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Lee
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  |
Not one political statement was made. We are talking "science, history, and facts."
Why would that upset you?
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Trolls, conspirators (DK/JZ), hanger-ons (Clark) come around spouting misinformation as fact, feigning ignorance when called out.
Blab blab blab. JZ has been spouting this crap for years -- if it's not brain dead, locked down kids, it's libs perpetuating pandemic lies.
Covid a hoax to these clowns.
This thread is about climate change, as much as deniers, who whine about money. Looks like MAGA MAGGOT Republicans to me.
Take it to OT guys. No respect here for your nonsense.
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What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Ateo
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Not one political statement was made. We are talking "science, history, and facts."
Why would that upset you?
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It's your blatant political leanings and political affiliations that are causing you to compulsively troll others on this message board. It causes you
to bump threads that ran out of energy. Don't beat around the bush here........
That is what upsets your fellow members on this board. Heck, I used to do the same things about religious ideas a few years ago when I was inserting
my lack of belief in a God in every thread. It was lame and something that was not appropriate discussing with such a fervor on a Baja message board.
Before posting maybe try thinking "what am I attempting to do with my post? Am I trolling libs on a Baja website?"
I could elaborate but the surf is good..............
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AKgringo
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Yeah, and remember that the original post in this thread was about the sea level in Guaymas.....Like that has something to do with the sea level in
Baja! 
Ok, I admit that I like to troll once in a while also.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | A troll for truth, perhaps?
Predictions are not fact... the government makes all kinds of predictions (you know like this is not inflation, but just "trasitory"). Scientists paid
by the government is just more government and not always real science (the observation and study of events).
While a few of you get all worked up, the rest of us will continue to enjoy the sea right where it is... and still just inches below the palm tree for
80+ years!
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Some of your posts are so right on that I'm amazed. Up to the point where your climate denier attitude kicks in.
Just another conspirator whining about government spending. Cheapskate.
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RFClark
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Lee,
Saying that the “solutions” put forward to “lessen” a problem that has been over 12,000 years in the making likely won’t work and aren’t
even followed by those trying to enforce them on the rest of us isn’t “denying that the climate is changing”. It’s believing that those
“solutions” aren’t really going to solve the problem! It’s also recognizing that putting hypocrites in charge is a bad idea!
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pacificobob
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Not one political statement was made. We are talking "science, history, and facts."
Why would that upset you?
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Trolls, conspirators (DK/JZ), hanger-ons (Clark) come around spouting misinformation as fact, feigning ignorance when called out.
Blab blab blab. JZ has been spouting this crap for years -- if it's not brain dead, locked down kids, it's libs perpetuating pandemic lies.
Covid a hoax to these clowns.
This thread is about climate change, as much as deniers, who whine about money. Looks like MAGA MAGGOT Republicans to me.
Take it to OT guys. No respect here for your nonsense. |
No respect here either.
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RFClark
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PB,
Exactly what “misinformation” would I be spouting? Perhaps that most of those in the US pushing restrictive solutions on others demonstratively
don’t follow them themselves?
Perhaps that they say nothing about poor wild-lands management causing fires that generate more pollution then is eliminated by years of those
restrictions?
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surabi
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Sounds like an oxymarooon to me. Wild lands are exactly that- wild, not "managed".
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JZ
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UCLA study:
"A new analysis led by researchers with the University of California has found the 2020 wildfires in the state put twice as much greenhouse gas
emissions into the Earth’s atmosphere as the total reduction in such pollutants in California between 2003-2019."
https://ph.ucla.edu/news/press-release/2022/oct/ucla-led-stu...
The entire thing is a long con. One day the world is going to freeze over, the next a hole in the ozone is gonna get us all, then they say the seas
will rise and polar bears will starve.
Now we find out a couple forest fires one Fall wiped out 15 years of GHG emission reductions and a several billion of tax spending. 
[Edited on 11-21-2022 by JZ]
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Ateo
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
UCLA study:
"A new analysis led by researchers with the University of California has found the 2020 wildfires in the state put twice as much greenhouse gas
emissions into the Earth’s atmosphere as the total reduction in such pollutants in California between 2003-2019."
https://ph.ucla.edu/news/press-release/2022/oct/ucla-led-stu...
