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pauldavidmena
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Getting back to the original topic, has anyone flying in to Los Cabos airport seen these voluntary test sites? I'm flying down in a month and am
curious to know if it's obvious - even distracting - or if it's barely visible.
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Funny how trying to circle back to the original topic can be such a thread-killer.
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Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  | | Getting back to the original topic, has anyone flying in to Los Cabos airport seen these voluntary test sites? I'm flying down in a month and am
curious to know if it's obvious - even distracting - or if it's barely visible. |
Prob out your deposit if you're cancelling with B&B.
I advise waiting and seeing how things play out in the next weeks. You don't want to get sick down there.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Getting back to the original topic, has anyone flying in to Los Cabos airport seen these voluntary test sites? I'm flying down in a month and am
curious to know if it's obvious - even distracting - or if it's barely visible. |
Prob out your deposit if you're cancelling with B&B.
I advise waiting and seeing how things play out in the next weeks. You don't want to get sick down there. |
We could have cancelled up to Christmas Eve without losing our deposit (50%), but now we're on the hook, so yes - we're not making any sudden moves at
this point.
The current plan is not to cancel, but rather to cook almost all of our meals at home. The Green Room seems a must-visit, or maybe one more outdoor
dining option, but even that can change. Stay tuned!
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this will be interesting!
As of this week, it will be mandatory to present proof of vaccination to enter establishments.
With the arrival of the Ómicron variant in Baja California, the Ministry of Health together with the Federal Commission for the Protection against
Sanitary Risks (Coepris) announced that it will be mandatory to present proof of vaccination to enter establishments such as restaurants, bars, clubs
and more.
This was made known during a press conference by the heads of the dependencies, where a series of new guidelines for businesses was reported, in order
to reduce Covid-19 infections.
The new guidelines include requesting proof of vaccination against Covid-19 from workers, clients and suppliers, so now it will be necessary for
people to bring said proof physically or digitally.
They also detailed that CO2 monitors should be used in all closed spaces, in order to check that there is good ventilation in the place and this
should be kept below 1000 ppm, as well as providing a mask in case the user does not bring one.
They also detailed that face masks must be provided to all those who do not have one, especially in public transport, where it has been detected that
users do not use it.
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https://www.sandiegored.com/es/noticias/217093/Restaurantes-...
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As someone who is fully vaccinated and boosted, I welcome this news, although I realize it's an indication of increased spread. And while this is for
BC and not BCS, it's probably just a matter of time before BCS rolls out a mandate.
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
As someone who is fully vaccinated and boosted, I welcome this news, although I realize it's an indication of increased spread. And while this is for
BC and not BCS, it's probably just a matter of time before BCS rolls out a mandate. |
Why? Being vaxxed doesn't stop the spread. Getting natural immunity from Omicron is very likely to be better for some ppl in the long run.
Being pro vax is great. Mandates not so much. Everyone is in a different health situation. What's good for you, might not be good for others.
Especially, those who are very young and healthy. We shouldn't be dictating their long term health choices. How many shots and boosters are you
going to wish on them? I don't want that mandated on my teenagers, who have already had Covid.
This disease and the vaccinates are not analogous to past diseases like polio.
[Edited on 1-6-2022 by JZ]
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pauldavidmena
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
As someone who is fully vaccinated and boosted, I welcome this news, although I realize it's an indication of increased spread. And while this is for
BC and not BCS, it's probably just a matter of time before BCS rolls out a mandate. |
Why? Being vaxxed doesn't stop the spread. Getting natural immunity from Omicron is very likely to be better for some ppl in the long run.
Being pro vax is great. Mandates not so much. Everyone is in a different health situation. What's good for you, might not be good for others.
Especially, those who are very young and healthy.
[Edited on 1-6-2022 by JZ] |
You're right that being vaccinated doesn't stop the spread, but it does minimize the chance of getting very sick. And when a business mandates proof
of vaccination they are trying to ensure the safety of their customers. So short of cancelling my Baja winter getaway for the second year in a row,
I'll patronize businesses that go the extra mile (even if it isn't necessarily by choice).
My youngest son championed natural immunity over getting vaccinated, and then he caught Covid and was very sick for over 2 weeks. I'm glad he
recovered, but as someone who would like to be a professional gambler, I would say he made a fairly foolish wager.
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How old is he? Fitness level?
Omicron appears to be quite different from Delta.
[Edited on 1-6-2022 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
As someone who is fully vaccinated and boosted, I welcome this news, although I realize it's an indication of increased spread. And while this is for
BC and not BCS, it's probably just a matter of time before BCS rolls out a mandate. |
Why? Being vaxxed doesn't stop the spread. |
Vaccinations reduce the spread, reduce the severity. Vaccinations good.
Encouraging or mandating vaccines is good for public health.
Shorty: quit whining. Stay home if you and family are anti-vaxxing.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | How old is he? Fitness level?
Omicron appears to be quite different from Delta.
[Edited on 1-6-2022 by JZ] |
You are awfully nosy!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
As someone who is fully vaccinated and boosted, I welcome this news, although I realize it's an indication of increased spread. And while this is for
BC and not BCS, it's probably just a matter of time before BCS rolls out a mandate. |
Why? Being vaxxed doesn't stop the spread. Getting natural immunity from Omicron is very likely to be better for some ppl in the long run.
Being pro vax is great. Mandates not so much. Everyone is in a different health situation. What's good for you, might not be good for others.
