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mtgoat666
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The e-car vendors are crazy. You can only get longer-range battery by paying more. The cheapskate in me always buys budget trim level. I can get a
large gas tank in my modest-trim ice truck. No need to buy platinum to get large gas tank.
A car that goes less than 300 miles per fill up does not fit my lifestyle.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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TMW
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Just buy a portable generator and take with you. While you are relaxing in the sun the gen. can charge your truck. Don't forget the fuel for the
generator when you go.
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David K
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Last thing I want to hear on a quiet Baja beach is a generator...
Shows how silly the idea is to save the environment, we need to run a gasoline generator or plug into the grid, powered often by fossil fuels!
Anyway, my 2010 4x4 Off Road TRD Tacoma is my last Baja vehicle, being that it won't break down or wear out... Oh what a feeling!
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  | | Just buy a portable generator and take with you. While you are relaxing in the sun the gen. can charge your truck. Don't forget the fuel for the
generator when you go. |
My f150 gets 600+ miles per tank.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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David K
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Gee with talk like that, before you know it, goat will be voting Republican!
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JDCanuck
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Recharge times have come way down from the hours they used to take. A couple more years will make a big difference as batteries and chargers continue
to improve. 5 min for gas refill or 10 min at present for highest kw ev chargers. Demand is sure to drive innovation.
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Tacayo
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The El Centro Tesla supercharger doesn't require a hotel stay. Just 30-40 minutes of your time. So you could easily make it to your favorite spot and
back home no problem. People usually stop for gas too.
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Don Pisto
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no gas no squeegee?
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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TMW
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How far can you go a a 30 minute charge?
How long does it take to charge a Tesla at a charging station?
The NEMA 14-50 charger for Tesla electric cars plugs into a 240 volt wall outlet, similar to the type used by your clothes dryer or other appliances.
A standard Tesla charger with a NEMA 14-50 connector will be able to charge your Tesla battery completely in 10 hours (for the Model S) to 10 ½ hours
(for the Model X).Nov 5, 2021
On the other hand:
A 120 volt outlet will supply 2 to 3 miles of range per hour charged. If you charge overnight and drive less than 30 to 40 miles per day, this option
should meet your typical charging needs.
Better:
The Tesla Supercharger is the fastest charging option when you're away from home, allowing you to charge your car up to 200 miles in 15 minutes.
Designed to get you charged and back on the road as quickly as possible, there are 30,000 global Superchargers that are accessible on a 24/7 basis,
located on major routes near convenient amenities.
David go for the Supercharger it'll get you home.
[Edited on 11-26-2021 by TMW]
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AKgringo
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TMW, any idea what the typical cost is for 15 minutes on a Tesla supercharger?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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TMW
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If you charge at a Tesla supercharger, the cost is typically about $0.25 per KW if you purchased a Model S or Model X after January 2017.
Supercharging is free for cars purchased before, January 2017. The average supercharger cost of $0.25 per KW also applies for Model 3.
How much does it cost to charge a Tesla at a public charging station?
The Tesla Model X costs about $15.29 to fully charge, which comes out to about 4.5 cents per mile. It will cost around $7.65 to charge a Tesla Model
3. Depending on the variant, this is between 3 and 4 cents per mile. If you own a Tesla Model S, you can expect to pay about 3.7 per mile.Nov 4, 2021
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John Harper
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Electric vehicles will evolve as they can fill markets. You certainly could not ride your horse 600 miles in one day, yet the horse was fine for
around town errands. How many miles, on average, do most people drive in a day? 20, 30, 50 miles? More than enough for a current electric
vehicle.
Those of you needing more range on a daily basis, or for longer excursions, will just have to wait for better battery capacity, or settle for existing
technology (ICE and diesel).
Most long distance travels in the past were limited by various factors, including a scarcity of services and paved roads. It's just different
factors that need to be addressed, at least roads are paved and most electrical infrastructure is in place or can be upgraded. You couldn't
even drive 70 miles an hour in most of America until the interstate highway system was developed.
John
[Edited on 11-26-2021 by John Harper]
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100X
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Electric cars have been around since well before the ICE.
Fun fact: President McKinley was riding in one when he was shot (an electric ambulance took him to the hospital too).
"The Long Way Up" came out last year with Charlie Boorman and Ewan McGregor riding the first electric Harley Davidsons 13,000 miles from Patagonia to
the US (they did transport them part of the way through mainland Mexico because they were worried about being kidnapped). They were chased by a pair
of prototype Rivians. It is an interesting watch, and gives a good look at the challenges involved in electric vehicles when the infrastructure is not
yet there.
[Edited on 11-26-2021 by 100X]
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PaulW
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The sad thing about the infrastucture is that the non tesla charging stations is they have a history unreliablity and many are defective.
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100X
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Don't recall--just rolled my eyes...
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TMW
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At Harrah's auto museum in Reno there is an electric car built around 1916 that would go over 100 miles. The museum is a fun place to walk thru.
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100X
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400 miles range and can add batteries...
3'+ water crossing capability...
https://youtu.be/RNqwZ6qrqBM
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John Harper
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Like the "slow food" movement, perhaps the allure of "slow travel" will carry us forward. A renaissance of "boutique/unique" motels along a newly
"supercharged" Route 66?
John
[Edited on 11-27-2021 by John Harper]
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JZ
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They are pretty cool. It will be interesting to see where they are in about 5 years.
At $70-100K a pop it will be a pretty limited customer base at the beginning.
[Edited on 11-27-2021 by JZ]
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JDCanuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | Like the "slow food" movement, perhaps the allure of "slow travel" will carry us forward. A renaissance of "boutique/unique" motels along a newly
"supercharged" Route 66?
John
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Yes, Baja is a long way behind the rest of the world in making this an attractive alternative. Perhaps it's the commitment to gasoline fueling as an
economic source of incomes for so many? Norway is the present leader here, massive numbers of recharging stations to the point that almost 80% of all
new cars are EV's, followed by China and the rest of Europe. North America is the real laggard here, as we just hate to give up on what is a source of
income for so many involved in the supply and delivery of petroleum products. So we complain about the corporations that are leading the way while the
average person continues to pollute to the max. Real advantages of electric drives is traction control, reduced repair costs, reliability and
longevity. Now at last we can get all that for less cost than what the manufacturers have been used to passing on to us.
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