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[*] posted on 8-5-2021 at 07:43 PM
Salina Cuarenta


why is Salina Cuarenta called Salina Cuarenta?

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[*] posted on 8-5-2021 at 08:09 PM


Because it's between Salinas 39 and 41?

No laughs?

Maybe simply named after the ranch? Which came first the ranch or the salt flat?

OK, well here we see the 'Quarente Ranch' on a 1930 map:



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[*] posted on 8-5-2021 at 09:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
why is Salina Cuarenta called Salina Cuarenta?



‘Cause it’s below Cuarenta Mesa. Why Cuarenta? A story about 40 soldiers buried a treasure there, or some such tale…




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[*] posted on 8-5-2021 at 09:43 PM


no, it is not below Mesa Cuarenta
Salina, Mesa, Arroyo, Rancho and Estero with that Cuarenta name are many miles apart - but within 15 miles of each other


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[*] posted on 8-5-2021 at 10:54 PM


The map label is wrong, Mesa Cuarenta is the mesa not the salt flat or low desert. It is called Mesa La Salina on most modern maps

Here is a photo I took of it, a few days before I was at your house:





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[*] posted on 8-6-2021 at 05:48 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
no, it is not below Mesa Cuarenta
Salina, Mesa, Arroyo, Rancho and Estero with that Cuarenta name are many miles apart - but within 15 miles of each other


[Edited on 8-6-2021 by 4x4abc]


The salina is below a big flocking mesa, call it what you like.




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[*] posted on 8-6-2021 at 06:19 AM


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The salina is below a big flocking mesa, call it what you like.


how does that help to figure out where the name came from?




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[*] posted on 8-6-2021 at 11:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


The salina is below a big flocking mesa, call it what you like.


how does that help to figure out where the name came from?


I explained cuarenta above. Go read it again.




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[*] posted on 8-6-2021 at 05:43 PM


seems like we have an answer
Salina del Cuarenta is 40 miles away from San Ignacio
on the old (mostly impassable) road along the bottom of Mesa La Salina



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[*] posted on 8-6-2021 at 07:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
seems like we have an answer
Salina del Cuarenta is 40 miles away from San Ignacio
on the old (mostly impassable) road along the bottom of Mesa La Salina



40 miles, 40 soldiers, same same, eh?





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[*] posted on 8-6-2021 at 08:00 PM


Odd a distance in miles was used? However, given that the first vehicles (1920s) may have been from the states and their odometers read in miles... who knows?



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[*] posted on 8-6-2021 at 10:30 PM


got that input from a local resident on one of the Baja history sites.



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[*] posted on 8-8-2021 at 09:48 PM


to give you an update
one of my Mexican friends claims he has a map from the 1860's
saying "Salina de Cuarenta Martires"
now, Cuarenta Martires is a well known event for active religious people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Martyrs_of_Sebaste

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[*] posted on 8-9-2021 at 09:11 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
to give you an update
one of my Mexican friends claims he has a map from the 1860's
saying "Salina de Cuarenta Martires"
now, Cuarenta Martires is a well known event for active religious people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Martyrs_of_Sebaste

waiting for a copy of that map


Great discovery, if true. Sounds more plausible than 40 miles.

No Cuarenta on these maps... but nearby (10 miles from Rancho Cuarenta) Patrocinio sure is!

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[*] posted on 8-9-2021 at 11:12 AM


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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
to give you an update
one of my Mexican friends claims he has a map from the 1860's
saying "Salina de Cuarenta Martires"
now, Cuarenta Martires is a well known event for active religious people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Martyrs_of_Sebaste

waiting for a copy of that map


I already told you the source of the name, 40 soldiers (or sailors?) buried a treasure somewhere on the mesa…

This is story told by locals at the lagoon





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[*] posted on 8-9-2021 at 01:05 PM


Mexicans love fairy tales as much as Americans savor conspiracy theories



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[*] posted on 8-9-2021 at 01:11 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Mexicans love fairy tales as much as Americans savor conspiracy theories


and always involve hidden gold!
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[*] posted on 11-2-2021 at 11:40 AM


found the 1860's map - it is indeed Salina Cuarenta Martires



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[*] posted on 11-2-2021 at 11:51 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
found the 1860's map - it is indeed Salina Cuarenta Martires


Please post or email it to me, if you can!




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