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Lee
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | SF&H,
I have no idea how old you are but, I’m old enough to have lived through and listened to “my betters” tell me that Communism was the
“inevitable future” and the rest of us were just saving their parking place. However did that turn out?
I was also raised on the idea that if the US didn't allow the Russians and Chinese to have their way we’d all die in an awful nuclear war. Ever read
a chit book called “On The Beach” I think it was also a chit movie. Both based on junk Science. The LA Times, a junk “news outlet” serialized
“On The Beach” to scare the chit out of everyone back when it was written in the ‘50s.
Then there were the “Drop Drills” and air raid siren tests at 10:00AM on the 3rd or last Friday of the month. Guess when the bad guys would have
attacked?
There were at 3-4 news flashes over the years that we had found all the oil in the world and that “the end was neigh” because there was no more
oil.
Some of these “learned pronouncements” were from the same bunch who clung to the notion that continents couldn’t possibly move as they were way
too big.
However did all of that and more turn out?
I could go on for hours in the same vain but you get the idea.
75+ years of that tends to bring out the skeptic in a person. It also makes you hold on to your wallet when yet another “the end of the world is
coming because —————-. (Insert reason here)! |
Interesting but boring. Scratching my head wondering who gives a chit. Just outed yourself. Skeptic and a tightwad.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | SF&H,
I have no idea how old you are but, I’m old enough to have lived through...
75+ years of that tends to bring out the skeptic in a person. It also makes you hold on to your wallet when yet another “the end of the world is
coming because —————-. (Insert reason here)! |
Funny how so many of us lived through the same things, yet didn't turn out with attitudes like yours.
Don't try to rationalize your mind set on your age or the generation you grew up in. It has nothing to do with that.
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RFClark
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S,
Most of the Technical and Engineering people I know have worse attitudes than mine. I find nothing wrong with requiring authority to show me the proof
for what ever. science is not about belief. It’s about the best facts you can get. That said it’s ofter wrong!
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surabi
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"Science is not about belief". Gee, thanks for mansplaining that. What a revelation. Make sure to let the majority of the world's top climate
scientists in on that.
Obviously most of the Technical and Engineering people you know are simply those you chose to hang out with. Most of the Technical and Engineering
people I know are liberals.
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RFClark
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Lee,
The guy who designed the Tacoma Narrows bridge was an optimist as were the guys who did the protection and backup systems for the Japanese nuclear
plant disaster.
S,
Being there Stoned isn’t the same as being there. Still no answers from you just snark!
[Edited on 6-22-2023 by RFClark]
[Edited on 6-22-2023 by RFClark]
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surabi
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"Being there stoned" isn't snark? I can assure you, I was never stoned. Weed has never been my thing.
What answers? I'm not a climate scientist. Nor do I spend my time coming up with all kinds of reasons why initiatives to mitigate climate change are
pointless. I do what I can in my own life not to contribute to what is ultimately bad for the planet and life on it, which is all most of us can do.
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Dogs will become more ‘hostile’ to humans as the planet heats up
https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/06/19/dogs-could-become-...
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Don Pisto
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swell more angry animals! Orcas, bears, crocs, seems they've all had it with us! here ya go more on dogs.....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/having-three-dogs-bad-environment...
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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JZ
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Oh ffs. Fast forward a few years and you know these loons will be trying to ban dogs to satisfy their Climate Crisis God. It never ends.
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surabi
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Researching and documenting how much carbon footprint pets create is no different from you talking about how forest fires negate other reductions in
CO.
Information does not equal plans to ban anything. Typical right wing scare mongering. "They're coming to take your guns!" "They're coming to take your
gas stove!" "They're coming to take your gasoline-fueled vehicles!" "They're coming to take your pets!" "They're trying to turn your children gay!"
"They're trying to eliminate white people!" "They're killing full term babies!"
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Well THEY are!
Some just can see the forest for the trees
You chose your position in life today by what YOU did yesterday
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Information does not equal plans to ban anything. Typical right wing scare mongering. "They're coming to take your guns!" "They're coming to take your
gas stove!" "They're coming to take your gasoline-fueled vehicles!" "They're coming to take your pets!" "They're trying to turn your children gay!"
