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mtgoat666
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Back? America has always been here. Perhaps you are too short to see that america has always been here. Perhaps lifts or a step ladder would help you
see over the crowds?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Let's Drop this this Tread , has changed so much from the original subject .
Get it together guys. 
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Quote: Originally posted by ligui  | Let's Drop this this Tread , has changed so much from the original subject .
Get it together guys. |
no thanks 
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It is not so much the thread that has changed, just the bait!
There is only one name calling troll on board....sort of "OFF TOPIC" lite!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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The original subject was a misleading post pretending to be a trip report. Instead, it appeared to be another troll posting to set up a reaction from
informed individuals who cared enough to follow pandemic management strategies for the past 1.5 years.....or confer with like-minded.....
Then we got the banana side story as a cartoon in the middle of it all.
Don't believe everything you think....
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There are many aspects of Covid fraud, however, preventative care, nutrition, exercise, rest, are known to help increase immunity, while, failing to
self manage health decreases immunity. Why has preventative care, outpatient care never been an urgent priority for health care response to a so
called threat from flu-like infections?
Lifesaving protocols for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19
https://covid19criticalcare.com
We have read Fauci's emails released, as well as CDC stats, that clearly state by Fauci, that the risk from this epidemic was at worst %0.5 about the
same as a normal bad flu, yet, when we include positives that are asymptomatic the number goes down to %0.26 or half the rate of a bad flu season.
What Fauci’s emails tell us about his deadly incompetence and mishandling of COVID
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/what-faucis-emails-tell-us...
There have never been numbers of deaths per case that warranted these never before implemented restrictions. Nor has there been justification that the
restrictions have any benefit on health, while in fact we know they do not and instead cause harm. Namely, cloth face masks can not block virus
expelled from the mouth or nose, distancing has no proven success to reduce transmission, alcohol on hands is not a healthy action to repeat
throughout the day and results in reduced immunity, isolation does not help, nor does denying or delaying elective health visits. Nor has there been
justification for a vaccine for such a low impact illness.
The PCR RT test can not be used to test positive for Covid yes has been used globally, at high cycle counts that would produce a positive regardless
of presence of pathogen. In many cases guidelines categorized positive with covid based only on assumption.
Asymptomatic people are not infectious, no symptoms means non-existent infection. It's not possible to transmit if you have no presence of infection
symptoms. Asymptomatic people do not drive infection. Never before have healthy people been assumed to ill and required to prove they are healthy and
wear face masks. All of these frauds are intentional
Lockdowns don't work, reducing contacts isn't a successful theory to reduce transmission. If people are ill they stay home, if they are healthy they
go out, The case of ill people making contact with others is rare, yet being isolated while healthy is harmful.
The fast tracking of emergency use vaccine could only be approved if no other treatment existed, yet, there is ample global evidence of preventative
health treatments, outpatient treatments and success with prophylactic and early use of lysosomotropic agents.
Faucis emails reveal that he actively colluded to block other treatments, and hide the origin, including colluding with FB, Twitter, Google and
Youtube and produced a falsified Lancet study since retracted.
How British expert Dr Peter Daszak orchestrated a 'bullying' campaign and coerced top scientists into signing off on a letter to The Lancet aimed at
removing blame for Covid-19 from the Wuhan lab he was funding with US money
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9649259/Doctor-warn...
Fauci Brushed Off E-mail Suggesting Hydroxychloroquine Was Effective Against COVID-19: “Too Long for Me to Read”
https://thenewamerican.com/fauci-brushed-off-email-suggestin...
The Lancet Retracts Hydroxychloroquine Study
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200605/lancet-retracts-hyd...
Worse, the rushed vaccines were not tested on high risk demographics but are encouraged to be given to those groups, and each of the producers has
racked up a long list of adverse effects, including thrombosis, and deaths.
Finally, these experimental gene modification products don't reduce risk to infection or transmission, while they permanently propagate toxic covid19
spike proteins, that now appear to cause health issues in some recipients short term, while long term adverse effects are yet unknown.
The Left Has Made a Liar Their Cult-Idol
https://townhall.com/columnists/mattvespa/2021/06/08/the-lef...
Bananas, fruits and vegetables are key to preventative health response to improve immunity as prophylactics and during early infection to reduce risk
from viral flu like infections.
Naturally recuperated have the highest form of immunity, not only from both broad and specific anti-bodies, but also t-cells, and natural killers,
meaning those who had previously been infected and recuperated have no justification for vaccination and vaccination post infection seems to product
more adverse effects, pathogenic priming and cytokine storms that increase risk for subsequent similar exposures and variants.
Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals - Conclusions Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to
benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v...
There is much more going on here, in terms of global bio-technocratic fraud to roll out a mass surveillance program, and provoke unquestioned inject
the global population with never before successfully used nor adequate tested mRNA injections.
Today, CDC announced all mRNA covid gene products seem to cause increased blood clots and an emergency meeting is scheduled. J&J has over 60
million doses of their product pulled for errors, and issues in quality, but, who knows how many were delivered with issues?
