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[*] posted on 3-30-2022 at 11:19 AM


Right on, David!


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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Amigos, we are driving through San Quintin now. No problems finding gas on this side of Baja. All stations and brands open, so far! Baja Cactus tonight, Cataviña tomorrow and on to the mission then. Will report as long as there is Internet.


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[*] posted on 3-30-2022 at 11:23 AM


I can agree with that.

I just went through, and gas is available. Most of the shortage happened in SF was because race/chase cres were filling 55-gallon barrels. But that is the fault of the attendants who should have allowed only the filling of vehicles.


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San Felipe
Premium and diesel available at El Dorado ARCO at 10AM today
Prices unchanged from last week




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[*] posted on 3-30-2022 at 07:09 PM


Gas and diesel at Gonzaga Bay today.



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[*] posted on 3-31-2022 at 10:50 AM


Just left San Felipe, and all stations open, no lines.
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[*] posted on 3-31-2022 at 05:33 PM


I have relatives staying in Puerto Penasco right now (yeah, not Baja, but close). They are reporting several stations that are out of all fuels and long lines at the ones who have it.

"Amazing" how we have apparently gotten this perfect storm of pandemic cum Ukraine war that simply prevents deliveries that worked so well only three years ago.


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[*] posted on 3-31-2022 at 06:24 PM


Might be a good idea to delete this post. Plenty of gasoline throughout Baja.



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[*] posted on 3-31-2022 at 09:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Might be a good idea to delete this post. Plenty of gasoline throughout Baja.


And ignore the posts of outages?

More information is better than no information. Even if the information is that there are no major fuel disruptions.
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[*] posted on 3-31-2022 at 10:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Might be a good idea to delete this post. Plenty of gasoline throughout Baja.


And ignore the posts of outages?

More information is better than no information. Even if the information is that there are no major fuel disruptions.


There are no outages in Baja or Baja Sur...lots of rumors, though.




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[*] posted on 4-1-2022 at 07:18 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Might be a good idea to delete this post. Plenty of gasoline throughout Baja.


And ignore the posts of outages?

More information is better than no information. Even if the information is that there are no major fuel disruptions.


There are no outages in Baja or Baja Sur...lots of rumors, though.


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There was a shortage in San Felipe earlier this week. Mass panic amongst the gringos! They filled many Facebook pages with their panic attacks! These gringos who survived the great fuel shortage of 2022 are today rushing to Walmart to buy/hoard 5-gal gas cans!




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[*] posted on 4-1-2022 at 07:43 PM


No body is buying extra gas cans. We kept our eyes out for the gas stations and we didn't see a problem. We thought there may be a problem at San Felipe due to the race and all the people coming in but there was not.

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[*] posted on 4-1-2022 at 08:46 PM


We drove up from Todos Santos last week. Gas was 20.69 at Costco in Cabo. No shortages and we didn't see $5-$6 gas until we got to goat country! That said the races always strain San Felipe’s resources.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2022 at 10:23 AM


Regarding the initial post, the terminal in Los Angeles is no longer sending loads of fuel anywhere south of the border as they were a while back. My guess was that was temporary as the majors got their logistics fine tuned. Fuel supply contracts are very serious and I highly doubt any major oil company would just abandon their contracts in Baja because it would be wasting their time. That would open them up to huge lawsuits for failure to deliver.

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[*] posted on 4-2-2022 at 04:37 PM


Mexico Suspends Fuel Subsidy to Border Region- Prices will go up this week n Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali

A federal gasoline subsidy by Mexico to soften price spikes will be suspended along the northern border region with the U.S. this week, citing shortages as more Americans drive south to fill their tanks.

The suspension of the subsidy from April 2-8 covers cities in the border states of Tamaulipas, Nuevo Leon, Coahuila, Chihuahua, Sonora and Baja California, including Tijuana, one of the world’s busiest border crossings.

https://talkbaja.com/mexico-suspends-fuel-subsidy-to-border-...



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[*] posted on 4-2-2022 at 04:58 PM


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Mexico Suspends Fuel Subsidy to Border Region- Prices will go up this week n Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali

A federal gasoline subsidy by Mexico to soften price spikes will be suspended along the northern border region with the U.S. this week, citing shortages as more Americans drive south to fill their tanks.

The suspension of the subsidy from April 2-8 covers cities in the border states of Tamaulipas, Nuevo Leon, Coahuila, Chihuahua, Sonora and Baja California, including Tijuana, one of the world’s busiest border crossings.

https://talkbaja.com/mexico-suspends-fuel-subsidy-to-border-...





so what's the price gonna be raised to? ballpark





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[*] posted on 4-2-2022 at 05:14 PM


Todays diesel price in San Felipe 22.69 por litro.
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[*] posted on 4-3-2022 at 05:18 AM


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A federal gasoline subsidy by Mexico to soften price spikes will be suspended along the northern border region with the U.S. this week, citing shortages as more Americans drive south to fill their tanks.


Americans flocking into Mexico to enjoy the fruits of...SOCIALISM!

And now Mexican citizens in border regions will suffer higher prices due to our greed for gasoline. Fairly predictable, the Ugly American strikes again.

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[*] posted on 4-3-2022 at 08:47 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Hi Nomads,
There seems to be an issue with the many now, non-Pemex brands of gas stations, being out-of gas...?

The word is their trucks are enjoying the higher prices north of the border and not wasting time delivering to the lower priced Mexican distributors...?

Pemex is thus getting more sales and running out before the next scheduled delivery.

I thought all the brands in Mexico still got fuel from the same depots (as they do here in the US, where you see the various brand tankers lined up at the same gas storage depot to load up...?

Is this simply a trucker issue or does ARCO gas sold in Baja come from a U.S. filled ARCO delivery truck, etc.?

Please post where you found the gas stations closed/ out-of-fuel... like reported at Gonzaga Bay this week. The San Felipe 250 mob will really strain San Felipe distributors!

Thanks for your feedback!


Our first fuel stop was in Ensenada, followed by fuel stops at El Rosario, Cataviña, Gonzaga Bay, and Tecate.

No place we saw had closed stations or lines of cars waiting to get gas.

Here are the gas station photos I took:

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[*] posted on 4-4-2022 at 08:11 AM


Regarding gas in San Felipe. Yes the gas trucks arrive in town for early morning use at all the stations.
The ARCO north is the place most folks stop when arriving and sure enough the station runs out of gas by lunch time every day during the race weekend.
Yes, very long lines when the have gas. And the lines inside at the OXXO were huge.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2022 at 08:40 AM


Overall, the gasoline price controls in Mexico appear to be working very well. Inflation has stabilized in Mexico while it continues to menace elsewhere due to higher fuel costs working through the supply system.



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[*] posted on 4-11-2022 at 09:16 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Overall, the gasoline price controls in Mexico appear to be working very well. Inflation has stabilized in Mexico while it continues to menace elsewhere due to higher fuel costs working through the supply system.


Gasoline subsidies are not price controls. It's government spending money that could otherwise be used for other social services, like healthcare, housing, food, etc.

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