun
sales with local politically-connected jeweler Leo hamel. The cop got a minor slap on the wrist, the jeweler got no significant punishment. Crooked
cops know that they can get away with stuff in San Diego!
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Just last year one of the crooked San Diego sherriffs got caught. On of the senior cops in Rancho San Diego was doing many hundreds of illegal gun
sales with local politically-connected jeweler Leo hamel. The cop got a minor slap on the wrist, the jeweler got no significant punishment. Crooked
cops know that they can get away with stuff in San Diego! |
One deputy out of 4,000 in San Diego? Hardly what I would call a tidal wave of corrupt officers.
One police officer out of 1,700 in the SDPD? Another example of the underwhelming level of corruption.
Come on, goat, you can do better than that.
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I would rather see it legal and taxed appropriately. John has a good point, the patchwork laws resulting from poor politics coupled with high taxes
encourage a black market. Making a reasonable tax rate and creating one unified series of STATE laws would help tremendously.
Making it illegal is stupid and will not work.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ateo | | And I wish I could really enjoy weed - but it tends to make me anxious these days rather than relaxed and creative as it did in my early 20’s.
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Geez....who isn't a bit anxious these days? 
Maybe the increased anxiety when having a puff is environmental/situational .... or the strain isn't the best for you.
Or it just comes with age and a different perspective ?
Managing anxiety is it's own art under any circumstance....
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ateo | | And I wish I could really enjoy weed - but it tends to make me anxious these days rather than relaxed and creative as it did in my early 20’s.
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You want to look for a high CBD to THC ratio strain.
https://www.healthline.com/health/high-cbd-cannabis-strains-...
Don't go for the opposite. Talk up the dispensary staff. Most of them know what they are talking about. Use a legal dispensary so you know for sure
what you are getting.
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