volcano3
Junior Nomad
Posts: 32
Registered: 12-9-2021
Member Is Offline
|
|
solar panel security
Are solar panels a likely candidate for theft? Any suggestions for anti theft devices, and special hurricane protection for panels on roof?
|
|
|
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
Posts: 17289
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Hot n spicy
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by volcano3  | | Are solar panels a likely candidate for theft? Any suggestions for anti theft devices, and special hurricane protection for panels on roof?
|
In usa building code requires solar panels /roof attachment to be designed for certain wind speeds, design basis is typically 110 mph for most of CA.
If I were buying an expensive system in baja I would hire an engineer or competent installer to design it appropriately.
That said, big hurricanes often have wind speeds above bldg code design basis, and direct hit by hurricane is probably going to destroy panels just
from flying debris even if panels stay attached to roof…
Anything can be stolen. The good thing about solar panels is they are usually on exterior and up high, and visibility often deters theft.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
|
|
|
volcano3
Junior Nomad
Posts: 32
Registered: 12-9-2021
Member Is Offline
|
|
it is a pre existing 2 panel system, that, thus far......we put on the roof when we are there for vacation.
|
|
|
4x4abc
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4163
Registered: 4-24-2009
Location: La Paz, BCS
Member Is Offline
Mood: happy - always
|
|
Mexicans prefer easy jobs
wrenching on the roof?
lugging it down?
for $50 a piece?
I don't think so
they will take a few cans of Campbells's soup in the kitchen
your laptop
you camera
your phone
your flat screen (unless it is bolted to the wall)
they love car batteries (don't leave your car unlocked on your property)
they like shovels in your garden
even though more expensive - they don't touch garden hoses
until I got dogs, I had regular unwanted "visitors" (despite 10ft wall)
Harald Pietschmann
|
|
|
JDCanuck
Super Nomad
Posts: 1159
Registered: 2-22-2020
Member Is Offline
|
|
I would be more concerned about adequate mounting and shielding in high winds than thieves. First thing I looked at when mine were installed, and the
installer did a very thorough job. Before he designed the install his first question was how much protection and shielding the parapets were going to
give. Pays to pay a bit extra on installation to get it done well.
|
|
|
Don Pisto
Super Nomad
Posts: 1230
Registered: 8-1-2018
Location: El Pescador
Member Is Offline
Mood: weary like everyone else
|
|
they'll be safer from theft bolted down on the roof than stored in the house, man I love being ON the grid now!
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
|
|
|
Maderita
Senior Nomad
Posts: 634
Registered: 12-14-2008
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
|
|
Perhaps use tamper-resistant (tamper proof) screws and bolts to prevent theft. Such as: https://www.mcmaster.com/tamper-resistant-screws/
There are one-way wood screws, however, future removal is difficult. Tamper-resistant allows for removal. Thieves will not have the specific "key"
tool.
A cheap solution is to peen the exposed bolt threads after tightening the nut. The downside is that, should you have to remove the bolts at a later
date, it will require some cutting or grinding.
|
|
|
Floatflyer
Nomad
Posts: 311
Registered: 2-15-2009
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Wet & Cold
|
|
I had my panels mounted on a concrete flat roof. The framing was such that I could adjust the angle of the panels and when we were gone during the
summer I would put them flat on the roof and pinned in that position. No problems for many years.
|
|
|
volcano3
Junior Nomad
Posts: 32
Registered: 12-9-2021
Member Is Offline
|
|
thank you for all the ideas
|
|
|
Lee
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3455
Registered: 10-2-2006
Location: High in the Colorado Rockies
Member Is Offline
|
|
Common thiefs are opportunists and will steal anything, anytime, anywhere.
My flip-flops were stolen. Women designer jeans from a clothesline. Pocket knife at a checkpoint. Binocs at another checkpoint.
A neighbor who was gone for the season had his home broken into. Steel doors, metal bars on windows embedded in concrete with a full time neighbor
next door.
Sometimes easy, sometimes not. If time is on their side, they'll get in.
Leaving a home for the season, with no one living there, even a p/t caretaker, is an invitation to theft.
Best deterrent is a walled home with dogs inside that will bark at intruders in the area. Underestimating thief's is a mistake.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
|
|
|
JZ
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9225
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | Common thiefs are opportunists and will steal anything, anytime, anywhere.
My flip-flops were stolen. Women designer jeans from a clothesline. Pocket knife at a checkpoint. Binocs at another checkpoint.
A neighbor who was gone for the season had his home broken into. Steel doors, metal bars on windows embedded in concrete with a full time neighbor
next door.
Sometimes easy, sometimes not. If time is on their side, they'll get in.
Leaving a home for the season, with no one living there, even a p/t caretaker, is an invitation to theft.
Best deterrent is a walled home with dogs inside that will bark at intruders in the area. Underestimating thief's is a mistake.
|
Last thing I had stole was a large cooler full of craft beer.
We were doing a road trip from LA to Telluride about a year ago. Spent the night in Scottsdale and bought a bunch of beers I have never had.
Stopped at a tiny town in New Mexico for the night. In the AM my cooler was gone. Wasn't very happy!
|
|
|
Lee
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3455
Registered: 10-2-2006
Location: High in the Colorado Rockies
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
How'd they get in? My conclusion after seeing multiple break-ins, is that a lot of this impressive-looking grillwork and such, is more show than
utility. |
Chipped, drilled, hammered, all without disturbing a full time neighbor 100m away. Saw the damage to the wall. Wrought iron, cast iron, rebar --
don't know what's being used on these window. If a thief has enough time, these bars won't keep them out.
There's a family in Pescadero with a bunch of brothers who are reputed to be organized at this stuff. Bad hombres.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
|
|
|
soulpatch
Nomad
Posts: 399
Registered: 7-30-2005
Member Is Offline
|
|
Any good racking system will have wind rating charts, everything you need to know to install your system.
I had six systems in the eye of hurricane 2 years ago.
I had rated them for upper Cat 2 range winds.
They all came on as soon as the grid was back up with no damage.
I was worried more about flying debris breaking modules but not one had an issue.
|
|
|
bkbend
Senior Nomad
Posts: 693
Registered: 11-27-2003
Location: central OR or central baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
For security I used floatflyer's method and drop them flat when I'm gone. The roof pitch is away from the road and they aren't really visible.
They've survived typical B de LA north and west winds while up and hurricanes Odile and Kay while down. I used an RV mounting system.
|
|
|
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
Posts: 17289
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Hot n spicy
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee | Common thiefs are opportunists and will steal anything, anytime, anywhere.
My flip-flops were stolen. Women designer jeans from a clothesline. Pocket knife at a checkpoint. Binocs at another checkpoint.
A neighbor who was gone for the season had his home broken into. Steel doors, metal bars on windows embedded in concrete with a full time neighbor
next door.
Sometimes easy, sometimes not. If time is on their side, they'll get in.
Leaving a home for the season, with no one living there, even a p/t caretaker, is an invitation to theft.
Best deterrent is a walled home with dogs inside that will bark at intruders in the area. Underestimating thief's is a mistake.
|
Last thing I had stole was a large cooler full of craft beer.
We were doing a road trip from LA to Telluride about a year ago. Spent the night in Scottsdale and bought a bunch of beers I have never had.
Stopped at a tiny town in New Mexico for the night. In the AM my cooler was gone. Wasn't very happy!
|
Half pint
Since you travel with private security, i am surprised you were victim of theft. You need to redesign your security, maybe change out guards that are
slacking.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
|
|
|
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
