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mtgoat666
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How many people must die so gringos can get cheap goods from china, cheap goods from india, cheap power for their big screen TVs and pool pumps?
[Edited on 3-24-2024 by mtgoat666]
[Edited on 3-24-2024 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  | How many people must die so gringos can get cheap goods from china, cheap goods from india, cheap power for their big screen TVs and pool pumps?
[Edited on 3-24-2024 by mtgoat666]
[Edited on 3-24-2024 by mtgoat666] |
As if you really care. So hypocritical....
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Goat,
How many Brits, Germans and Poles died mining coal? Plus the Chinese, Russians and Indians. Not for the U.S. but themselves?
Remember John L. Lewis? A great union leader. Who made the U.S. coal miners a great deal!
Your problem is you’re a the “glass is half empty” sort of goat!
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US 41
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This thread honestly needs to be locked and deleted. One of the biggest reasons I don't ever get on here that much is because everything turns into
some stupid political debate. This is supposed to be a Baja travel related site. Where's the moderators?
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| Quote: Originally posted by US 41 | | This thread honestly needs to be locked and deleted. One of the biggest reasons I don't ever get on here that much is because everything turns into
some stupid political debate. This is supposed to be a Baja travel related site. Where's the moderators? |
Actually, this thread has had hundreds of responses deleted over its duration. I am just guessing, but I think Doug leaves it up to act as bait for
those who just can't resist going off topic.
Hopefully it will spare some of the other Baja relevant threads from rants.
[Edited on 3-25-2024 by AKgringo]
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RFClark
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The topic here is more or less about climate change. Climate change has more or less a “Political Component” to it. That said discussing and
posting current thinking on the subject is of value as weather does effect Baja California.
That “Component” varies widely depending on where you live and what you believe.
There probably is a “lighting rod” effect here as well. That is probably a “Good Thing”!
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US 41
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | The topic here is more or less about climate change. Climate change has more or less a “Political Component” to it. That said discussing and
posting current thinking on the subject is of value as weather does effect Baja California.
That “Component” varies widely depending on where you live and what you believe.
There probably is a “lighting rod” effect here as well. That is probably a “Good Thing”! |
This thread should be moved to the Baja political section of the board at a minimum. The Hindenburg, Greta Thornburg, and coal miners have nothing to
do whatsoever with Baja California. This thread has completely derailed and has nothing to do with the weather.
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surabi
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Where does it say it's only a Baja "travel related" site?
I see sections on all kinds of things, including non-Baja trip reports, Baja politics, Baja home building, a general Q and A section, which contains
questions about many non-travel related things.
And climate change is affected by and affects travel.
[Edited on 3-25-2024 by surabi]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by US 41 | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | The topic here is more or less about climate change. Climate change has more or less a “Political Component” to it. That said discussing and
posting current thinking on the subject is of value as weather does effect Baja California.
That “Component” varies widely depending on where you live and what you believe.
There probably is a “lighting rod” effect here as well. That is probably a “Good Thing”! |
This thread should be moved to the Baja political section of the board at a minimum. The Hindenburg, Greta Thornburg, and coal miners have nothing to
do whatsoever with Baja California. This thread has completely derailed and has nothing to do with the weather. |
If you don't like this thread, then scroll on by, ignore it, do not read it. Problem solved!
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Exercise regularly. Eat sensibly. Die anyway.
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New desalinization technology:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/innovative-sola...
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What is the relevance to this thread?
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Uh-oh.
March 30, 2024
Climate Activists Dragged Out of New York Auto Show After Tossing Oil on EV
https://autos.yahoo.com/climate-activists-dragged-york-auto-...
A group of climate change activists poured quarts of oil on the floor and on vehicles at the opening day of the New York International Auto Show on
Saturday morning. In an unusual twist, the protesters were speaking out against electric vehicles and really, all cars.
Extinction Rebellion, a U.K.-based activist group, took credit for the disruption today. Wearing t-shirts bearing the words “No EVs on a dead
planet,” the protesters interrupted the opening ceremony by tossing oil on the hood of a Ford F-150 Lightning and all over the stage. Yelling “hit
the emergency brake!” one of the protesters was seen carrying a Toyota swag bag, ironically
The climate activists claim that building EVs is as carbon-intensive, if not more so, than that of gas-powered cars. They believe cars “damage the
climate in many ways above and beyond their gas consumption.”
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Interesting climate protest.
https://x.com/stillgray/status/1776831205826232580
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Lunar nodal tide and mean sea level variation
Sea level changes due to the lunar node tide can amount to a few tenths of millimeters per year, which is significant compared to the sea level rise
due to global warming. These changes can lead to local over- or underestimated long-term trends in sea level, and therefore should be considered when
analyzing observational records to detect possible trend breaks[13]. While there are arguments suggesting that the theoretical equilibrium tide should
adequately represent the lunar nodal tide[15], analyses of tide gauge records question this assumption[13][14][16]. Woodworth (2012[17]) identified
several potential causes for departures from equilibrium theory but determining the best method to correct for the effect of the nodal tide on the
mean sea level is still a topic of ongoing discussion.
https://www.coastalwiki.org/wiki/Long-period_lunar_tides
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Very interesting article to those who actually read it
I'd postulate that any "model" on sea level rise is just a guess without actual observation over a protracted period of time say 100 years.
You've got two 18.6 year cycles (with shorter ones included) to contend with and nothing but empirical data can prove or disprove any "guess" of what
is actually happening to ocean levels over time.
A very important cut from the article is as below-(as was noted in the preceding post) but needs to be emphasized-
Impact of the lunar node cycle on coastal and marine processes
The lunar node cycle influences coastal processes that are regulated or modulated by tides. Because of the long periodicity, the influence of the
lunar node cycle is easily confused with a change in long term trends.
And no one is going to be flooded out within 100 years, period.
Its still the Chicken Little Syndrome
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A question about global differences in sea level...
If sea level rises as much as some theories predict, wont, the effects be greater in equatorial regions vs sub polar regions due to the centrifugal
effect of the rotation of the earth?
[Edited on 4-7-2024 by AKgringo]
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You deniers need to look beyond yourselves and your very local areas, and the planet as a whole, to see the broader picture of man's impact on the
planets ability to survive what we continue to dump upon her.
How anyone can deny that certain regions are being directly impacted by our demand for fossil fuels is like putting your head in the ground and
saying, don't bother telling me Mother Nature is at risk because of our negligence.
Just wait for the expected expected responses from the Usual Suspects. haha
They never miss a chance to show their ................ grrrr.
Does mankind have the ability to directly affect the climate? Anyone who denies that is a dinosaur.
For one example of when mankind, the world over, came together in a concerted effort change the climate, one only has to look back to then 80's when
mankind came together and banned CFC's. The ozone hole in the southern latitudes has been mitigated because of this coming together.
For this action alone, I still hold hope for our future generations to enjoy what we have been given.
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Yeah, hairspray was causing the depletion of the ozone. And eliminating puffy 80's hair is what made the world a better place.
As for palm trees-
If you take a look at the globe, you will see how absurd your alarmist view is about rising tides. There is a finite amount of water on the planet. It
gets redistributed in the form of rain, snow, ice and underground aquifers. Never does the total volume change. But keep on insulting everyone that
disagrees with you.
Very productive discussion
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