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[*] posted on 8-28-2022 at 06:14 PM


JZ,

That picture is from October ‘73. I was there as engineering support cause my boss had done SIGINT in the military and said it would be a cold day in hell before he went back on that side of the Iron Curtain again. I was there for a month on that trip. SX-70s were a few months old then.

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 05:34 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Rivian SUV was only 65,000 when it was in pre-order stage, so was a very good price at the time considering the performance and utility features. They've been raising prices since. Try to find a gas SUV equipped similarly that can do what it can for that price.


I was one of the first to order the Rivian, - a whole lot of stuff I really liked - But , I talked to a Rivian engineer, and (probably because it was early in the developmental stage) was very evasive on things like how much it would actually cost, timeframes, lawsuits, . The 65000 was for the base model - you add 4 motors, awd ,longer range , and it looked like it was approaching 90K, but no one was talking.

so I jumped ship and ordered up a Cybertruck instead - better performance - a more established company with a track record of getting vehicles to market, a better understanding of final price -

I suspected i would be waiting a while for the cybertruck, but I'm willing to wait. in the mean time I jumped in early and picked up a Hybrid Ford Maverick - which is a great vehicle for the price, and gets me 41 mpg.



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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 06:00 AM


I saw a Rivian here in Carlsbad the other day.

Let's just say, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Or, "it's got a face only it's mother would love." FUGLY as can be, IMHO.

Saw a couple Ford Mavericks. Looks good to me. Somewhat like a Ranger.

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 07:31 AM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
I saw a Rivian here in Carlsbad the other day.

Let's just say, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Or, "it's got a face only it's mother would love." FUGLY as can be, IMHO.

Saw a couple Ford Mavericks. Looks good to me. Somewhat like a Ranger.

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[Edited on 8-29-2022 by John Harper]


Agree, fugly front end. Those rivian headlights look awful. I don’t see the appeal of such a high priced mini pickup. You can get a really nice full size pickup for less.




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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 08:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Those rivian headlights look awful.


Yes, hideous.

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 08:37 AM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Those rivian headlights look awful.


Yes, hideous.

John


ditto...I think the rest looks pretty good though! but $$$$$ :(




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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 08:55 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Those rivian headlights look awful.


Yes, hideous.

John


ditto...I think the rest looks pretty good though! but $$$$$ :(


It looks like a crudely drawn boxy design done by a 3 year old with crayons. But, I'm not in the market for one.

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 09:55 AM


getting back to EV batteries, they're just gonna get better and better..
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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 01:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Saw a couple Ford Mavericks. Looks good to me.

I can't imagine what they were thinking with that name.

This, my friends is a Maverick:



Well, the Mustang Mach E certainly doesn't look like the one we grew up with, either.

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 02:03 PM


yeah Fords been known to recycle model names...my mexican buddy's ride is a thoroughly rusted out behemoth of a mid 60's F-series truck badged "Ranger"
still running!




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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 02:08 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
yeah Fords been known to recycle model names...my mexican buddy's ride is a thoroughly rusted out behemoth of a mid 60's F-series truck badged "Ranger"
still running!


Yep, I remember the Ranger models of F series trucks.

Somehow, I think the name "Ford Pinto" has been cast into the dustbin of history. Along with the Edsel.

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 02:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
I bet someone $5 that I could get all the Libs on Nomads talking sh!t on the Rivian. You all can be manipulated so easily.

[Edited on 8-29-2022 by JZ]


you're gonna make this political because we don't like the look of the headlights!
whats wrong with you little man?:?:


Like the Rivian and until the front is changed would never consider one. Gob smack ugly.

Why is everything us vs. them with JZ? Always looking for an argument.




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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 04:13 PM


its unanimous......they suck:(
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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 04:22 PM


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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 04:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Verticle Ovals - A Design Innovation


I'm going to have nightmares tonight. What a mess that front end is.

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 04:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
yeah Fords been known to recycle model names...my mexican buddy's ride is a thoroughly rusted out behemoth of a mid 60's F-series truck badged "Ranger"
still running!


Yep, I remember the Ranger models of F series trucks.

Somehow, I think the name "Ford Pinto" has been cast into the dustbin of history. Along with the Edsel.

John

[Edited on 8-29-2022 by John Harper]


I had a Ford Pinto in the late 70s. It didn't explode on me, but it did chew up and spit out a transmission like a piece of bad tobacco.




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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 05:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  
Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
yeah Fords been known to recycle model names...my mexican buddy's ride is a thoroughly rusted out behemoth of a mid 60's F-series truck badged "Ranger"
still running!


Yep, I remember the Ranger models of F series trucks.

Somehow, I think the name "Ford Pinto" has been cast into the dustbin of history. Along with the Edsel.

John

[Edited on 8-29-2022 by John Harper]


I had a Ford Pinto in the late 70s. It didn't explode on me, but it did chew up and spit out a transmission like a piece of bad tobacco.


yeah mexico is where Pinto's and Vega's came to die...in droves
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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 05:27 PM


Weren't Pinto engines popular in sand rails for a while?

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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 05:43 PM


A friend way back when had a sand rail with a Corvair motor. Zoom, zoom, zoom.



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[*] posted on 8-29-2022 at 05:54 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
A friend way back when had a sand rail with a Corvair motor. Zoom, zoom, zoom.


My neighbor in Redondo years ago had a nice 67 Corvair coupe, pretty damn good looking cars IMO. I helped him on the motor. There was a place up by El Segundo that rebuilt turbochargers for them. He didn't have one, but he was thinking of adding it. Seemed like a solid engine, as long as you carried an extra fan belt. But, anyone with a VW knows that too.

Corvairs got a bad rap.

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