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[*] posted on 8-25-2021 at 10:33 AM


When/if the bank asks for a current original and copy of CFE and SAPA it doesn't need to be yours nor in your name?@#$%! It's sounds odd. So, it helps to have a friend with bills if you don't have them, they often also ask for list of 2-3 local references with names and phone numbers and they will call. So, prepare these items when you go to the bank just in case. Have some efectivo money to deposit to begin the account.

You may ask/call/email Intercam for requirements

Make a folder or plastic bag with the following for your trip to the bank

1)Your passport ID and copy, an address where you can receive mail in Baja
2) List of references names and phone numbers of people who can confirm they know you as a friend or relation
3) Current Original and Copy of CFE/SAPA, you can return the bills (Cobrabante) to the owner when you are done
4) FMM or resident visa

Here is a reference of requirements that seems accurate
https://www.psimonmyway.com/open-a-bank-account-in-mexico/



[Edited on 8-25-2021 by gnukid]
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[*] posted on 8-25-2021 at 03:24 PM


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[*] posted on 8-25-2021 at 05:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Howard  
I Western Union money to my gardener when I am not there. Very easy to do on the computer and he goes into any number of places to pick it up. The charge was rather nominal.

I wonder if you could send it to yourself? The name as to who you send it to must match 100% to the ID they present for pick up.

Google Western Union and see the rules. I do not know if there is a maximum.


We have awful problems with Western Union in the village...it was the only ATM machine for Bancomer & Banamex but now it doesn't take Bancomer any more which is what most people have here.
The other issue is it is often without much money in the kitty...sometimes they limit withdrawals to 2,000 pesos so if you send money this way send it in small limits no larger than 5,000 pesos.
AFter waiting in a long line, then the internet goes down...never ending issues there.
My guests & expats sending $ to Mexican bank account use Wise.com




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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 09:18 AM


Just sent cash to my relatives via Western Union and found the combined currency loss and transfer fee came to about 7%. Having my relatives open a new bank account in their name and then using XE Transfer to send them money to pay taxes and utilities at the local OXXO. Costs are now about 0.5% percent(no fee but 0.5% spread off the exchange midpoint) but still a significant hassle for them to pay bills locally.
Will definitely look into Intercam and a local credit card when I am next down there....Thanks Gnukid




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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 09:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by shari  

My guests & expats sending $ to Mexican bank account use Wise.com


I've had success using the following for international money transfers:
https://www.moneygram.com

Fees seem to be lower than other services - at least for the countries I've chosen to compare.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 10:08 AM


Transferwise, now called Wise? Bank account to bank account, fast, efficient, and cheap.

Keep in mind, cash withdrawals are limited due to money laundering regulations.

Smaller amounts, Western Union, cheaper to send to Mexico, than within the U.S.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 10:57 AM


Transferwise, (Wise), dollar account, (NOB) to dollar account, (SOB).

Problem is withdrawals are limited per month, not the amount sent. Withdrawals from said account can be made with a corresponding debit card, requesting pesos, (uncertain if there is a limit here), decline their conversion rate.

If checks are accepted, write a check from same dollar account, no limit.

In addition, Charles Schwab debit card. Between all the options......
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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 11:12 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo  
Transferwise, now called Wise? Bank account to bank account, fast, efficient, and cheap.

Keep in mind, cash withdrawals are limited due to money laundering regulations.

Smaller amounts, Western Union, cheaper to send to Mexico, than within the U.S.


The problem I found with Western Union was the (warnings in fine print) exchange rate they gave. I got 16.10 pesos per CAD at XE Transfer and no fees, giving me 16,100 pesos for 1000 CAD and only 15.44 through Western union giving me 15,446 pesos for 1015 CAD within minutes of each other. I found similar really poor exchange rates on wires from my bank, running about the same as Western Union. Advantage to Western Union is it was extremely fast.

Best way to do this comparison is momentary quotes comparing senders which both XE and Wise provide,
Just tried that and XE took the top rating with 15,998 pesos or 15,880 using Wise. Altho Wise gave a slightly better exchange rate, the fees deducted from source funds yielded less at the target account.





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Just tried that and XE took the top rating with 15,998 pesos or 15,880 using Wise. Altho Wise gave a slightly better exchange rate, the fees deducted from source funds yielded less at the target account.

Dollar account to dollar account, no exchange rate.


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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 03:56 PM


U.S. Dollar account in Mexico impossible for non residents!
Residente Permanente status a must to open a USD account.
And a current tax I.D. U.S.
And a current tax I.D. Mexico.
and much more.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 04:26 PM


Not sure where you are building but we have an account with Intercam they have been great. I lease my property, so we showed them a copy of the lease and got a "recommendation" from our landowner. I'm assuming if your contractor has a good rep in town, he could be your referral. When we get to town we deposit and American check into our account and have access to pasos withing a few hours.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 05:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo  


Dollar account to dollar account, no exchange rate.




You have a USD account in Mexico Cancamo? Or do you mean a transfer within Mexico of Mxn dollars? I was wondering if it was possible to open a USD account in Mexico for a Mexican citizen and what it might entail.? In that case i could just send to a USD account in Mexico from my USD account here in Canada and not have to worry about exchange rates.

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[*] posted on 2-11-2022 at 08:48 PM


You have a USD account in Mexico Cancamo? Or do you mean a transfer within Mexico of Mxn dollars? I was wondering if it was possible to open a USD account in Mexico for a Mexican citizen and what it might entail.? In that case i could just send to a USD account in Mexico from my USD account here in Canada and not have to worry about exchange rates.

[Edited on 2-12-2022 by JDCanuck]

Yep, Yep, to all the above; dollar checking account with a corresponding credit card, peso account with a debit card. Have had both well over 20 years with Banorte, (they were Bancrecer? back then). Never been asked for US TIN, or Mexican Tax Id, although I have both. Must have opened accounts before regs took place.


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[*] posted on 2-12-2022 at 01:14 PM


For Other Canadians: Tried to set up a Transferwise (Wise) account to send pesos to a Mexican account from Canadian account but does not support international transfers to other countries from Canada. Try XE as an alternative as they do support transfers from Canada to Mexico accounts.



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[*] posted on 2-12-2022 at 07:58 PM


Exactly!

On many occasions, the Mexican banks lose a connection to the US banks, and therefore will not be able to take out money.

It has happened to me several times.

I would never open a Mexican bank account. Even Mexican citizens don't have any rights when it comes to banking. I have known dozens of people who lost $thousands and had no recourse. I have a neighbor who lost tens of thousands to an employee at a Mexican bank who did an identity theft on them (Mexicans). The bank would not even release the employee's name to my neighbor and the person is still working at the bank!

The Mexican banks are worse than the IRS in the USA.

In the USA, I opened a banking account with a Mexican bank. After 5 years, the Mexican government closed all the USA branches of that bank. The few hundred USD I had in there were gone when they closed. I had it for money transfer convenience. Now I have an ATM with no foreign transfer fees and no withdrawal fees in Mexico.

I currently use ZELLE or PAYPAL to pay contractors.

[quote=1219010&tid=96479&author=Bob and Susan]but the mexican bank will limit you to lets say 7000 pesos a day
the american bank can be unlimited
you just cant get your money


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
Using a Schwab checking account you can withdraw from any ATM and get current rates with no fees. Calling Schwab or sending a letter can open up withdraw limits to whatever you want so you can withdraw $US 4,000 per day or more,... [/rquote]




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[*] posted on 2-12-2022 at 08:42 PM


I have had both dollar and peso accounts for years. Never had any issues.
One just needs to learn how banking works here.
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