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gnukid
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Cannabis compounds stopped COVID virus from infecting human cells in lab study
https://fortune.com/2022/01/12/cannabis-compounds-stop-covid...
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Lee
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Reliable sources confirmed Durban Poison and Willy's Reserve highly recommended. 
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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gnukid
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Government Data set show vaccinated are far more likely to become infected with COVID, for example here is recent UK data.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
It shows that 72% or nearly three quarters of infections in the recent four-week period were in the vaccinated (65% in the double or triple
vaccinated) and only 22% in the unvaccinated.
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mjs
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If 100% of the population was vaccinated then 100% of infections would be in vaccinated people. The vaccines were never claimed to prevent all
infections.
You're not very good with numbers are you? Did you even read the report you linked? The numbers clearly show the effectiveness of the vaccines in
reducing hospitalizations and mortality.
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  |
The vaccines were promoted heavily as stopping the spread. Very heavily.
I knew that wasn't the case the day I got the J&J vax in April 2021. That it was for preventing serious illness. I posted a good video (Lib
source) on that topic here 4-5 times: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
But let's not start some lie saying that for months and months the Biden administration and the MSM didn't promote that a huge benefit of the vaxx was
for stopping the spread.
I could post a hundred articles as examples.
Let's not move the goal posts (doing that is what makes ppl distrust the science). The vax is great, but to pretend there wasn't a false narrative
spun around it is not being honest.
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Washing state data
| Quote: | | COVID-19 case rates among 35-64 year-old individuals are 4 times higher in the unvaccinated population than in the fully vaccinated population
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And this is of January
California is running about the same
| Quote: | | From December 27, 2021 to January 2, 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.8 times more likely to get COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.
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https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/#postvax-status
In July 5x less for vaccinated even with delta
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm
So it would appear vaccinations do stop the spread.
As to your video, yes there was a full court press to explain that all vaccines were effective including J&J.
| Quote: | | With each shot that goes into someone’s arm the closer we get to ending this pandemic. |
Ending statement from video
https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
And yes, the goal posts are changing as the virus has evolved.
And there has been an evolution from stopping the spread to reducing the impact.
We saw that with the discussions on boosters.
[Edited on 1-15-2022 by Purdyd]
[Edited on 1-15-2022 by Purdyd]
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JDCanuck
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I just watched an amazingly informative set of data slides over our local news from our lead health officer here in British Columbia. Chief takeaways
were:
1)Delta at less than 5% and shrinking of the present infections remains the strain that causes the vast majority of serious illness and death. Omicron
had virtually none.
2) about 50% of the Covid positive patients in hospital were not admitted for Covid symptoms, but were found to be carrying it after admissions for
other illnesses and blood tests showed they were Covid carriers.
3) The indications of community Covid in tests from wastewater sampling is already showing a drastic reduction of the virus in the communities tested.
4)The expectation is this wave will show rapid reductions in hospitalizations of people carrying Covid ( a lagging indicator) within 1 to 2 weeks.
Thankfully we have a Scientist leading our responses and she likes to share the data to provide backing for her restrictions and vaccine suggestions,
not fear and abuse. This openness has led to exceptionally high acceptance levels for vaccination and community restrictions. Omicron is a very
different case than Delta was and she showed how we are following the same path as South Africa, Netherlands and UK in falling Case Fatality Rates.
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JDCanuck
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Here is the present Science:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6_IkJgvgT0
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | I just watched an amazingly informative set of data slides over our local news from our lead health officer here in British Columbia. Chief takeaways
were:
1)Delta at less than 5% and shrinking of the present infections remains the strain that causes the vast majority of serious illness and death. Omicron
had virtually none.
2) about 50% of the Covid positive patients in hospital were not admitted for Covid symptoms, but were found to be carrying it after admissions for
other illnesses and blood tests showed they were Covid carriers.
3) The indications of community Covid in tests from wastewater sampling is already showing a drastic reduction of the virus in the communities tested.
4)The expectation is this wave will show rapid reductions in hospitalizations of people carrying Covid ( a lagging indicator) within 1 to 2 weeks.
Thankfully we have a Scientist leading our responses and she likes to share the data to provide backing for her restrictions and vaccine suggestions,
not fear and abuse. This openness has led to exceptionally high acceptance levels for vaccination and community restrictions. Omicron is a very
different case than Delta was and she showed how we are following the same path as South Africa, Netherlands and UK in falling Case Fatality Rates.
[Edited on 1-15-2022 by JDCanuck] |
She sounds like a good one.
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JDCanuck
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My prediction is Omicron will be the ultimate solution to Covid, regardless of what punitive measures governments apply to force people to do what
they want them to.
Hopefully the next crisis gets more support from the populace than this past one did, regardless of what party is in control at the time.