The END of the CDC, NIH, FDA?
“These public health agencies,” according to Dr. Harte, “instead of their alleged purpose, promoting health, they have damaged, and in many
cases destroyed, the physical and mental health of millions.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/end-cdc-nih-fda-wonders-17360...
U.S. FDA asks J&J to discard millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses
https://news.yahoo.com/fda-asks-johnson-johnson-discard-1456...
The CDC Says This New Delayed Vaccine Side Effect Is Hitting Mostly Men
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cdc-says-delayed-vaccine-sid...
CDC panel to hold emergency meeting on heart inflammation cases linked to COVID-19 vaccine
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-panel-hold-emergency-meeting-1400...
Shelter from the cytokine storm: pitfalls and prospects in the development of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines for an elderly population
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33159214/
Blood clots as prevalent with Pfizer and Moderna vaccine as with AstraZeneca's: study
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/blood-clots-as-prevalent-w...
Calaveras County man claims he developed blood clots after receiving Moderna vaccine
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/calaveras-county-m...
Widely available lysosome targeting agents should be considered as potential therapy for COVID-19
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09248...
The antiviral remdesivir shortened recovery time for patients hospitalized with COVID-19, based on results from the completed trial.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/final-r...
Texas Senate Covid Testimony: People with natural immunity don't need and should not have vaccine.
https://www.b-tchute.com/video/13UkqLSZ3htZ/
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2020.5929... Molecular Docking Reveals Ivermectin and Remdesivir as Potential Repurposed Drugs
Against SARS-CoV-2
Tony Fauci, Bill Gates, Deborah Birx, Robert Redfield, Peter Daszak, Ralf Baric, Shi Zengli, Klaus Schwab, WEF, Davos, NHID, GAVI, CDC, WHO, CCP,
Wuhan Lab, Fort Detrick, the list is long...
http://www.theuncensoredreport.com/2021/06/video-fauci-proje...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U1ViAabtd8
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30151594/
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/spike-proteins-covid-19-and...
[Edited on 6-12-2021 by gnukid]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | There are many aspects of Covid fraud, however, preventative care, nutrition, exercise, rest, are known to help increase immunity, while, failing to
self manage health decreases immunity. Why has preventative care, outpatient care never been an urgent priority for health care response to a so
called threat from flu-like infections?
We have read Fauci's emails released, as well as CDC stats, that clearly state by Fauci, that the risk from this epidemic was at worst %0.5 about the
same as a normal bad flu, yet, when we include positives that are asymptomatic the number goes down to %0.26 or half the rate of a bad flu season.
There have never been numbers of deaths per case that warranted these never before implemented restrictions. Nor has there been justification that the
restrictions have any benefit on health, while in fact we know they do not and instead cause harm. Namely, cloth face masks can not block virus
expelled from the mouth or nose, distancing has no proven success to reduce transmission, alcohol on hands is not a healthy action to repeat
throughout the day and results in reduced immunity, isolation does not help, nor does denying or delaying elective health visits. Nor has there been
justification for a vaccine for such a low impact illness.
Moreover, the fast tracking of emergency use vaccine could only be approved if no other treatment existed, yet, there is ample global evidence of
preventative health and success with prophylactic and early use of lysosomotropic agents.
Faucis emails reveal that he actively colluded to block other treatments, including colluding with FB, Twitter, Google and Youtube and produced a
falsified Lancet study since retracted.
Fauci Brushed Off E-mail Suggesting Hydroxychloroquine Was Effective Against COVID-19: “Too Long for Me to Read”
https://thenewamerican.com/fauci-brushed-off-email-suggestin...
Worse, the rushed vaccines were not tested on high risk demographics but are encouraged to be given to those groups, and each of the producers has
racked up a long list of adverse effects, including thrombosis, and deaths.
Finally, these experimental gene modification products don't reduce risk to infection or transmission, while they permanently propagate toxic covid19
spike proteins, that now appear to cause health issues in some recipients short term, while long term adverse effects are yet unknown.
Bananas, fruits and vegetables are key to preventative health response to improve immunity as prophylactics and during early infection to reduce risk
from viral flu like infections.
Naturally recuperated have the highest form of immunity, not only from both broad and specific anti-bodies, but also t-cells, and natural killers,
meaning those who had previously been infected and recuperated have no justification for vaccination and vaccination post infection seems to product
more adverse effects, pathogenic priming and cytokine storms that increase risk for subsequent similar exposures and variants.
There is much more going on here, in terms of global bio-technocratic fraud to roll out a mass surveillance program, and provoke unquestioned inject
the global population with never before successfully used nor adequate tested mRNA injections.
Today, CDC announced all mRNA seem to cause in creased blood clots and an emergency meeting is scheduled. J&J has over 60 million doses of their
product pulled for errors, and issues in quality, but, who knows how many were delivered with issues?
U.S. FDA asks J&J to discard millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses
https://news.yahoo.com/fda-asks-johnson-johnson-discard-1456...
U.S. FDA asks J&J to discard millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses
https://news.yahoo.com/fda-asks-johnson-johnson-discard-1456...