"They're trying to eliminate white people!" "They're killing full term babies!"
[Edited on 6-22-2023 by surabi][/rquote]
S,
That's a pretty good summation of your and the left's intensions if those GOP, Trump-loving conservatives would just get out of our way. Thanks for
the clarification.
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surabi
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Nice confirmation that Cliffy and Lobsterman and RrFClark are gullible conspiracy theorists subscribing to baseless fears concocted by social media
manipulators and idiots.
[Edited on 6-23-2023 by surabi]
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Nice confirmation that Cliffy and Lobsterman are gullible conspiracy theorists subscribing to baseless fears concocted by social media manipulators
and idiots. |
Conspiracy theorists? That's exactly what your kind labeled people who were suggesting Covid came from a lab leak. How is that looking now?
This is South Park from 8 years ago.
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surabi
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"That's exactly what your kind labeled people who were suggesting Covid came from a lab leak."
None of "my kind" labelled people conspiracy theorists who "suggested" Covid came from a lab leak. No one knew where it came from, and lab leak was
always one of the possibilities. Always seemed highly plausible to me, considering it seemed to originate in a city where there are multiple
biological labs.
The people who got labelled conspiracy theorists are the ones who "know for sure", without any proof or any training in science, who wouldn't have the
first clue about how to scientifically investigate anything. Complete with more conspiracy theories regarding it purposely being let loose, how it's
covered-up, how Fauci created Covid to control people, etc. ad nauseum.
There's a vast difference between there being a lot of theories that need to be investigated, and claiming that something is undeniably true simply
because it's what you happen to believe. You obviously haven't learned that yet. "Suggesting" that something could be possible has nothing to do with
falling for, or starting, conspiracy theories.
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RFClark
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S,
So what is it called when a not-man person mansplains? Gullible? You’re the one who believes SwiftBoat.
You still won’t acknowledge that the difference between our positions on climate change is what you are pushing won’t solve the problem because it
fails to address the source of the problem.
China out pollutes the next 6 countries on the top 10 list!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | S,
So what is it called when a not-man person mansplains? Gullible? You’re the one who believes SwiftBoat.
You still won’t acknowledge that the difference between our positions on climate change is what you are pushing won’t solve the problem because it
fails to address the source of the problem.
China out pollutes the next 6 countries on the top 10 list! |
Why you calling him swiftboat? Kerry volunteered and served in combat - 3 Purple Hearts, bronze star, silver star. Your party (cult) leader Trump
faked bone spurs to avoid draft. You chicken hawks and desk-jockey veterans are nothing compared to Kerry.
[Edited on 6-23-2023 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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surabi
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First of all, using deragatory nicknames for people makes you look like you have nothing to say. It's what bullies and jerks do to discredit those
they don't agree with, because they have no actual cogent arguments. It's incredibly childish.
Secondly, I have never read or listened to anything from John Kerry, so it would be rather impossible for me to "believe" him.
Thirdly, you still don't get it that every little bit helps when it comes to solving problems. You keep using heavy polluters to justify the
pointlessness of anyone else doing anything to mitigate climate change.
If your neighbors burn plastic garbage in their yard, do you think, "Oh well, I might as well burn my plastic garbage, too, it'll save me a trip to
the dump."?
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RFClark
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S,
Respect is earned not deeded. Names, Oh, you mean like goat and others here do. No, I think my carbon footprint is probably lower then yours
especially if you are hooked up to CFE. We also recycle most of our water and drive on solar power.
You can shuffle around the deckchairs to your hearts content. It won’t save the ship cause it’s not enough.
Note, I’m not saying stop, I’m saying grow a pair and make the other guys do it too! We both know that’s not going to happen.
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RFClark
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Goat,
I’m just a “grasshopper” and I have but a single bottle of ketchup to my name. That said I do know some real heros! My cousin who died near
Bastogne in January 1945 as well as the people I grew up with who fought across the pacific in WW2. Or my other cousin who fought in Korea. They are
the real heros
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