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lol.gif posted on 11-16-2021 at 09:00 PM
Rivian for baja travel?



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New York (CNN Business) Rivian, a 12-year-old startup with no revenue, is now the third most valuable carmaker in the world. The electric vehicle maker has been public for all of one week, but its share price has more than doubled in that time, valuing Rivian at more than $140 billion — just ahead of Volkswagen ($139 billion), and in third place behind Toyota ($306 billion) and Tesla ($1 trillion).


Rivian intends to sell an SUV and a pickup.
Could either car make it from San Felipe to Guerrero negro w/o a stop to charge up at one of the numerous charging stations in baja? When towing?

Have to admit the Rivian will be 10X hipper than a Toyota,….







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[*] posted on 11-16-2021 at 09:16 PM


We are trying to close a deal with them now.





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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 06:11 AM
Not designed for offroad



Nice, I like it . . . BUT

I'll have to figure out how to give this Rivian:
1. 8" lift
2. 35" tires
3. Offroad suspension

And make sure the motor has the torque to drive the wheel/tires.






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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 07:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by edm1  

Nice, I like it . . . BUT

I'll have to figure out how to give this Rivian:
1. 8" lift
2. 35" tires
3. Offroad suspension

And make sure the motor has the torque to drive the wheel/tires.






[Edited on 11-17-2021 by edm1]



Rivian off road seems to do just fine stock. :D

https://youtu.be/hMR6ctl-nf8


It was also a chase vehicle in Long Way Up adventure from Patagonia to LA.

https://youtu.be/ggu11EJo4L8






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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 08:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by edm1  

Nice, I like it . . . BUT

I'll have to figure out how to give this Rivian:
1. 8" lift
2. 35" tires
3. Offroad suspension

And make sure the motor has the torque to drive the wheel/tires.






[Edited on 11-17-2021 by edm1]


Well, the van is designed for use as delivery vehicle and tradesman use. Was never intended for transporting/housing homeless people on unpaved roads.

[Edited on 11-17-2021 by BajaNomad]




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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 09:31 AM


Since I source almost all of my automotive parts through Amazon, and if Amazon gives me a complimentary Rivian delivery van, I would transform it to a Baja 4X4 rig by first upgrading the skateboard battery platform with the most robust Rivian powerhouse, then do the suspension/tires/wheels.

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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 09:45 AM


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Rivian intends to sell an SUV and a pickup.
Could either car make it from San Felipe to Guerrero negro w/o a stop to charge up at one of the numerous charging stations in baja? When towing?

Have to admit the Rivian will be 10X hipper than a Toyota,….
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Of course, you joke
No fast charge in Baja except for Tesla. Even then who would want to hang around for charging ? The charging station would be a primary target for the bad guys.
EVs are extremely impractical
Maybe a hybrid might work?


[Edited on 11-17-2021 by PaulW]
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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 10:05 AM


Electric gives you fantastic low-end torque for crawling.



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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 10:05 AM


A month ago I went to a Rivian event in Venice, CA -- fun to see what's available. The trucks had lots of cool features, but as a life-time truck owner there were some things which would be a deal-killer for me, such as the 54" bed. I was impressed with the skid plate which provides protection to the entire underside of the truck.









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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 11:00 AM


More like a Subaru Baja, where the four door cabin size outweighs the need for a bed bigger than 4 or 4.5 feet.



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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 12:03 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
More like a Subaru Baja, where the four door cabin size outweighs the need for a bed bigger than 4 or 4.5 feet.


rivian PU is not as big as a 1/2 ton PU.
size-wise, the rivian PU is like a slightly up-sized ford ranger.






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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 12:55 PM


$69,000 ??!!
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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 01:48 PM


One positive on Rivian: Took them 3 days to refund a preorder deposit into my account when we found a better use for it. Great vehicle for sure, but the new much cheaper Ford F-150 might be a better place for the initial Electric Off-road investments.
Especially useful on the Ford is the backup power supply for home or power tool use in emergencies.

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A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 01:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
$69,000 ??!!


Does that include a V-8 simulator sound system? I would also appreciate a drive train vibration effect while I am waiting in traffic!




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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 02:09 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  

Rivian intends to sell an SUV and a pickup.
Could either car make it from San Felipe to Guerrero negro w/o a stop to charge up at one of the numerous charging stations in baja? When towing?

Have to admit the Rivian will be 10X hipper than a Toyota,….
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Of course, you joke
No fast charge in Baja except for Tesla. Even then who would want to hang around for charging ? The charging station would be a primary target for the bad guys.
EVs are extremely impractical
Maybe a hybrid might work?



[Edited on 11-17-2021 by PaulW]


If you have solar power at your home and supply your own charging point, the benefits are obvious. More than a 250 mile round trip? You will need to find some alternate charging sites. With backup power of close to 120 kwh available on the Fords I figure you save a fair bit on additional solar storage batteries as well for your home solar system. I paid a bit over 10G for just under 20 kwh high quality LiFePO4 for my home.

One author's perspective on the Navajo reserve situation, seems a bit familiar:
https://bobby-48881.medium.com/new-ford-f-150-lightning-is-a...

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[Edited on 11-18-2021 by JDCanuck]




A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 02:11 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
$69,000 ??!!


Does that include a V-8 simulator sound system? I would also appreciate a drive train vibration effect while I am waiting in traffic!
You'll have to carry a junkyard V8 engine in the bed, just for that purposeful rumble. It'd be cheaper than a 5000w Rivian subwoofer.


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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 03:01 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
$69,000 ??!!
Does that include a V-8 simulator sound system? I would also appreciate a drive train vibration effect while I am waiting in traffic!


You joke, but many electric vehicles these days have fake engine sounds. Usually they go for Jetsons-style space-car sounds -- but I am confident the fake throaty V8-engine sounds they currently have in new gas Mustang and BMWs will make their way over to E-vehicles.




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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 03:27 PM


I put a playing card in my bicycle spokes and now it sounds like my Harley!

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[*] posted on 11-17-2021 at 05:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
$69,000 ??!!
Does that include a V-8 simulator sound system? I would also appreciate a drive train vibration effect while I am waiting in traffic!


You joke, but many electric vehicles these days have fake engine sounds. Usually they go for Jetsons-style space-car sounds -- but I am confident the fake throaty V8-engine sounds they currently have in new gas Mustang and BMWs will make their way over to E-vehicles.


Faux ICE sounds are for short guys.

One of the best things about an electric car is the absence of ICE noise.




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[*] posted on 11-18-2021 at 11:04 AM


I watched a youtube video earlier this morning where a Rivian climbed a very narrow rock walled canyon.

It was actually climbing on the walls at times as it made its way up to a flatter spot.

Other than a dedicated rock crawler, I can't imagine many trucks could have done what this pickup did, especially with the size of the tires.

Impressive it was. I don't have the connection to this video, but if one types in Rivian, it should show up.
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