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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 06:58 AM
Canada/US border finally to open, early Nov....


I am not anti-vax, in fact I just got round three of what Pfizer brewed up. I think that anyone who could show proof of recovery, and a very recent negative test should be free to move about the country!

It looks like only those who are sent to secondary will have to show proof of vaccination;

"Foreign visitors crossing into the United States by land or ferry will need to be vaccinated but will not necessarily need to show proof of vaccination unless they are referred by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol for secondary inspections."




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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 07:10 AM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I am not anti-vax, in fact I just got round three of what Pfizer brewed up. I think that anyone who could show proof of recovery, and a very recent negative test should be free to move about the country!

It looks like only those who are sent to secondary will have to show proof of vaccination;

"Foreign visitors crossing into the United States by land or ferry will need to be vaccinated but will not necessarily need to show proof of vaccination unless they are referred by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol for secondary inspections."


Why would anyone not get the vaccine?

And why would you sit in long border line and risk being rejected if you are asked to provide vaccination proof you do not have? And also risk being put on list as having lied to CBP, resulting in loss of sentri or inability to ever get sentri?

Get the vaccine. Don’t be a dumb maga dufus.




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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 07:12 AM


I bet the CBP inspector restaffing plan lags the return of crossers, leading to humungous lines and loooooooonnnnggg waits….



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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 07:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Why would anyone not get the vaccine?



Well, if you're Mexican, who the border restrictions affect the most, perhaps because they are available only on a hit-and-miss basis. Vaccines were just available in TJ for several days at a gov. facility a considerable distance east of centro. Then they ran out, disappointing 1000s, probably 10s of thousands, of TJ citizens who want to get vaccinated but can't.

If they are only checking in secondary, 1 out of 1000, or fewer, will be checked.

And there is no mention if one shot is OK or both are needed.



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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 09:01 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexico and Canada essential travel restrictions will be lifted in November to fully vaccinated people.

The exception are the 90,000+ who have walked across the border line at places other than official crossings since Covid. Hopefully, they got vaccinated before being bussed around the country.


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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 09:06 AM


It was a discussion of lifting of border restrictions for fully vaccinated people... Justice is supposed to be blind, yet the rules or the law are not applied equally by the U.S. federal government. It is a legal comment, not political.



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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 09:09 AM


What about those who have natural immunity?
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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 09:11 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexico and Canada essential travel restrictions will be lifted in November to fully vaccinated people.

The exception are the 90,000+ who have walked across the border line at places other than official crossings since Covid. Hopefully, they got vaccinated before being bussed around the country.


90,000? Insignificant! The number of unvaccinated undocumented immigrants is minuscule compared to the 140,000,000 unvaccinated usa citizens.





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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 09:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Finchaser2020  
What about those who have natural immunity?


Exactly!
Goat wants that injection no matter if it is needed or not, he also is counting the millions of children under 12 who have no vaccine, yet.




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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 10:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It was a discussion of lifting of border restrictions for fully vaccinated people... Justice is supposed to be blind, yet the rules or the law are not applied equally by the U.S. federal government. It is a legal comment, not political.


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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 11:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexico and Canada essential travel restrictions will be lifted in November to fully vaccinated people.

The exception are the 90,000+ who have walked across the border line at places other than official crossings since Covid. Hopefully, they got vaccinated before being bussed around the country.


90,000? Insignificant! The number of unvaccinated undocumented immigrants is minuscule compared to the 140,000,000 unvaccinated usa citizens.



70% of Americans have had at least one shot.

That leaves about 99M. 50M of those are under 12. That leaves 49M. Probably 20M of them have had Covid. Leaving about 29M you all are crying about.

Of those 29M, only a small % (<5%) are crossing the border. They are required to be vaxxed.

1.4M are know to have crossed illegally. Another 50% of that are get aways. Those 2M+ ppl and counting are not required to be vaxxed and are being bussed all over the US.






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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 03:26 PM


I know it's a bit selfish of me, but the 2020 - 2021 COVID winter months in the Bahia Concepcion - Mulege area were really nice because of the smaller crowds. With the northern border open, the Maple Leaf flags will again be flying on Baja beaches.

Canadian RVers racing to the border:

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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 04:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I know it's a bit selfish of me, but the 2020 - 2021 COVID winter months in the Bahia Concepcion - Mulege area were really nice because of the smaller crowds. With the northern border open, the Maple Leaf flags will again be flying on Baja beaches.

Canadian RVers racing to the border:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bt9wL61kio



[Edited on 10-13-2021 by SFandH]


I agree 100%. I spent more time in Baja the last 18 mos. than I have in years. I´m gonna give this fall and winter a miss because I too believe it´s gonna be a zoo.
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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 04:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  


Exactly!
Goat wants that injection no matter if it is needed or not, he also is counting the millions of children under 12 who have no vaccine, yet.


I read that COVID vaccines also cure leukemia.
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[*] posted on 10-13-2021 at 06:47 PM


Really? Come on... Most Canadians fly to Cabo. And we could fly down there last year too. Most of the Canadians that I know that have a place were there last year. There will be a few RV's coming south but it will hardly be a zoo?
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[*] posted on 10-14-2021 at 08:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by eastmeetswest  
Really? Come on... Most Canadians fly to Cabo. And we could fly down there last year too. Most of the Canadians that I know that have a place were there last year. There will be a few RV's coming south but it will hardly be a zoo?


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[*] posted on 10-14-2021 at 10:26 AM


I agree with David on the crowds part. Last winter in the Mulege area was much less crowded with the border closure. I think many older Americans also decided not to come down for the winter.





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[*] posted on 10-14-2021 at 12:23 PM


Can you check La Perla next time you pass by? Compare photos, perhaps? Thanks!


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[*] posted on 10-14-2021 at 03:25 PM


Sounds like nothing has changed for Americans. If you have a US Passport they have to let you back in and I seriously doubt Mexico ever requires visitors to be vaxed, considering how they have been one of the easiest countries to get into throughout the pandemic.
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[*] posted on 10-14-2021 at 08:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by eastmeetswest  
Really? Come on... Most Canadians fly to Cabo. And we could fly down there last year too. Most of the Canadians that I know that have a place were there last year. There will be a few RV's coming south but it will hardly be a zoo?


A picture is worth....It seems that I was wrong. But my guess is that there are many, many more RV's from the US than Canada on most of the beaches.
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