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JZ
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Welp, no more having a Pacifico while cruising on a desolate trail down in Baja
Infrastructure Bill Would Require Alcohol Monitors for All New Cars
https://freebeacon.com/politics/infrastructure-bill-would-re...
[Edited on 8-5-2021 by JZ]
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Tioloco
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I suppose it could be disactivated like the seatbelt chime, etc.
But the fact that something like that is hidden in an “Infrastructure” bill is another problem.
Could be good for the Baja community though. New opportunity for hiring a non drinking passenger to ride around and be the sober breath sample
provider. lol!
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JDCanuck
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While I'm a fan of ending drinking and driving, I am not a fan of multiplying the number of devices that might disable your vehicle by error, or have
to replace it with a new vehicle due to early high frequency repairs. Getting hard to find a vehicle suitable for Baja roads that isn't older
technology.
[Edited on 8-5-2021 by JDCanuck]
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vandy
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All I got out of the article?
Ban lobbying.
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mtgoat666
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MADD started over 40 years ago, and despite extensive efforts of MADD and many others, people still drive drunk.
People should not still be dieing from this.
Since you cant trust people to do the right thing, then maybe technology can fix stupidity, eh?
[Edited on 8-5-2021 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  | MADD started over 40 years ago, and despite extensive efforts of MADD and many others, people still drive drunk.
People should not still be dieing from this.
Since you cant trust people to do the right thing, then maybe technology can fix stupidity, eh?
[Edited on 8-5-2021 by mtgoat666] |
And then there was another group, DAMM, Drunks Against Mad Mothers. I know, I know, a tasteless joke.
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But by the grace of God go Thee.
EXACTLY; What everybody says when they read about someone they don't know killed by a DUI
I personally can't wait to see an alcoholic unable to start his car.
Its not gonna be pretty. They killed my friend.
Es Todo Bueno
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How about road rage prevention?
Imagine onboard A.I. that would not let you put your car in gear until after you view some random images on a screen, while answering questions.
Sensors would monitor your vital signs while your eyes and and body language is being analyzed to determine if you are a threat to yourself, or
others!
After all, if it saves one life, it would be worth it!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Terry28
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fake news....
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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They're encroaching on our personal freedom too much. I don't like it.
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As someone who lost her father at 10 years old from drunk driving I absolutely support this.
Keep your alcohol levels below the legal limit of .08. JZ I'm sure a beer or two in the middle of nowhere in Baja will be fine, just don't get drunk.
No one has the right to drive drunk and kill me and my family.
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I looked it up. Reported by multiple news sources. The legal limit of .08 will be built in so if you have a beer or two (on one if you're kid size
like me) you're good to go.
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JDCanuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco | I suppose it could be disactivated like the seatbelt chime, etc.
But the fact that something like that is hidden in an “Infrastructure” bill is another problem.
Could be good for the Baja community though. New opportunity for hiring a non drinking passenger to ride around and be the sober breath sample
provider. lol! |
Facial recognition linked to GPS sensors will likely be used by then as well. This will be marketed as an anti-theft device. Who could possibly resist
that one?
[Edited on 8-5-2021 by JDCanuck]
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AKgringo
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That depends.....
| Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama |
I looked it up. Reported by multiple news sources. The legal limit of .08 will be built in so if you have a beer or two (on one if you're kid size
like me) you're good to go. |
If you are taking certain medications, no amount of alcohol is safe! I used to take lisinopril (a heart medication) and with even a moderate amount
of alcohol, I was at risk of fainting if my blood pressure dropped too low!
I no longer use either of those drugs!
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If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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JDCanuck
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I know this isn't a very popular suggestion lately, but might we do better to fund the Police so they can get ALL the dangerous drivers off the road,
including the drunk ones?
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Good idea!
Sounds like the systems determine how well the car is being driven, not necessarily how much alcohol is being exhaled by the driver.
Drivers impaired for other reasons such as sleepiness, medication, distraction, and ?? will also be detected.
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"Crucially, the new standard wouldn’t be limited to drunk drivers. Because the systems measure impairment directly, they would be just as effective
at detecting impairment from prescription drugs, emotional distress, or simple distraction. A longer-term effort would also seek to mandate passive
alcohol monitoring systems, like those currently being developed by Volvo."
https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/3/22607890/infrastructure-im...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volvocars-safety/safety-f...
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
Sounds like the systems determine how well the car is being driven, not necessarily how much alcohol is being exhaled by the driver.
Drivers impaired for other reasons such as sleepiness, medication, distraction, and ?? will also be detected.
Good idea!
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"Crucially, the new standard wouldn’t be limited to drunk drivers. Because the systems measure impairment directly, they would be just as effective
at detecting impairment from prescription drugs, emotional distress, or simple distraction. A longer-term effort would also seek to mandate passive
alcohol monitoring systems, like those currently being developed by Volvo."
https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/3/22607890/infrastructure-im...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volvocars-safety/safety-f...
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I drove a rental from Indiana to Florida in January. It had lane detection technology in it.
It was the worst. It had like 5 levels of warnings it progressed through.
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo |
If you are taking certain medications, no amount of alcohol is safe! I used to take lisinopril (a heart medication) and with even a moderate amount
of alcohol, I was at risk of fainting if my blood pressure dropped too low. |
I take lisinopril for BP. I haven't had any cross reaction with alcohol at all. And, I do like my alcohol, just never, ever drink and drive.
I wonder if JZ is as upset about kickstand switches and clutch switches on dirt bikes? Stopping drunks from driving seems a much better use of
technology than keeping some idiot from starting in gear or taking off with the kickstand down. But, those are mandated by law already. The horror!
Pick your battles.
John
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JZ
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She mostly rides shot gun.
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Not too surprised that the Chinese Geely who now owns Volvo is taking a lead in introducing electronic monitoring of drivers. They are way ahead of
the US in that regard. It's been reported by Bloomberg through their facial recognition systems they can have the fines pulled from your account
within a minute if you jaywalk
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