The entire thing is a long con. One day the world is going to freeze over, the next a hole in the ozone is gonna get us all, then they say the seas
will rise and polar bears will starve.
Now we find out a couple forest fires one Fall wipe out 15 years and a couple hundred billion of tax spending.
[Edited on 11-20-2022 by JZ] |
UCLA? WE ALL KNOW that school is full of elite lib-tard scientists and the administration pushes a progressive message!!! I refuse to read such
links! :LOL:
Peace out Nomads. All the best to ya.
[Edited on 11-21-2022 by Ateo]
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RFClark
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S,
Well, you and California agree. That said it’s a little hard on the towns that get burned out and the survivors or families of those killed.
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willardguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
UCLA study:
"A new analysis led by researchers with the University of California has found the 2020 wildfires in the state put twice as much greenhouse gas
emissions into the Earth’s atmosphere as the total reduction in such pollutants in California between 2003-2019."
https://ph.ucla.edu/news/press-release/2022/oct/ucla-led-stu...
The entire thing is a long con. One day the world is going to freeze over, the next a hole in the ozone is gonna get us all, then they say the seas
will rise and polar bears will starve.
Now we find out a couple forest fires one Fall wipe out 15 years and a couple hundred billion of tax spending.
[Edited on 11-20-2022 by JZ] |
a Z**o that learned to stfu! we could use one of those here, way to edit azzhole
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
UCLA study:
"A new analysis led by researchers with the University of California has found the 2020 wildfires in the state put twice as much greenhouse gas
emissions into the Earth’s atmosphere as the total reduction in such pollutants in California between 2003-2019."
https://ph.ucla.edu/news/press-release/2022/oct/ucla-led-stu...
The entire thing is a long con. One day the world is going to freeze over, the next a hole in the ozone is gonna get us all, then they say the seas
will rise and polar bears will starve.
Now we find out a couple forest fires one Fall wipe out 15 years and a couple hundred billion of tax spending.
[Edited on 11-20-2022 by JZ] |
Little man,
Since most fires are caused by man (e.g. elec lines, arson), we to conclude that fires are another GHG source we need to control, just like auto
exhaust emissions.
Not sure your point about fires negates the reasons we need to continue switching to renewable energy.
Woke!
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RFClark
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Goat,
The study proves that if you first don't control the fires, the rest is just a waste of lives, time and money. Not a lot of government or
environmentalists interested in doing anything except regulating other people’s lives yet!
Uncontrolled wildfires are a big issue in the west.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
The study proves that if you first don't control the fires, the rest is just a waste of lives, time and money. Not a lot of government or
environmentalists interested in doing anything except regulating other people’s lives yet!
Uncontrolled wildfires are a big issue in the west. |
I'd love to see Mr. Spock do a video on the importance of controlled burns..
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surabi
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Saying it's pointless to try to cut back on emissions because a forest fire sets things back is like deciding to have a front yard that's just a dirt
patch because a car might go out of control and run onto your lawn and take out all the landscaping.
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willardguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
The study proves that if you first don't control the fires, the rest is just a waste of lives, time and money. Not a lot of government or
environmentalists interested in doing anything except regulating other people’s lives yet!
Uncontrolled wildfires are a big issue in the west. |
I'd love to see Mr. Spock do a video on the importance of controlled burns..
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how can you argue with someone in the trade?
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RFClark
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S,
There are fires in the west almost every year. I don’t think “might” is appropriate! I think that we could do both. Please note that we are not.
PG&E got away with murder, actually a number of murders! Why do you imagine that happened? ($$$)
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Past practices in forest fire management have changed drastically recently in British Columbia. Leading the charge are native ceremonial controlled
burns being reintroduced, reducing the spread of wildfires and creating natural diversity of species. Pine beetle infestations also had created a huge
problem after a century of selective replanting to yield highest value logging.
In addition a large proportion of burned forests are now purposely left to spread for similar reasons.
The foresters knew this decades ago, but unfortunately they were overruled by various governments and their lobbyists.
60% of fires are caused by lightning strikes, and can be managed by fuel control and prescribed burns
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/wildfire-status/wi...
[Edited on 11-21-2022 by JDCanuck]
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I'm shocked to hear this!!
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