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Skipjack Joe
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Many such stories. You guys are way of base with this natural immunity bullchit.
"I am not trying to be an alarmist, but we are in a true crisis," he wrote. "The global medical community must band together to find answers for those
suffering. They are all Heidi and they are running out of time and hope."
https://www.today.com/health/health/death-man-writes-essay-wifes-struggle-long-covid-19-rcna12064?cid=sm_npd_td_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR31uE9hBeOKYsHd-xw
qsWnUc9sRRbgHM3sIMjlDLm_HvLsLCen2xUk2GmI
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"My prediction is Omicron will be the ultimate solution to Covid...."
I hope (and also for the most part believe) you are correct.
"Hopefully the next crisis gets more support from the populace than this past one did, regardless of what party is in control at the time."
Yes, this marginal support was spread across two dissimilar administrations. I wish I was more hopeful on this second thought, but believe there is
too much "opportunity" in any crisis for either party to not try to make political gain from it.
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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Funny to me how alarmist some are today about Covid, but pretty much shrug their shoulders that an actual tsunami warning was issued for the west
coast.
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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Only natural immunity will end this (given the lack of a truly effective vaccine).
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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JDCanuck
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Skipjack: I read that story and am in full agreement. The medical community continued and has found multiple treatments for those suffering after they
contracted Covid. Remdesivir, Monoclonal Antibodies, a mixture of c-cktails were all presented as effective treatments at various times, yet for
mainly political reasons they were forcefully opposed and whoever presented them called a liar by opposing factions. Why do we continue to do this?
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-ramps-up-vaccination-of-imm...
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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So how about an "Operation Warp Speed" for therapeutics? 
"When you catch a fish, you open the door of happiness."
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JZ
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You Canucks better start stocking up on food and supplies.
[Edited on 1-15-2022 by JZ]
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JZ
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No kidding. Totally ignoring therapeutics was/is a huge blunder. The fact that the complicit press isn't calling them out on it is an American
tragedy. Just because you are heavily pushing vaccines doesn't mean you should drop everything else. The country needs every tool possible to fight
this.
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JZ
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People can illegally enter our country unvaccinated. But US citizens can't work.
Makes perfect sense to me.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | I just watched an amazingly informative set of data slides over our local news from our lead health officer here in British Columbia. Chief takeaways
were:
1)Delta at less than 5% and shrinking of the present infections remains the strain that causes the vast majority of serious illness and death. Omicron
had virtually none.
2) about 50% of the Covid positive patients in hospital were not admitted for Covid symptoms, but were found to be carrying it after admissions for
other illnesses and blood tests showed they were Covid carriers.
3) The indications of community Covid in tests from wastewater sampling is already showing a drastic reduction of the virus in the communities tested.
4)The expectation is this wave will show rapid reductions in hospitalizations of people carrying Covid ( a lagging indicator) within 1 to 2 weeks.
Thankfully we have a Scientist leading our responses and she likes to share the data to provide backing for her restrictions and vaccine suggestions,
not fear and abuse. This openness has led to exceptionally high acceptance levels for vaccination and community restrictions. Omicron is a very
different case than Delta was and she showed how we are following the same path as South Africa, Netherlands and UK in falling Case Fatality Rates.
[Edited on 1-15-2022 by JDCanuck] |
In the United States, there is a Covid briefing each week.
Latest
https://youtu.be/t043ptThBJM
Increase in testing for schools
Committed to keeping schools open
CDC Dr. Walensky, omicron compared to delta
53% reduction in symptomatic hospitalizations
73% reduction in icu
91% reduction in mortality
1.5 days in hospital versus 5 days.
I believe this is the study she references from Kaiser Southern California
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.11.22269045v...
Dr. Fauci discusses current and future therapeutics.
The recently released Covid Anita viral drugs were fast tracked.
There is a stockpile of 750 million n95 masks and they are working to expand sources.
Cdc continues to recommend a well fitting mask.
Dr. Walensky believes the week to week increase in Covid deaths is from delta
On another front separate news
| Quote: | Wastewater was a canary in the COVID-19 coal mine for Bay Area health officials. Over a month ago they pointed to sharply rising virus levels
detected in the sewer system as a harbinger of the omicron-fueled case surge.
Good news: Wastewater tests now show virus levels starting to subside.
Along with modeling at the University of Washington that has proven to be spot-on about the pandemic’s trajectory, and experiences in other states
and countries, it suggests the omicron wave is cresting and about to come down in Northern California and across the country. It’s an encouraging
sign for a public quite weary of the virus and all the restrictions it brings to their daily lives. |
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/14/covid-there-are-signs...
It would appear that the United States is or soon will start declining.
The university of Washington model says the USA has already peaked as well as baja sur
https://covid19.healthdata.org/mexico/baja-california-sur?vi...
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