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Baja Fairy Circles
the San Borja hiking prep made me revisit the area (Google Earth)
some really cool stuff in the area
among them are mysterious plant-less circles known in other parts of the world as Fairy Circles
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flat earth view
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Our big prairies are full of circles In our case they are Tepee rings, caused by the occupants throwing garbage and human waste out the Tepee...The
waste enriched the soil on a permanent basis. SO: in the spring of the year the grass is greener and is easy to see I usedto fly my Cub over the
Praiirie and drop 1 lb bags of flour to make it easier to find the village the rings indicated...
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Burros like to roll around in a rock-free spot like this as a dirt bath, of sorts. I photographed one we all examined in 2015 on the Pole Line Run...
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Two observations. The spacing is not random and the 'holes' are of different ages (some are more recent than others).
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Just wondering, what do you mean "not random"?
Not evenly spaced, sure, but they sure "seem random".
Are you implying there is a pattern to the circles in the picture?
Either way they are interesting....
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | Burros like to roll around in a rock-free spot like this as a dirt bath, of sorts. I photographed one we all examined in 2015 on the Pole Line Run...
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open spots with powdery ground always invite burros to use them as a "bath"
but the burros are not likely the creators of these Fairy circles
so far I have identified around 100 areas all over Baja with similar features
but the one depicted above is the most prominent
found it because a local rancher had posted a picture in the old version of Google Earth
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Very interesting. VERY.
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the sharp minded around you could still get famous - nobody has found a good explanation for fairy circles yet.
Some cool theories are floating around though.
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You’re right, it does not seem random. I connected the dots, but even a little different, seems a pattern. Maybe a type of geoglyph.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy |
Just wondering, what do you mean "not random"?
Not evenly spaced, sure, but they sure "seem random".
Are you implying there is a pattern to the circles in the picture?
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Random means scattered randomly. Some circles would be close to others and others not. The distance between circles is totally random. Equal distance
between living things means competition. You see that in desert plants. Aggregated or clusters suggest positive interaction, sometimes social
interaction. Random means no interaction, positive or negative. That’s for all living natural groupings.
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I saw circles very similar driving south on Hwy 93 through Nevada a couple years ago. Someone told me they were fire ants that made them, so perhaps
some species of ant in Baja doing the same. Still, I'm not eve sure the fire ant story is valid. I never really took any time to research it, and
should have pulled over to take some photos.
The ones I saw in Nevada were very strange, never seen anything like them until these photos from Baja. I would guess some kind of insect: ant,
termite, etc. could be involved.
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There is also an absence of rocks in the circles compared with surrounding terrain. Can only assume this is deliberate. Could be an indigenous
habitation site. Would be interesting to explore the area personally - look for ancient yucca cultivation, yucca fire pits, waffle gardens, stone
tools, imported shells. Where is this location (miles from ? or GPS).
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Sleeping Circles
| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | | There is also an absence of rocks in the circles compared with surrounding terrain. Can only assume this is deliberate. Could be an indigenous
habitation site. Would be interesting to explore the area personally - look for ancient yucca cultivation, yucca fire pits, waffle gardens, stone
tools, imported shells. Where is this location (miles from ? or GPS). |
On top of the hill at the mystery walls of Bahía Las Animas (aka 'Lost Mission Santa María Magdalena'):
More at www.vivabaja.com/109
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The things 4x4 posted are not sleeping circles. The things special k posted are sleeping circles.
These cleared grounds are all over socal and baja. The sleeping circles had small rock walls around them, part of the structure. The cleared circles
w/o walls or stone concentration around edge were art or religious thing.
The sleeping circles often have artifacts, while The non-sleeping circles rarely have artifacts.
Fairy circles is a term used for circles in grassland, and they have biological cause.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | The things 4x4 posted are not sleeping circles. The things special k posted are sleeping circles.
These cleared grounds are all over socal and baja. The sleeping circles had small rock walls around them, part of the structure. The cleared circles
w/o walls or stone concentration around edge were art or religious thing.
The sleeping circles often have artifacts, while The non-sleeping circles rarely have artifacts.
Fairy circles is a term used for circles in grassland, and they have biological cause. |
One very common source of these circles in Socal is the Harvester Ant. They develop a nest that is active for decades and decades and if left
undisturbed , who knows , maybe for hundreds of years .
They establish foraging trails that extend far from the entrance., collect seed from the surrounding area and deposit the debris along with dirt and
small pebbles in the area surrounding the nest.
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John, the ones you are talking about in Nevada are ant mounds, I've stop and looked at them several times. Pretty much what Kacey J described above.
Goat is right that most sleep circles have small walls around them as a wind break. They still could be from some kind of hut or animal skin
structure that the natives used? Maybe because of the more mild weather in Baja they are sleeping circles? Interesting....
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ranchers call them "puntos circulares sin vegetacion"
here is one that is not too hard to reach
MESA EL CIRIO
28°31'10.33"N, 113°49'23.26"W
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