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[*] posted on 5-29-2021 at 06:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JC43  
My friends from Mulege, on the way to Europe. The flight in about 5 hours. Going to Balandra for a swim and kill those 5 hours. Car full of stuff. Suitcases. Complete photo equipment. Passports of course. Cash. etc.etc. Car perfectly locked.
The swim ,,, not even 20 minutes. Retunrning to the car ---- car completely empty.


Crikey! You gotta be a fool to park a car full of stuff and unattended, especially at a large parking lot like at balandra.




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[*] posted on 5-30-2021 at 08:30 AM


"... the bandidos have special keys. One size fits all. One for Chevy. One for Ford and so on"
Once when I locked my keys in the car while in Yucatan, I was able to talk with someone on the phone in the next town about 5 miles away who was a locksmith or someone who had "skills". He asked me what kind of car I had (it was a rental corolla or something), and he said he didn't have a key for that - it would take him about an hour to get one. As it happened, there was someone there at the tourist cave place where I was, who said he could help. He had a wire that he put a string with a loop at the end, a knife he used as a pry bar at the door jamb. He was able to get the wire through the door jamb and loop the string on the inside door handle to open the door. Took him about 10 minutes. About 5 minutes later, the guy from the next town showed up the key. Seems they all have "skills".
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[*] posted on 5-30-2021 at 08:50 AM


Hence steering wheel locks (really slows most of the thieves down if they want the car) and car alarms. A wire with a loop through the door frame is an old trick.

There's a lot of thieves in Mexico. I keep my boat on a mooring in Bahia Concepcion and it's always a worry. Seems that every winter season people lose boats on the bay.




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[*] posted on 5-30-2021 at 12:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Hence steering wheel locks (really slows most of the thieves down if they want the car) and car alarms. A wire with a loop through the door frame is an old trick.

There's a lot of thieves in Mexico. I keep my boat on a mooring in Bahia Concepcion and it's always a worry. Seems that every winter season people lose boats on the bay.


Those steering wheel locks can be defeated in minutes. The same for cable locks. And most pad locks with a universal bump key.

I leave my KTMs out a good bit. I have super thick chain locks that can't be cut with a bolt cutter. Put them through the top of the forks. You'd need a power tool to cut them. Also have a cable lock that has an alarm that goes off if it is cut. Use both.

Tried to find a motion activated light for the back of the truck, but haven't found a good one yet.

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[*] posted on 5-30-2021 at 12:46 PM


Haven't had anything stolen in MX in a long time. Had two coolers full of beer stolen in 2020. One in Oregon and one in New Mexico.




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[*] posted on 5-30-2021 at 01:24 PM


I keep a set of lock picks with me just about everywhere. This is a fun guy that shows you how to defeat just about any lock out there. A lot of them with those high powered magnets.

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[*] posted on 5-30-2021 at 05:10 PM


JC43,

The Thieves Market in Mexico City is an institution! It was there in the ‘80s when i worked there. They had a system for returning documents taken in thefts or pocket picking. When they determined where you were staying they sent a Boy Scout around to sell you back your stuff less the valuables! Very professional!
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[*] posted on 5-30-2021 at 06:02 PM


Had a friend traveling in Chiapas. At the military checkpoints, they ask "where are you staying". He told them the name of the hotel - his car was broken into that night at the hotel. I don't think it's a coincidence.
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[*] posted on 5-31-2021 at 10:11 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by JC43  
My friends from Mulege, on the way to Europe. The flight in about 5 hours. Going to Balandra for a swim and kill those 5 hours. Car full of stuff. Suitcases. Complete photo equipment. Passports of course. Cash. etc.etc. Car perfectly locked.
The swim ,,, not even 20 minutes. Retunrning to the car ---- car completely empty.


Crikey! You gotta be a fool to park a car full of stuff and unattended, especially at a large parking lot like at balandra.


Goat, look at that from the flip side. A frequently traveled parking lot. People all over the place. My friends were thinking with all those folks around thieves might not be capable to do a break in w/o getting full attention from others. Yep I said its already: With this special "one for all opens all" keys, nobody is paying attention.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2021 at 10:11 AM


Goat sure has a racist attitude about Mexican people all being thieves!

