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JZ
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Perfect example of how government cannot control climate change. Reminds me of them getting in the business of offering cheap college loans to
everyone and that spurring colleges to raise tuition 10x, leaving millions, hundreds of thousands in debt with worthless degrees.
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John Harper
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Tuition prices had nothing to do with your failure to pass the bar exam.
John
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willardguy
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Daily Wire it must be true!
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JZ
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Scholarship because was top 5 in the class. Employer paid for the rest.
Aren't you a HS teacher. Shop class? Ppl teach when they can't do.
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RFClark
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WG,
The “new extension” of the electric car rebate effective 2023 requires that the car be mostly made in the US with made in the US parts. Currently
most of the batteries use imported cells. That means for the next few years no federal rebate unless they change the law.
If you buy a car this year you receive the old rebate. We did!
Yes but debt for a liberal arts degree that only qualifies you to ask if you would like fries with your Soylent green burger is a crime against those
dumb enough to take the money!
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SFandH
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52% increase in battery costs
"Buyers around the world are lining up to purchase electric vehicles (EVs) this year - even with prices surging."
"This year, EV demand has stayed strong even as the average cost of lithium-ion battery cells soared to an estimated $160 (€148) per kilowatt-hour
in the first quarter from $105 (€97) last year."
https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/04/19/people-are-still-l...
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RFClark
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SF&H
We’re currently paying $359 US for a complete 1.3KW Li Ion battery.
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JZ
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Putting govt. subsidies on a product to increase demand when there is already extreme inflation hitting said product. What could possibly go wrong?
Where do the batteries come from? Putting America's energy reliance in the hands of foreign countries at a point of great world tension. What could
possibly go wrong?
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RFClark
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JZ,
The new law requires the batteries be made here or no rebate!
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John Harper
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Scholarship because was top 5 in the class. Employer paid for the rest.
Aren't you HS teacher. Shop class? Ppl teach when they can't do.
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With writing like that, I'm not surprised the law was not for you.
John
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David K
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Is it time for a palm tree photo, yet??? 
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mtgoat666
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Why Republicans Turned Against the Environment
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/15/opinion/republicans-envir...
In a nutshell, GOP is anti-environment because GOP made environment part of their cultural war.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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RFClark
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Goat,
That’s the problem with the if you’re not all for me you’re all against me Liberal approach. It doesn’t work in the real world!
I’m not against the environment! I’m as green or greener than you are! I’m certainly greener than John Kerry and Algor combined!
I’m against turning mine and everyone else's lives over to those incompetent hypocrites.
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JZ
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Where do the raw materials come from?
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SFandH
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I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
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RFClark
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The vehicle must be assembled in the US. The battery materials must be extracted or made in the US or in a country the US has a free trade agreement
with.
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RFClark
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SF&H,
So prove me wrong! I’ll match you one incompetent and Hypocritical for any “good things” you want to post. I’m not picking on just Liberals or
just the US. There’s plenty of stupid to go way around.
The fact that there are lots worse places doesn’t give the government is the solution what’s the problem folks here a free ride!
It’s not just the Government it the population too.
Example:
Some parts of the US have a water shortage and other parts flood regularly. Even within the same state. California as an example. Generally the people
with too much water wold rather see the excess water go out to see than be sent to places where it can be used. The governments in those flood prone
areas listen to their voters and back the out to sea approach. That said they (the governments and people) are there with their collective hands out
after ever flood! They expect the drought areas to bail them out!
There’s far more but this is topical!
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SFandH
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"But… as currently written, the material, component and assembly requirements in the Clean Vehicle Credit will immediately reduce (by a lot) the
number of qualifying electric vehicles available to consumers for purchase with the tax credit.
Here’s what I mean: there are 72 EV models currently available for purchase in the United States including battery, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell
electric vehicles. Seventy percent of those EVs would immediately become ineligible when the bill passes and none would qualify for the full credit
when additional sourcing requirements go into effect. Zero."
https://www.autosinnovate.org/posts/blog/what-if-no-evs-qual...
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willardguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
I think everybody understands your constantly repeated opinion about government.
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Imagine if he LIVED in America!
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RFClark
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WG,
You can play too! Post the great things done well! “I’d rather see the water go out to sea” is far more typical!
As Engineers we can fix the problems but only if there’s leadership on the hard issues. Water and Energy both have solutions but not without
competent leadership.
Got any?
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