Shelter from the cytokine storm: pitfalls and prospects in the development of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines for an elderly population
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33159214/
Blood clots as prevalent with Pfizer and Moderna vaccine as with AstraZeneca's: study
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/blood-clots-as-prevalent-w...
Calaveras County man claims he developed blood clots after receiving Moderna vaccine
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/calaveras-county-m...
Widely available lysosome targeting agents should be considered as potential therapy for COVID-19
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09248...
[Edited on 6-12-2021 by gnukid] |
Paul,
What did Fred (RIP) and Janet think about your becoming a Trumper and your losing touch with rational thought?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Looks like Spain 🇪🇸 is back too!
Sadly for some, the world is returning to normal.
#IVERMECTIN
FLCCC.NET
I like beer, better than most people.
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Every time I read a comment with the word normal in it, the word that comes to mind is clueless.
''Sadly for some?'' Enjoy the new normal.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Damn America is back. Even the tyrants in Libs states have given up trying to control us.
Dip your toe outside the basement and smell that freedom!
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Your toes smell like freedom ????? 
Don't believe everything you think....
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America was never gone, but Biden is making it great again!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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THAT was a crazy motoGP! what, Fabio couldn't zip up his leathers at 200mph?
these guys are 'effin AMAZING!
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Bottom line and what history will say is vaccines are saving the world right now.
Saving the world.
Saving lives.
Saving love.
Saving some young child’s parents.
Giving the world hope.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
I agree.
Incidentally, seems like the pharma folks must be cleaning up over this, because I'm convinced vaccination isn't going away for a while. I'm
surprised not to see people blaming them for the pandemic among all these conspiracy theories floating around.
Or maybe I missed that one. |
Conspiracy theories
I'm not a Trump fan in the least. In fact I've mostly been a never-Trumper. And I think he was a complete idiot for calling it the Chinese Virus.
That said, there is far worst going on regarding this origin topic. The Trump administration had intel reports that the source was man made and said
it early. All the mainstream media denounced it. Big tech censored discussion on it. And Fauci fought it. They (media) said it was a "conspiracy
theory." Lots of video quotes from dozens of mainstream shows saying that.
Now all are accepting the idea that it was man-made as a real possibility. Maybe the most likely possibility.
Let's not kid ourselves that this early dismissal wasn't politically motivated. It would point to another bad guy other than Trump.
Outside of this topic, 90% of the mainstream media is telling the public a one-sided story about the US government. And 95% of Big Tech's censorship
is against one side.
I'm a moderate and I'll call out the idiots on both side. But we have a major problem with the free flow of information in the US right now. And
that's no conspiracy theory. Watch them and you'll see it for yourself.
[Edited on 6-13-2021 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
I agree.
Incidentally, seems like the pharma folks must be cleaning up over this, because I'm convinced vaccination isn't going away for a while. I'm
surprised not to see people blaming them for the pandemic among all these conspiracy theories floating around.
Or maybe I missed that one. |
Conspiracy theories
I'm not a Trump fan in the least. In fact I've mostly been a never-Trumper. And I think he was a complete idiot for calling it the Chinese Virus.
That said, there is far worst going on regarding this origin topic. The Trump administration had intel reports that the source was man made and said
it early. All the mainstream media denounced it. Big tech censored discussion on it. And Fauci fought it. They (media) said it was a "conspiracy
theory." Lots of video quotes from dozens of mainstream shows saying that.
Now all are accepting that as a real possibility.
Let's not kid ourselves that this dismissal wasn't politically motivated. It would point to another bad guy other than Trump.
90% of the mainstream media is telling the public a one-sided story about the US government. And 95% of Big Tech's censorship is against one side.
I'm a moderate and I'll call out the idiots on both side. But we have a major problem with the free flow of information in the US right now. And
that's no conspiracy theory. Watch them and you'll see it.
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The GOP can’t win votes by pedaling ideas, so the try to get votes by spinning conspiracy theories and lies, and creating foreign and ethnic
bogeymen to prey on their voters insecurities.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
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I'm a moderate and I'll call out the idiots on both side.
[Edited on 6-13-2021 by JZ] |
ya? Well, I'm calling out a moderate idiot. 
Thanks for the media conspiracy deal..... I'll be sure to keep an eye out for that.
Got any good links?
Don't believe everything you think....
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If you have 2 1/2 hours to spend go to flccc.net and listen to the podcast. This link should get you there. Scroll down a bit for the video podcast.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/videos-and-press/flccc-relea...
We listened to it on our trip back from Baja to Idaho. So 2 1/2 hours was easy to find.
I like beer, better than most people.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
The GOP can’t win votes by pedaling ideas, so the try to get votes by spinning conspiracy theories and lies, and creating foreign and ethnic
bogeymen to prey on their voters insecurities. |
Don't forget senate and congressional obstruction, gerrymandering, increased obstacles to voting, ignoring gun violence and infrastructure needs,
bigotry, and racism. Ignoring the separation of church and state is just the cherry on top.
Not a great party platform at the moment.
John
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