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PaulW
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More crime - San Matias
Saturday at 09:32 (The 7th)
a 2010 Gold Tundra carjacked east of San Matias at 7:30 this morning. We have reason to believe this is a small local gang. They let our driver keep
his license but took everything else. I’m the future we plan to have our employees travel in groups or wait for other cars at the check points and
follow them.
[Edited on 8-15-2021 by BajaNomad]
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mtgoat666
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Where is San matias? What road?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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PaulW
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Hwy 3
[Edited on 8-13-2021 by PaulW]
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Well, I have tried to save Baja's reputation and not rate crime in Baja higher than it happens in any other country in the world. But that's probably
not appropriate here. Maybe I'm in the wrong forum.
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I love Baja as much as the next guy but when thing are happening directly to tourist ( targeted) I pay attention. I tell people ( mostly cops) every
day how safe and awesome Baja is, I probably shouldn't but I do! Several car jacking in the span of a week gets my attention and makes me rethink my
plans, this should make people happy, fewer gringos in Baja to bother you.
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Quote: Originally posted by advrider  | | Several car jacking in the span of a week gets my attention and makes me rethink my plans, this should make people happy, fewer gringos in Baja to
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It might make selfish gringos, who want to control the flow of other gringos to their "secret" paradise, happy.
But I bet the vast majority of local Mexicans DO NOT want anything that reduces the flow of Canadian or American dollars or Euros to Mexico. Tourism
is still, I believe, the second largest industry in Mexico.
There was a recent news story on news wires about poverty increasing dramatically in Mexico since the pandemic. I believe that the percentage of
persons living in poverty in Mexico is now at or above 50%.
The indirect effects of the pandemic can be life-changing in ways not associated with actually contracting the virus. Increased poverty only plays
into the hands of the cartels by increasing the desperation of more people. More fodder for cartel-vs-cartel and gang-vs-gang cannons.
But I agree with you. This type of hijacking makes potential tourists sit up and take notice. It should be shared on international news wires.
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Well said HOOK, I would guess that the pandemic has had a major effect on the economy and will take years to recover.
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Car jacking and home break-in's are so common in SoCal that the police often don't respond and the news usually doesn't cover them. A couple of
break-in’s and car jacking’s over a 1000KM of Baja are not a Cartel Crime Wave!
Anyone consider who usually drives a “Black Yukon” and wonder if there was a bad drug deal or Cartel vs Cartel violence taking place?
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Car jacking and home break-in's are so common in SoCal that the police often don't respond and the news usually doesn't cover them. A couple of
break-in’s and car jacking’s over a 1000KM of Baja are not a Cartel Crime Wave!
Anyone consider who usually drives a “Black Yukon” and wonder if there was a bad drug deal or Cartel vs Cartel violence taking place?
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Your post seems to be in conflict with itself.
I was only describing the economic conditions that exist in Mexico. People far more savvy than me have already concluded that poor economic conditions
force people into cartels/gangs, when the social services network is so inadequate in Mexico.
But, I must say, an armed hijacking of multiple vehicles by multiple persons doesn't sound like an "unorganized" crime of opportunity by unassociated
persons, to me.
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Car jacking and home break-in's are so common in SoCal that the police often don't respond and the news usually doesn't cover them. A couple of
break-in’s and car jacking’s over a 1000KM of Baja are not a Cartel Crime Wave!
Anyone consider who usually drives a “Black Yukon” and wonder if there was a bad drug deal or Cartel vs Cartel violence taking place?
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I live in CA and have always practiced what I consider common-sense precautions to avoid being ripped-off. In all my life I have NEVER had anything
stolen from me other than once a rear license plate was stolen off my SUV while it was parked on a city street over night----something I almost never
do. I moved away from the SoCal Coast because I became uncomfortable with what was happening crime-wise. I feel the same about Baja now, and don't
go there anymore, and that is a shame.
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It is a shame... You have a love for Baja unequalled, much like mine. I am in no hurry to go south when these events happen. Covid makes it easy to
not go, either.
Along the shores of Bahía de los Angeles, Mary Ann Humfreville being kidnapped (and most likely killed) from her bed in the middle of the night, was
pretty ugly. She was a harmless senior citizen and not unkind to anyone. It has been 8 months and she still has not been found.
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This route connects San Felipe and Ensenada. I don't know whether many tourist are travelling there but there could be a traffic of locals and
expats.
[Edited on 8-14-2021 by Alm]
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It is also a route between Mexicali and Ensenada, free of steep grades for trucks. That is why the highway joins Hwy. 5, 30 miles north of San Felipe
rather than directly into San Felipe.
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"our employees travel in groups"
Could you put this in context a bit? You have groups of vehicles with several people? All trucks? Looking like tourists? How did they stop you?
Armed? How many? Reported? There were several car jackings in the area? What else do you know about them? then what did you do? I agree that
Baja travelers should be alerted to incidents that may affect them. A better understanding of the incident may dictate avoiding the area, or being
aware of a type of set-up.
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There is a thing they teach in a number of schools. It’s called situational awareness. It’s always a good idea to practice it wherever you are as
people have been shot and robbed in a Walmart parking lot.
It goes without saying to practice it in Mexico!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | It is also a route between Mexicali and Ensenada, free of steep grades for trucks. That is why the highway joins Hwy. 5, 30 miles north of San Felipe
rather than directly into San Felipe.
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This is much longer than taking 2D to Tecate and then Hwy 3 to Ensenada. Maybe San Matias route is better for real "trucks" but those don't seem to
be hijacked often, not yet 
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | It is also a route between Mexicali and Ensenada, free of steep grades for trucks. That is why the highway joins Hwy. 5, 30 miles north of San Felipe
rather than directly into San Felipe.
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This is much longer than taking 2D to Tecate and then Hwy 3 to Ensenada. Maybe San Matias route is better for real "trucks" but those don't seem to
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Who knows the logic of Mexican Highway Engineers?
The super-steep Rumorosa Grade on Hwy. 2 (2-D) may be an issue for some trucks, maybe back when there was just one lane in each direction?
The Ensenada to Mex 5 highway was completed by early 1978. It was originally BC #16.
I am not sure when the new, 4-lane Highway 2/ La Rumorosa Grade was completed? I used in in 2001, for the first time.
Kind of crazy when the Feds took it over. Instead of a new highway name, they used the Tecate to Ensenada highway number! (Mex #3). One Mex 3 is a
North-South highway and the other Mex #3 is and East-West highway! The new Libramiento de Ensenada finally connects the two.
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In the US I'm not worried about being car jacked because I'm armed and trained. In Mexico I would either have to hit them or make a run for it,
stopping would not be a good option! One car might be manageable to deal with or get away from but multiple cars and people is a game changer. I would
not think cartel would want to bring this kind of attention on them self's, maybe another gang running on their own.
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If you aren't worried, why are you packin' ?
Don't believe everything you think....
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Maybe he's not worried because he IS packing.
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