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David K
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Oh, I sure hope so!
I would like a quick refresher trip for the road guide before it gets published, but I do hate camping when it's cold.
Shell Island is on the wish list for the summer... maybe Bahía Concepción, too?
Hwy. 5, south of Gonzaga: Last on it in May 2019, with 20 miles unfinished or detoured.
Bahía Tortugas Highway: Last on it in June 2017, with 9 miles unpaved.
Hwy. 3 from Ojos Negros to the original Laguna Hanson route, recently blocked closed at the highway.
Quick check for any changes on other roads.
Anything else I should do?
Merry Christmas to you, too!
[Edited on 12-26-2021 by David K]
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mtgoat666
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Just do it!
Use it or lose it!
Less talk, more action!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | Oh, I sure hope so!
I would like a quick refresher trip for the road guide before it gets published, but I do hate camping when it's cold.
Shell Island is on the wish list for the summer... maybe Bahía Concepción, too?
Hwy. 5, south of Gonzaga: Last on it in May 2019, with 20 miles unfinished or detoured.
Bahía Tortugas Highway: Last on it in June 2017, with 9 miles unpaved.
Hwy. 3 from Ojos Negros to the original Laguna Hanson route, recently blocked closed at the highway.
Quick check for any changes on other roads.
Anything else I should do?
Merry Christmas to you, too!
[Edited on 12-26-2021 by David K] |
Sounds good amigo! I´m heading up in Feb. and want to check out some new (to me) stuff.
I want to back door Agua Verde, check out Timbabiche area and go to 3 Virgenes/Boca san Carlos/Santa Ana area + fish some new beaches on the Pacific.
Happy New Year!!!
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David K
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Oh boy, I would like to see the San Carlos road and where Padre Consag left to sail up to the Colorado Delta, again proving that California was not an
island!
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I clicked on this thread thinking is was 2 pages of pertinent, on topic, Baja related talk and reports of the rain system that is effecting the
area… again I was sucked into BS.
This thread is a perfect example of the regular chit stirrers who immediately bring politics and non-sense into a thread, which inevitably devolves
into what is shown here.
Trolls and bait.
Also a perfect example of the serious lack of moderation here and a very poorly run forum with so much potential.
No wonder people put up with FB to get their Baja online fix and join here, ask a few questions and then move on.
I’ve owned and moderated a few forums with much more traffic and would have got the ban-hammer out long ago. Even asked for help when obviously
needed.
The way I see it having clear rules, not the laughable generic lawyer speak this place has and actually enforcing it to small number of people who
ruin threads would make bajanomads a far more inviting online community. Most of the regular offenders in question should be banned, regardless of
their contributions when they are on their meds or in a good mood to create a far greater community.
Certainly the future of this forum is at stake.
Kind of sad really.
I come here to explore, learn and get away from the extremist BS going in the USA from either “side”.
It’s obvious I shouldn’t bother spending any of my time contributing to a forum that wont even do a bare minimum to keep things civil and on
topic.
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JDCanuck
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It's certainly been an interesting fall and winter. Up here, record precipitation following 2 years of unusually dry weather, record low temps
following increasingly warmer weather. In BCS it looks like it will also be an unusually high precipitation year. Are the water issues in California
more related to lack of conservation and use or lack of precipitation?
Rainwater capture, treatment and storage from newly hardened surfaces in La Paz seems unheard of, yet people are struggling to get water for
residential use as more and more demand shows up.
I prefer sensible adaptation to weather extremes and we have barely scratched the surface of what can be done. People continue to build increasingly
in flood zones and then wonder why they get flooded out in extreme 100 year events. Engineers continue to design to barely meet the present averages
to save money and no longer allow for extremes. The Romans knew far better it seems.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | It's certainly been an interesting fall and winter. Up here, record precipitation following 2 years of unusually dry weather, record low temps
following increasingly warmer weather. In BCS it looks like it will also be an unusually high precipitation year. Are the water issues in California
more related to lack of conservation and use or lack of precipitation?
Rainwater capture, treatment and storage from newly hardened surfaces in La Paz seems unheard of, yet people are struggling to get water for
residential use as more and more demand shows up.