Especially, those who are very young and healthy. We shouldn't be dictating their long term health choices. How many shots and boosters are you
going to wish on them? I don't want that mandated on my teenagers, who have already had Covid.
This disease and the vaccinates are not analogous to past diseases like polio.
[Edited on 1-6-2022 by JZ] |
With due respect, the tangent about past viruses is false
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3427559/#:~:tex...
There is a known quantity of them and they all act the same, but due to Darwin' law, our species will react differently amongst us in response.
Its not complicated
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pauldavidmena
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | How old is he? Fitness level?
Omicron appears to be quite different from Delta.
[Edited on 1-6-2022 by JZ] |
My youngest son is 30 and is quite strong (and bull-headed). He works in the roofing industry in San Antonio. He also has a vaping habit that I
believe compromises his health, even though the FDA is way behind the curve as far as labeling it as dangerous as smoking cigarettes. I guess we can
thank the tobacco lobby for that.
Omicron has narrowed the disparity between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, but not enough for me to change course. My wife and I have been taking
every precaution to keep ourselves, our family and neighborhood safe. I encourage my children (5 of them) to do the same, but being the parent of
30-somethings is very different from being the parent of teenagers. When my oldest daughter was in her early 20s (she's now 38) she asked me for
advice, which I happily gave. She replied "I appreciate your wisdom" and then did what she wanted to do in the first place. 
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Don Pisto
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
As someone who is fully vaccinated and boosted, I welcome this news, although I realize it's an indication of increased spread. And while this is for
BC and not BCS, it's probably just a matter of time before BCS rolls out a mandate. |
well they took a step back and thought twice about the mandate.
Thursday, January 6, 2022, the state government of Baja California had a press conference this morning about the new policy for vaccination
certificates with businesses.
On Tuesday, January 4, the state government issued a new policy in dealing with the pandemic and the new variant, omricon, in which commercial
businesses would have to show vaccination certificates to those who work at those businesses and customers as well as to enter the facilities.
Alan Bautista of Canirac stated that this would be difficult to enforce it and much confusion since it was issued Wednesday, January 5, 2022.
Thursday, January 6,2022, the state government had another press conference about the guidelines and stated that the new policy will be as a
recommendation, not mandatory, for showing vaccination certificates. Those types of businesses that would be affected would be bars, restaurants,
cafes, hair shops, casinos, gyms, stadiums, cinemas and other recreation
For the press conference
https://fb.watch/an5w42c4_
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| Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto |
well they took a step back and thought twice about the mandate.
Thursday, January 6, 2022, the state government of Baja California had a press conference this morning about the new policy for vaccination
certificates with businesses.
On Tuesday, January 4, the state government issued a new policy in dealing with the pandemic and the new variant, omricon, in which commercial
businesses would have to show vaccination certificates to those who work at those businesses and customers as well as to enter the facilities.
Alan Bautista of Canirac stated that this would be difficult to enforce it and much confusion since it was issued Wednesday, January 5, 2022.
Thursday, January 6,2022, the state government had another press conference about the guidelines and stated that the new policy will be as a
recommendation, not mandatory, for showing vaccination certificates. Those types of businesses that would be affected would be bars, restaurants,
cafes, hair shops, casinos, gyms, stadiums, cinemas and other recreation
For the press conference
https://fb.watch/an5w42c4_ |
That's an interesting turn of events. This leaves the burden on the business, as well as the patrons. It's not too different from what I do on Cape
Cod - I prefer to do business with restaurants, book stores, etc., who mask up and ask others to do the same. Apart from health care and public
transit, there are no mandates here per se, so let the buyer beware.
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there were many times I thought sure I'd bring home "something" from CSL.....now you gotta worry about "flurona"!
https://metropolimx.com/detectan-primer-caso-de-flurona-en-c...
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Getting back to the original topic, has anyone flying in to Los Cabos airport seen these voluntary test sites? I'm flying down in a month and am
curious to know if it's obvious - even distracting - or if it's barely visible. |
Business as usual on arrival today, busier than ever and even more airport expansion underway. Packed into a bus after landing to get to arrivals.
Extremely quick and efficient through Immigration. Social distancing was absent in line-ups.
No random COVID-19 testing on arrival. There was an indication from the airline, prior to travel, that completion of this form would be required, but
it was not required https://www.aeromar.mx/files/Cuestionario_de_viajero.pdf
Happy travels,
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Getting vaxxed will decrease the chance of hospitalization, but to say that vaccinations will reduce the spread may be incorrect.
Bring on the double vaxxed and boosted asymptomatic super spreaders!
Herd immunity right around the corner.
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| Quote: Originally posted by windgrrl | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Getting back to the original topic, has anyone flying in to Los Cabos airport seen these voluntary test sites? I'm flying down in a month and am
curious to know if it's obvious - even distracting - or if it's barely visible. |
Business as usual on arrival today, busier than ever and even more airport expansion underway. Packed into a bus after landing to get to arrivals.
Extremely quick and efficient through Immigration. Social distancing was absent in line-ups.
No random COVID-19 testing on arrival. There was an indication from the airline, prior to travel, that completion of this form would be required, but
it was not required https://www.aeromar.mx/files/Cuestionario_de_viajero.pdf
Happy travels,
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Thanks for the update! I'm glad that there's no random testing of arriving passengers, which would be a little beyond "voluntary".
I'm assuming everyone was masked on the plane and in the airport. I like to travel on weekdays to avoid longer lines on the weekend (even pre-COVID),
but if there's construction going on, who knows what things will look like. I suppose I'll find out 4 weeks from today!
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