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Paco Facullo
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Heck, I own a 1968 Honda CT90 that gets 100 mpg or so...
And that ain't hay,,,,,,
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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John Harper
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No, but you couldn't ride from LA to Mammoth in a day. And, they needed grass and water.
Wasn't Robert Redford "The Electric Horseman?"
John
[Edited on 8-26-2022 by John Harper]
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caj13
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | | Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | wow - poor David and JZ must be really upset. I posted a simple list of facts for them to check out - contradicting their blathering BS - and the
post disappeared almost immediately, along with their posts outlining their lies and agenda!
why JZ? why David - leave your work here for all members to see and respond to! |
I disagree with you. I'm glad to see that Bajanomad deleted the political posts. The argument is never-ending. Why bother?
If you want to participate in a US blue vs. red political debate, go to off-topic. |
My issue is not with the moderator removing posts. My issue is those posts by David and JZ stay up until they get called out - demonstrating how
wrong they are, and then they go crying to Doug - and he makes em feel better by removing the posts!
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caj13
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| Quote: Originally posted by Copacetico1 | I think this is going to kill tourism in California. Many places will now be out of reach. Drive from San Diego to Mammoth to go skiing? Nope? Tahoe?
Nope. LA to San Francisco? Not in one day. How will California replace its cut in the gasoline sales taxes? That funds road infrastructure.
This has disaster written all over it and is poorly thought out. |
Yeah, we saw similar prognostications about how automobiles were just fads, connestoga wagons would always be the transportation of choice, whale
oil lamps, steam engines - etc etc etc - somehow, some way science and technology figured it out - why would you not think that will continue to
happen?
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SFandH
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There are many problems that need to be solved for a successful large-scale transition to EVs. This is the type of change where entrepreneurship and
capitalism will shine. There's money to be made.
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Don Pisto
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look what they did to get water to los angeles....they'll figure it out
combine em! https://news.yahoo.com/california-cover-canal-solar-panels-1...
[Edited on 8-27-2022 by Don Pisto]
[Edited on 8-27-2022 by Don Pisto]
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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SFandH
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Electron Drive-In Burgers
Get a high-voltage veggie burger, Faraday fries, a Coulomb coke, and a 30-minute charge for one low price.
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John Harper
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Don't forget the famous Ohm's Onion Rings! With a side of Teslaw.
John
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | There are many problems that need to be solved for a successful large-scale transition to EVs. This is the type of change where entrepreneurship and
capitalism will shine. There's money to be made.
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Yep. Sooner or later some of these knuckleheads on BN will maybe understand that. I'm not holding my breath. The ignorance of economics and history
is just astounding.
There were hundreds of small automobile manufacturers in just the first few years of the 20th Century. They eventually consolidated or passed into
history, which is part of the life cycle of most markets. There may be one buggy whip manufacturer left in the world today. Probably dozens of
aircraft manufacturers after 1903 through at least 1920.
Capitalism is all about change, new products, new ideas, etc. Creative destruction, isn't that the term?
If you're not moving ahead, you're falling behind.
Maybe that's where "conservatives" have a fundamental disconnect with reality.
John
[Edited on 8-27-2022 by John Harper]
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RFClark
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Today’s exciting solar adventure!
Transition to solar and EVs isn’t hard. We’ve had EVs and plug hybrids for years. We’re building our 3rd solar house now.
  
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JZ
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EV's have value for some applications. Dense urban cities for sure.
Doubtful CA will come close to meeting is said goal. The electric grid is too big of a challenge. If they push nuclear, perhaps, w/o it, they will
be way off.
The other problem is that the US doesn't have the raw materials to make all the batteries. This will leave us reliant on foreign nations. That is a
very big risk to our security and economy.
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JZ
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Solar and wind are great for home use. Solar and wind are not good for powering the grid as they are terribly expensive and do massive damage to the
Earth.
Germany is in for a very bad winter because they shut down fossil fuels, turned away from nuclear, tried to use wind/solar, and built up reliance on
Russian oil.
This is a cautionary tale for the US.
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RFClark
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Goat,
I earned my living doing technical work in 3RD world countries for 50 years. I think that qualifies ne to compare California’s electrical service to
that of a 3rd world country! Most 3rd world countries beat CA hands down. PG&E kills a lot of people through criminal negligence. It burns down
whole towns. Down south Edison has tons of outages some scheduled and most not. Of course there are the fire danger outages and the flex alerts.
If SDG&E is better and you’re happy fine. Some people are easy to please.
The Brits have drank warm beer for generations because Lucas the prince of darkness makes the refrigerators and other electrical stuff.
I prefer my beer cold and the lights on! My record is better than So Cal Edison!
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
I earned my living doing technical work in 3RD world countries for 50 years. I think that qualifies ne to compare California’s electrical service to
that of a 3rd world country! Most 3rd world countries beat CA hands down. PG&E kills a lot of people through criminal negligence. It burns down
whole towns. Down south Edison has tons of outages some scheduled and most not. Of course there are the fire danger outages and the flex alerts.
If SDG&E is better and you’re happy fine. Some people are easy to please.
The Brits have drank warm beer for generations because Lucas the prince of darkness makes the refrigerators and other electrical stuff.
I prefer my beer cold and the lights on! My record is better than So Cal Edison! |
Lack of AC in the summer time in Europe is a much bigger issue. Check those hotel reservations closely.
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BajaRat
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What they said
Very cool, look forward to it
Thanks
Lionel 
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RFClark
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JZ,
The French and the Russians don’t have AC! The French idea of heat in the winter is grim. The Russians at least heat their hotel rooms! I never
stayed in a 5 star French hotel with AC. The Club Med (French) idea of AC in the tropics was grim. Very much like a damp cave.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | JZ,
The French and the Russians don’t have AC! The French idea of heat in the winter is grim. The Russians at least heat their hotel rooms! I never
stayed in a 5 star French hotel with AC. The Club Med (French) idea of AC in the tropics was grim. Very much like a damp cave. |
I've been to Paris at least 20 times. You can definitely find hotels with AC.
Sadly, only been to the Moscow Airport.
[Edited on 8-27-2022 by JZ]
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RFClark
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JZ,
Not any of the 5 star left bank places I was put up in! Probably chain hotels run by OTFs have AC. AC or even heat in winter is very not French!
Sad describes the Moscow APO! When I was there a long time ago it was really 3rd world!
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | JZ,
Not any of the 5 star left bank places I was put up in! Probably chain hotels run by OTFs have AC. AC or even heat in winter is very not French!
Sad describes the Moscow APO! When I was there a long time ago it was really 3rd world! |
Tried to go to Russia/Moscow about 15 years ago with a buddy, but the visa process was more difficult than we expected. The r/t ticket was only
$500-600 but the visa was $1K and took a while to get.
My mom is Ukrainian, so probably won't ever go now.
That said, did go to Estonia which was part of the USSR. Man, was that a fun time. We took a ferry from Helsinki. It was like 1.5hrs to cross. My
friend got us on a helicopter ride back. Huge copter that fit about 8 passengers. Took ~19 mins.
We didn't didn't even sleep the night we left. Left the club between 5-6am, packed our bags, and were in the air by 7:30 am. Had a beer stowed away
in my backpack that I drank on the short flight.
[Edited on 8-27-2022 by JZ]
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RFClark
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Moscow October
Me inside the Kremlin next to to the Tsar’s Cannon. (The Russian love of big artillery goes back a long way)
Perhaps the 1st SX-70 picture ever taken there.
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