I prefer sensible adaptation to weather extremes and we have barely scratched the surface of what can be done. People continue to build increasingly
in flood zones and then wonder why they get flooded out in extreme 100 year events. Engineers continue to design to barely meet the present averages
to save money and no longer allow for extremes. The Romans knew far better it seems. |
Agree with you that people should not build in flood plains.
I do not agree with designing drainage conveyance to greater than 100-year storm flow.
Hire good engineers and contractors. If you choose lowest bid, you get what you pay for.
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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JDCanuck
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Agree with you that people should not build in flood plains.
I do not agree with designing drainage conveyance to greater than 100-year storm flow.
Hire good engineers and contractors. If you choose lowest bid, you get what you pay for.
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It used to be common among Engineers to design for the worst possible known conditions and then add in a safety factor of 30 to 50%. These are the
factors I continued to use when I designed a system in my field. Sadly, for cost reduction reasons I have observed safety factors have taken a back
seat to limiting costs, resulting in a much higher failure rate of installations. Our local area designed dikes and pumping systems to allow people to
build in flood zones never before used due to the risks of flooding. When one of the two pumps failed in a 100 year extreme event, the area was
drastically overwhelmed with flooding. In the past, there would have commonly been 3 to 4 pumps of similar size to allow for unexpected failures.
Just barely good enough has become the new standard it seems.
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JDCanuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
Not everywhere.
Consider the SpaceX projects. Or the Webb Telescope. Consider the number of things that could go wrong with those operations. That usually don't.
Engineering a fair sight beyond "barely good enough".
More like "wizardry".  |
Good points! I really need to focus more on where we are excelling and less on where we are failing. I'm beginning to sound like one of those
complaining old codgers I used to laugh at. A good New Years resolution for me i think.
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John Harper
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As much as we conserve water, the approval of more and more housing developments goes on and on. They just approved a huge development north of Lost
Angeles in the old Fort Tejon area.
Also, there is a tremendous misallocation of water to agricultural uses, subsidized by all of us.
There are several good books about water in CA. "Cadillac Desert" and "Water and Power", as well as "The King of California" can provide some
background to why "whisky is for drinking, water is for fighting" came to be a common phrase in the Southwest.
John
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JDCanuck
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John: Any ideas how you can adapt in advance to what appears to be a growing concern in California? Up here we more and more commonly recycle
residential waste water for irrigation and also more and more people are installing residential rainwater collection systems for irrigation. We still
have lots of excess water supplies from the municipal system, but a lot of people are investing in future shortages in advance. I can't think of
anything more concerning than water shortages.
1 1/2 inches of rain across a 2000 sq ft rooftop is a lot of water to dump down a drain.
[Edited on 12-27-2021 by JDCanuck]
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John Harper
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IDK. I guess it depends on whether storage, or recycling, or even desal is economically feasible. I'm against more dams on rivers, but maybe use
isolated dry canyons (not watersheds) to create reservoirs. They did that about 10 years ago here in San Diego North County. Hardly anyone even
remembers it's there now. Once it's pumped in, gravity can recover some of the lost energy with some small hydrostations on the delivery drop, as
they do with the Los Angeles aqueduct.
But, I assume any feasible dry canyon in CA has already been mapped and evaluated. Lots of state, private, and federal land here in California as
well, so many "stakeholders" in any decisions.
Recycled water is abundant, we have it in my city. Unfortunately, it gets branded "toilet to tap" and the irrational fear campaigns begin agianst
using it as drinking water. I have read that we actually dump a lot of recycled water because of this irrational fear of using it domestically. Good
Lord, what an idiocracy we live in.
Some things never change. Fear always works.
John
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JDCanuck
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John: Norway took advantage of all those fjords to get to where they are on hydro. Widening rivers here or raising lakes by even 1 yard to produce
hydro has become a big no-no so other than the excess hydro we have presently and ship to the US grid under the old agreements now expired, new hydro
has hit a standstill. Environmentalists are now demanding we start restricting the present hydro power sold to US rather than develop more.
