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freediverbrian
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The suv being towed is a Lexus Toyotas big brother.
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Maderita
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This info applies to the state of Baja California, not BCS. In recent years, BC changed their emergency phone number to "911". There is protocol to
have an English speaking dispatcher on duty.
The emergency radio channel for FRS (family Radio Service, such as Motorola Talkabouts) is Channel 7, subchannel 7 for communication with air and
ground rescue at/near the site.
When in northern BC, here are lists of emergency numbers.
The "Rescate Aguiluchos" rescue team handles a lot of situations in the northern desert and mountains (Laguna Salada, Sierra de Juarez). The Bomberos
firefighter/rescue are also doing a lot. Equipment and training for technical situations has improved in recent years.
The Office of Civil Protection (Protección Civil) is instrumental in coordinating larger, more complex, search & rescue operations and can
arrange for a military air rescue helicopter.
http://www.proteccioncivilbc.gob.mx/
https://proteccioncivil.tijuana.gob.mx/
https://www.facebook.com/dmpctj/
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aburruss
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Great info!!!
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BajaMama
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Mood: Got Baja fever!!
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I love the idea of community resources to contact assistance.
Max Trax are good, too  . So is reverse. I have seen peeps refuse to use that
gear when it is the best option.
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pacificobob
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Man-up, get out the shovel and start working.
That said i have taken some long hikes after breaking something in some lonesome country
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PaulW
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None of the great contacts that Maderita posted are functional without phone service. Having said that I will save and print the phone list just in
case .
What is needed is an email address that can be used on your satelite tracker using either the new SPOT and most models of Inreach.
There needs to be two lists
1) For real emergencies that need medical attention
2) For general help like broken rig or stuck in the sand.
The only email for real emergencies (list #1) I have in my Inreach is the for Hwy 1 to Guerrero negro
They respond to emergencies, but NOT general help like stuck in the sand or vehicle breakdown.
Desert Falcons DesertHawks info@halconesdeldesierto.org
Antonio Baja Cactus info@bajacactus.com
What is needed for other places is an email list of Nomad volunteers
Who will volunteer to make the lists and allow the rest of us to get a U2U private message to carry with us or input into the contact list on our
trackers.
For list #2
For San Felipe during the winter months from Mexicali to way south I can contact at bunch of off-roaders to show up in the time it takes to drive to
you.
For list #1
Use the Maderita list of phones
List #2 can still be used to used to make the call using the Maderita phone list
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BajaGringo
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Mood: Let's have a BBQ!
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Lots of folks get stuck in the soft sand out here nearby on the beaches west of San Quintin where we live and many of them call or message me via
facebook for help. I have pulled so many people out that I just keep my tow strap and gear with a small shovel onboard wherever I go.
Most people would never have gotten stuck if they had simply aired down before hitting the soft sand but I'm always glad to help...
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PaulW
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BTW - the FRS channel 7 (462.7125) noted in the Maderita message is 2 watt channel. I have that freq programmed in my 80 watt radio, but nobody with a
FRS radio will be able to respond unless they are close by. They probably will hear me. FRS is designed for car to car conversation and has little
range - maybe a mile or less?
The result if I transmit on that freq it would be like shouting out loud in the desert.
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pacificobob
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If not prepared to get yourself unstuck, one should entertain the notion of
Staying on the pavement.
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John Harper
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I think the JAGAZ probably means some kind of catastrophic failure: engine, transmission, drivetrain. or suspension? Who knows.
John
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SFandH
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That's the advice I follow these days. 
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BornFisher
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Or get out of the sand like this guy-----
https://youtu.be/_9mmajFmVcc
"When you catch a fish, you open the door of happiness."
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David K
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It is all about air pressure! Never spin the tires if you stop moving forward as the only direction you will now move is down!
Even 2WDs or no rear lockers... you just need to let out more air than the guy in Dubai with his rear-locked 4WD... go down to around 10 psi in all 4
tires even if you are a 2WD. Do not drive fast, turn sharp, or slam the brakes when deflated. After you drive out of the sand, re-inflate!
This is why every Baja bound vehicle should have an air pump on board (and with a tire plug kit, fix flats, too).
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Bajazly
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His first deflation method is just asking for the valve stem to be rocketed into the sand never to be seen again.
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
Harald Pietschmann
"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
Bajazly, August 2019
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TMW
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It didn't hurt to have all 4 wheels locked. He should try it in a two wheel drive truck without a locker.
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  | | It didn't hurt to have all 4 wheels locked. He should try it in a two wheel drive truck without a locker. |
He didn't even get his dishdasha dirty!
John
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly |
His first deflation method is just asking for the valve stem to be rocketed into the sand never to be seen again. |
I've got the ones you screw on and they deflate to a preset psi.
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Bajazly
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Those are ok but don't stay calibrated very well. This type you have the ability to go to whatever pressure you want and it keeps the valve stem
inside the body so it can't get dropped in the sand.
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
Harald Pietschmann
"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
Bajazly, August 2019
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JZ
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I like to screw them on all 4 tires and drink a beer while they do their thing.
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John Harper
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It's the "valve core" not the valve stem. I posted a video on Google Classroom and assigned notes due tomorrow. I sometimes use the same method as
JZ, including the beer. Key to the whole procedure!
John
[Edited on 9-21-2021 by John Harper]
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