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RFClark
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Posted because if you read all the words there are 11 year cycles in this phenomenon that also effect cloud formation (climate) that as yet can’t be
linked to a source of the cycles.
https://www.earth.com/news/breakthrough-surges-of-cosmic-rad...
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Well, so much for global warming.
Las Vegas has had 280+ days w/o hitting 100. And in a few days, based on the current forecast, will beat the all-time record set some 60 years ago.
The climate crisis is a top 5 grift of all time.
[Edited on 6-17-2023 by JZ]
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Las Vegas is not the center of the universe from which all climate change is measured, JZ. You post the most absurd things in trying to deny the
man-made climate change crisis. It's over 100 degrees in many places around the world which have never before experienced those temps.
Just be honest and speak the truth- you don't care at all about the climate crisis unless it affects you directly. Everything else is just a vehicle
for you to bash those who are trying to work towards solutions.
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You be honest your bunch doesn’t have a plan to stop the increases let alone reverse them. They don’t have a plan to stop the destruction the
Russians are causing to the environment either. Then there are the Indians and the Chinese certainly no plan there!
[Edited on 6-17-2023 by RFClark]
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  |
They don’t have a plan to stop the destruction the Russians are causing to the environment either. Then there are the Indians and the Chinese
certainly no plan there!
[Edited on 6-17-2023 by RFClark] |
Are you making the argument that since there are those that don't do the right thing, nobody should?
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SF&H,
No, I do my part now. I do it because it not only cleans up the place it saves resources. I’m not saying there isn’t any problem. I’m pointing
out to some who take this as a religion that only dealing with part of the problem won’t, in the end, solve any of the problem.
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SH&F,
According to the best Climate minds if we don't reverse, not slow down, but reverse emissions in a few years it will be too late to stop the disaster.
What is currently proposed won't accomplish that. Either force the global worst offenders to get on board or stop singling out North America and
Europe to do the heavy lifting which even if completely done won't save the world.
We all breath the same air. It’s everyone’s problem not just ours.
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So North America and Europe shouldn't do all that is reasonable because other countries aren't playing ball?
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | So North America and Europe shouldn't do all that is reasonable because other countries aren't playing ball? |
Until Nuclear is taken seriously this is just one big waste of time.
Blackrock pressured Chevron to not take on a project because of emissions standards. The project is now moving forward with PetroChina. Blackrock
has a significant investment stake in PetroChina.
EV's will help with air quality in big cities, but very little otherwise.
If you don't know this is about money, control, and power you are very, very naive.
[Edited on 6-18-2023 by JZ]
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SH&F,
No, NA & E should take it seriously and besides “doing the right thing” force others to also do the “right thing”.
“Power flows down the barrel of a gun” Mao Zedong
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Until Nuclear is taken seriously this is just one big waste of time.
If you don't know this is about money.......
[Edited on 6-18-2023 by JZ] |
Money is why nuclear plants aren't being built. They're extremely expensive to build, and it takes a long time.
Fossil fuel plants require a much smaller capital investment and yield a quicker return on investment.
You're right, it's all about money.
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SH&F,
If true the people with money will do fine. Those w/o won’t which will also solve the problem.
That may sound harsh but “Lifeboat rules” apply here. The Russians and Iranians won’t stop selling oil until they run out. The Chinese and
Indians ditto for both oil and coal.
A nuclear war will also solve the problem.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Until Nuclear is taken seriously this is just one big waste of time.
If you don't know this is about money.......
[Edited on 6-18-2023 by JZ] |
Money is why nuclear plants aren't being built. They're extremely expensive to build, and it takes a long time.
Fossil fuel plants require a much smaller capital investment and yield a quicker return on investment.
You're right, it's all about money. |
The Govt. spends a lot of money. They should help with Nuclear investments. This is much better for the planet than solar and wind farms.
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Here are the top 5 CO2 emitters, 2016 data. The number is tons per person. Maybe the US could do better.
1 China 7.38
2 United States 15.52
3 India 1.91
4 Russia 11.44
5 Japan 9.70
https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-pe...
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Top 10 CO2-emitting countries in the world (Total CO2 in Mt) - EU JRC 2020
China — 11680.42
United States — 4535.30
India — 2411.73
Russia — 1674.23
Japan — 1061.77
Iran — 690.24
Germany — 636.88
South Korea — 621.47
Saudi Arabia — 588.81
Indonesia — 568.27
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Top 10 CO2-emitting countries in the world (Total CO2 in Mt) - EU JRC 2020
China — 11680.42
United States — 4535.30
India — 2411.73
Russia — 1674.23
Japan — 1061.77
Iran — 690.24
Germany — 636.88
South Korea — 621.47
Saudi Arabia — 588.81
Indonesia — 568.27 |
Looking at CO2 per capita is better than total emissions. There are 1.4 billion people in China and it's industrialized, of course it's on top in
total emissions.
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SF&H,
Total emissions are what heats up the world. China’s are twice ours and that doesn’t include ag burning.
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JZ - don't forget your hero and savior............
Musk's carbon footprint from his 171 private flights in 2022 was 132 times the size of the average US resident's total annual footprint from all
activities, the report found. His private plane burned about 221,358 gallons of jet fuel and emitted about 2,112 metric tons of carbon emissions last
year, the report found.
-Business Insider May 2, 2023
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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| Quote: Originally posted by elgatoloco | JZ - don't forget your hero and savior............
Musk's carbon footprint from his 171 private flights in 2022 was 132 times the size of the average US resident's total annual footprint from all
activities, the report found. His private plane burned about 221,358 gallons of jet fuel and emitted about 2,112 metric tons of carbon emissions last
year, the report found.
-Business Insider May 2, 2023
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Half pint focuses on a few people flying private jets - he can’t see the forest for the trees.
People in Texas get it. Not everyone is brainwashed idiot…
Even in Texas, You Can’t Stop the Green Revolution
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/14/opinion/texas-green-revol...
Texans are catching the green new wave
Woke!
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JZ,
Musk unlike “Swift Boat” actually does something useful in his travels.
I’d trade “Swift Boat and Hanoi Jane” for another Musk any day.
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