Its a lot easier in Mexico to retain softer rain water as no one trusts the municipal water for drinking anyway and bottled water has been kept
extremely cheap. I'm surprised it hasn't been more widely used til now on a larger scale. A whole lot of erosion in rainy season could be avoided by
installing proper storm drains and capture systems.
Desal is a mixed benefit as the returned effluent from filters is super concentrated and has its detractors also, but may actually be the cheapest if
you are coastal.
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John Harper
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The problem with hydro and dams on rivers in the West is anadromous fish populations. Steelhead and salmon runs have been decimated. I may be
biased, but a sustainable commercial and recreational fishing industry would provide more economic boost to local economies than corporate farms in
the Central Valley.
Yes, like I said in another post about Mexico's oil/gas issues. It's easier to have small local water purifying stores than construct a massive water
system like we did in California. And, point of delivery purifiers might be the way to go, no reliance on the bigger system.
I think mass produced water purification systems have probably taken a lot of stress off healthcare systems in less developed countries. I think
cholera and dysentery are still up there with malaria as major killers.
John
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We have opted for rainwater capture and storage from all hardened surfaces (roofs, patios, driveways) in Pacific BCS, engineered septic recovery for
irrigation, solar water heating, TAC water conditioning for the very hard well water, and a fairly large solar power system for energy needs. All this
combined was not cheap and increased the overall building costs by about 20%. Still, I feel it was worth it for the increased independence it
provides...we'll see.
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | We have opted for rainwater capture and storage from all hardened surfaces (roofs, patios, driveways) in Pacific BCS, engineered septic recovery for
irrigation, solar water heating, TAC water conditioning for the very hard well water, and a fairly large solar power system for energy needs. All this
combined was not cheap and increased the overall building costs by about 20%. Still, I feel it was worth it for the increased independence it
provides...we'll see. |
Very impressive and comprehensive system, sounds like you've done your homework. Perhaps new home designs can start to incorporate rain and graywater
recovery systems as well as some rooftop solar. I think here in Southern California there is a lot of resistance from the big power and water
utilities.
John
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California seems to be the first place both those would be put in place. Solar because of the availability and also high demand periods lining up.
Rainwater capture just seems a natural solution to offset declining supplies. Unlike BCS there are already big subsidies available there to make the
extra costs far less painful. I've also read quite a few municipalities are now outlawing softeners because of the water wastage they create and
pushing TAC conditioning as an alternate solution.
Last three years in US new utility power sources have been particularly encouraging as solar and wind increasingly took the lead and even nat gas
generation installations fell way off.
Up here Transalta, our biggest power utility in Alberta just completed the conversion from coal to nat gas at their power plants resulting in a 50%
reduction in CO2 9 years ahead of schedule, and shut others down while building wind power alternatives so progress is being made.
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We are prepping for a good soaking here in Bahia Asuncion starting tonight perhaps and looks like an all day rain tomorrow but clearing on Friday for
New Years festivities. Good thing is not much wind with it and the wild flowers will explode!
Maybe a good day to stay put and not be on the roads. Looks like heavy rain for Abreojos tomorrow afternoon!
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
Not everywhere.
Consider the SpaceX projects. Or the Webb Telescope. Consider the number of things that could go wrong with those operations. That usually don't.
Engineering a fair sight beyond "barely good enough".
More like "wizardry". |
Speaking of the Webb telescope, the first photos are starting to come in.
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Holy crap, this storm hit hard!
I am sure that some of you are aware of the snowfall on Donner summit, but just west of there in Grass Valley, we got hammered!
I have seen more snow than this in the past, but never so much damage from fallen and broken trees. I have had no power at my house since Christmas
night, and all of the places that I would usually go for public WIFI were also shut down! Comcast is finally on line at the Raley's market near me,
so I can catch up a little.
I have family down from Alaska, but they did not bring winter clothing to California, so it has been a challenge. Fortunately, I have a wood stove
for heat, a gas fired water heater and stove, but it has been a challenge cooking and cleaning for eight people with no electricity!
I will have to catch up on more later, since I am on a pizza run right now. Stores and restaurants are just now able to open up again, so no cooking
and cleaning tonight!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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