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bajaric
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What does Spock have to do with it?
(Vulcanism)
Getting back to Baja, I have been reading a book called Geology and Oil Possibilities, Baja California, by Beal. This was an edited edition of a book
originally written in the 1920's. In it, Beal noted that "terraces" created along the shorelines of ancient seashores were observed to elevations up
to 800 feet above sea level, and scattered recent seashells at much higher elevations (for example, 10 kilometers south of the south end of Bahia
Conception at an elevation of 1425 feet on the pass leading southwest to Comundu)
Beal concluded that there had been a great submergence in recent times, when the ocean rose up and submerged most of Baja. Today, of course, it is
understood that due to plate tectonics land that at one time was under the sea has risen up to its current elevation, bringing the seashells and
marine terraces along with it. This shows how sometimes even the experts get it wrong. I was surprised to learn that the idea of plate tectonics was
only widely accepted in the 1960's.
The book is pretty outdated, though it does have a huge map of Baja that is pretty cool. Mostly just geological gibberish unless you are a geologist.
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RFClark
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Bajaric,
The moving Tectonic plate theory wasn’t accepted until the ‘60s. In the ‘20s the oceans had to rise.
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Cliffy
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As the World Turns (pun intended for those old enough) throughout its history the seas go up and down. Man has had no control over it.
Sea fossils are found in all layers of the Grand Canyon including the top layer of Kaibab Limestone at @ 7000' and as high as 20,000' in Tibet.
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RFClark
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Cliffy,
Think McDonald Carey here! “As sand through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives!”
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Cliffy
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RF
Also one of the oldest and longest running soap operas on TV
Days of Our Lives :-)
The Carey quote was the audio lead in to the TV show.
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RFClark
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Yes,
It was a VO on an art card of an hour glass. Early daytime color transmission on the “Peac-ck” in LA. Required viewing for work.
The RCA color patents worked on the same group of technology as the VOR navigation system with the output as colors rather than degree radials.
Fixing color TVs paid way better than just about any other electronics work at the time (‘60s). It was mostly “FM” in those days.
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[Edited on 1-21-2024 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Cliffy
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I "repaired " many black and white TVs by testing the tubes and replacing same when I was 12 years old. The local TV repair shop was a wonderful stop
for me in those days. Just to look around.
Stretched the IF coil on my little table top tube radio to lower the AM reception freq capability to pick up police calls around 400 KC.
Back to our story- there is only so much "water" contained in the envelope of the earth. It ain't leaving the earth for space any time soon. Its
distribution (and distribution is what we are talking about) around the globe is and has been controlled by forces far greater than man has ever
exerted on the planet and one only has to look into actual history of the available proven records.
I go back to the start of the climate data collection and the realization that even back then the originator of the first hysterical papers had to
retract his assertions because the data was flawed (some by poor records and some by outright falsehoods) but no one remembers that fact.
Seems also that NOAA has satellite photos showing the earth has actually greened up over all due to the increase in CO2. That means more O2 for us to
breathe and more land cover to abate some of the insolation affect of the sun on the earth.
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Mankind can choose to save and respect Mother Earth for the future generations to come.
Mankind can choose to act and has directly changed weather/atmospheric conditions in the past.
Chlorine free choices has mostly repaired the damage to the ozone layer in the southern latitudes from our direct action taken back in the 80's.
I hope mankind will take this lesson to heart for our kids future now.
We can affect earths ability to continue to provide us with a livable planet is the point. We have in the past and hopefully will well into future.
Oh well. Wait for it.
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Surfhat,
The problem is that the lady with the “school Strike” sign only wants to say no and do less to try and solve the problem. Oh yes that and make it
a lot worse before it might begin to get better.
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Cliffy
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POPCORN in hand-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PQ1cOlCJI
I doubt many will watch this to the end.
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Really good video Cliffy! I really like Dr. Curry's approach of not really wanting to be on either political side...just wants truth and science
without dogma. Thank you!
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RFClark
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Climate Madness!
Corrosion Of Conformity: Toyota Takes Aim At EVs With Ammonia Engine.