Thankfully, I have discovered (from 55 years of Mexico travel) that Mexican people are wonderful as a whole and have never had anything stolen. Most will give you anything you need without regard to their own poverty.




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[*] posted on 6-1-2021 at 10:26 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Goat sure has a racist attitude about Mexican people all being thieves!

Thankfully, I have discovered (from 55 years of Mexico travel) that Mexican people are wonderful as a whole and have never had anything stolen. Most will give you anything you need without regard to their own poverty.


That's not what Goat said. You are right that Mexican people are wonderful people and will often give you the shirts of their back. Often for nothing. It's also true that Mexicans think that all Americans are wealthy. And I suspect that some believe that removing some of that wealth is not a great tragedy for Americans.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2021 at 10:43 AM


LOL, right, that's not what he said, but it is a little pushback to the goat for all his verbal attacks on Americans. ;)



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[*] posted on 6-2-2021 at 09:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Goat sure has a racist attitude about Mexican people all being thieves!

Thankfully, I have discovered (from 55 years of Mexico travel) that Mexican people are wonderful as a whole and have never had anything stolen. Most will give you anything you need without regard to their own poverty.


David oh David - pls don`t say such BS again. Here is why: A racist attitude has nothing to do with being a thieve. Better look at Ku-Klax-Klan or Donald Trump to learn about racism before posting. Only besides. Mexicans do have steeling in their genes. Not all, but most. Your experience of 55 years of Mexican travel is certainly something but based on visiting Baja for ?????? two weeks in a row? Longer? 3 weeks? Even longer? Remember what JR told you: Pinchie Gringos not even living in Baja but pretending to have the greatest knowledge about Mexico. And no Mexican will give you anything you need without looking at his own poverty. That is just not true. It is simply impossible for a poor guy to give you anything you need. HE IS POOR !

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[*] posted on 6-2-2021 at 10:14 PM


JC43,

Can a Gringo who has lived and worked in Mexico for 35 years have an opinion? Most Mexicans work hard, most are honest. Cars are stolen all the time. Rental cars usually are marked to identify them and often have trackers so robbery not theft occurs.

You don't need a key to open a keyless entry car. Just a box from China! On looking for “racism” China is one of the places to start! Tibet or Xinjiang where over a million Uegers are being “reeducated” as an example.
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[*] posted on 6-2-2021 at 10:44 PM


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On looking for “racism” China is one of the places to start! Tibet or Xinjiang where over a million Uegers are being “reeducated” as an example.



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[*] posted on 6-3-2021 at 03:12 AM


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Yes, I have! In fact my father grew up in Brooklyn. He attended public school there. It was a “melting pot” and he was part Irish. What it was not was a government run concentration camp! Then there is Tibet! I’m old enough to remember when China “liberated” Tibet from the people who lived there.

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[*] posted on 6-3-2021 at 04:37 AM


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Yes, I have! In fact my father grew up in Brooklyn. He attended public school there. It was a “melting pot” and he was part Irish. What it was not was a government run concentration camp! Then there is Tibet! I’m old enough to remember when China “liberated” Tibet from the people who lived there.



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[*] posted on 6-3-2021 at 04:54 AM


Yes, escorted as shown in your picture. I can post some first hand testimony of how the Japanese dealt with US P.OW.s and civilians in the Philippians! It makes very grim reading!

It certainly wasn’t our finest moment at one level. That said you will find no pictures of soldiers from any of the Axis powers helping those being interned!

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[*] posted on 6-3-2021 at 07:30 AM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by JC43  
Only besides. Mexicans do have steeling in their genes.


It must be tough passing by a metal detector! :rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 6-3-2021 at 12:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by JC43  
Only besides. Mexicans do have steeling in their genes.


Now that statement surely must have some form of documentation that can be showed. Unless, of coarse you are only speaking from your pinheaded,racist dos neurona brain. Good god I thought I had heard almost everything, but seriously.
I have known more white rep. trash in my life than any Mexican I have met in 20 years.
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