A historical prospective. This form of NH3 “boils” at -28 degrees. It was one of the original working fluids in home and commercial refrigeration.
It was so toxic that its use in home refrigeration was discontinued with the exception of some RV style refrigerators. The refrigerators had pints not
10s of gallons of NH3 in them.
What are these people thinking?
Anhydrous NH3 is stored under pressure and is deadly to contact or breathe. It also creates a variety of Nx compounds upon combustion. Nx compounds
are bad for the enviroment.
“Anhydrous ammonia may also cause water vapor to condense in the air forming a visible white cloud. Therefore, when anhydrous ammonia is released to
the air, it may travel along the ground in a cloud instead of immediately rising into the air and dispensing. This dense gas behavior may increase the
potential for exposure of workers, responders and the general public.”
“Anhydrous ammonia also is a key ingredient in the illegal production of methamphetamines. Illegal drug makers often steal anhydrous ammonia from
areas where it is stored or used.”
https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-tech/engine/corrosion-of-c...
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Chicago is coming for your gas stoves.
https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbsnews.c...
Murder and smash and grabs in the city are ok, but natural gas is the boogie man?
What happens when the electric grid goes down and people are trying to stay warm in the winter? That electric heater isn't going to do them much
good.
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JZ lies and spouts disinformation yet again. Regulations on new buildings only using electric and no gas does not translate to "coming for your gas
stoves" in the mind of any sane person.
Carbon monoxide and gas leak poisonings and explosions have been an issue for a long time.
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Quote: Originally posted by surabi  | JZ lies and spouts disinformation yet again. Regulations on new buildings only using electric and no gas does not translate to "coming for your gas
stoves" in the mind of any sane person.
Carbon monoxide and gas leak poisonings and explosions have been an issue for a long time.
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If a person wants to buy a new build they will not be able to get gas appliances. And you know how these things work, in the near future Illinois
will ban the sale of gas appliances.
So yeah, that is the govt. coming for your gas stoves.
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"Coming for your gas stove" means coming to take an appliance you already own away. Not that new builds will only have electric stoves or that new gas
stove sales will be phased out.
Funny watching you tie yourself in knots trying to claim that English wordsmean something other than they do.
When all new cars were required to be equipped with seat belts and air bags, due to safety concerns, no one started claiming that the govt. was coming
to take away their cars. Insanity and disinformation, and trying to make health and safety regulations a political issue
didn't used to be so prevalent.
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[Edited on 1-24-2024 by surabi]
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Berkeley can’t enforce natural gas ban, federal court rules again
Who’s twisting words in knots. The 9th Circuit says it’s the home gas banners not the gas appliance users.
In July 2021, a federal district court judge dismissed the lawsuit. The CRA challenged that decision, and on Monday a three-judge panel on the U.S.
Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit unanimously ruled in favor of reversing that dismissal, deciding that Berkeley had overstepped its authority.
The ruling was first reported by Bloomberg Law.
“By completely prohibiting the installation of natural gas piping within newly constructed buildings, the City of Berkeley has waded into a domain
preempted by Congress,” wrote Judge Patrick J. Bumatay, one of two Trump appointees on the randomly assigned panel. (The third was a Reagan
appointee.) Bumatay wrote that the Energy Policy and Conservation Act, or EPCA, preempts state and local regulations concerning the energy use of
natural gas appliances.
When first creating the legislation, Berkeley sought to circumvent the EPCA by passing a building code prohibiting permits for new natural gas piping,
as opposed to enacting a ban on the appliances themselves. But the court ruled that the scope of the EPCA goes beyond the regulation of natural gas
devices — it also encompasses the building codes which regulate natural gas use.
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The gold hydrogen rush: Does Earth contain near-limitless clean fuel?
Proponents of using this form of hydrogen say it could dramatically accelerate our transition to net zero, which explains why researchers and
start-ups are prospecting for it far and wide. Many questions remain, though, not least how much of it there really is and whether it can be easily
tapped.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26134760-500-the-gold...
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Whole flocking planet will go to hell!
Critical Atlantic Ocean current system is showing early signs of collapse, prompting warning from scientists
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/09/climate/atlantic-circulat...
Woke!
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