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4x4abc
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  |
I think showing how bad a road is will keep away "clueless" drivers.
How about I add a disclaimer when I make the web page for this trip... something to the effect of all motorized vehicles should avoid except the most
highly modified with skilled off-road drivers, companion vehicles, traction systems, good tires, and respect for the land and the history.  |
too late - the word is out
if anyone really wanted to "save" a place - don't talk about it
otherwise (Columbus is a good example) it's downhill
not complaining
that's how humans use the planet (always have)
for food, money or fun
no holds barred
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc |
if anyone really wanted to "save" a place - don't talk about it
otherwise (Columbus is a good example) it's downhill
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Best way to save a place is to designate it “wilderness” and ban roads and motorized vehicles. Majority of people are too lazy or fat to hike,
bicycle or ride horses.
And agree, never publicize easy-to-access/drivable locations or the lemmings will ruin it.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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David K
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Coco's Corner to Gonzaga Bay
This is the newest section of Highway 5 (Km. 167 to Km. 201.5) opened up in February 2020. The paving had ended at Km. 167 or nearby from 2014 to 2020
as crews blasted through the mountain to Laguna Chapala and had some down time for a year+.
This is the bridge over Arroyo Santa María, coming down from the mission valley. A view parking area with a monument is on the north side of the
bridge.
The Gonzaga Bay region comes into view.
Isla San Luis Gonzaga (some call it Isla Willard) separates the smaller Bahía San Luis Gonzaga (some call Willard Bay) from the larger Ensenada de
San Francisquito (most call Gonzaga Bay).
The gas station was a Pemex, but all that signage has been painted over and the attendant says it will be an ARCO station. Km. 147.
The price of gas is a bit higher than other places.
Exchange rates are higher in this remote area, 220+ miles from the border.
The entrance for Alfonsina's compound, next to the gas station. Looks like a prison camp tower???
Runway 08, and across are the mobile rooms of Rancho Grande.
Runway
Prices for rooms, camping, etc.
Rancho Grande Market's mascot
[Edited on 4-5-2022 by David K]
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David K
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Abandoned Gonzaga Checkpoint.
Some photos for those who say the view northbound on Hwy. 5 sucks...
Okie Landing and Isla Lobos.
Isla el Muerto (Dead Man Island)
Isla el Huerfanito (Little Orphan Island)
Puertecitos
Cow Patty's
Rudy's beach view, low tide...
Rudy's house
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David K
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Thursday sunrise, goodbyes, San Felipe to Tecate:
Tom 'TW' (seated) chats with Georgia and Ron, who live near Rudy's place. Georgia runs the South Campos Amigos Facebook page.
Ed (Jeep Grand Cherokee) and wife, Miriam.
People watching the San Felipe 250 race time trials for Tropy Truck starting positions. Clouds of dust and a helicopter above can be seen as we drive
north.
San Felipe Bay
I photograph the six gas stations showing there are no long lines or outages as had been reported just days before. I also photographed a Score truck,
the kilometer marker (190 kms. from Mexicali), and the Hotel Sky Blu:
Sights from Hwy. 2-D (Mexicali to Tecate):
Tecate Border line (2:40-3:08 or 28 min.) on Thursday.
That's our 2022 Mission Santa María trip. I hope you enjoyed the views from my camera! Yes, I know it is too many photos... LOL
I will make a web page with only the best photos for this trip and see it it not so much!
What more can I do to answer your questions? Let me assist you with planning a Baja adventure!
Do enjoy my Facebook pages and websites:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions
https://vivabaja.com/
https://oldmissions.com/
I recently had to do another printing of my book, Baja California Land of Missions, and there are plenty of them for your Baja-loving friends to
enjoy.
I also donated several copies to the Baja Cactus/ Halcones del Desierto (Desert Hawks) Fire and Rescue Service. Buy my book at the motel lobby and
100% of sales goes to help a great service and maybe get a fire station built in El Rosario.
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4x4abc
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where in san Felipe is the RedPetrOil gas station?
Harald Pietschmann
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David K
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It used to be known as the 'Ejido Pemex' and is at Km. 184, west side of highway.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc |
if anyone really wanted to "save" a place - don't talk about it
otherwise (Columbus is a good example) it's downhill
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Best way to save a place is to designate it “wilderness” and ban roads and motorized vehicles. Majority of people are too lazy or fat to hike,
bicycle or ride horses.
And agree, never publicize easy-to-access/drivable locations or the lemmings will ruin it. |
Best way to save a place ban idiots like you  Thank God Mexico cant stand
your kind
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bajatrailrider
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You have been a drunk your whole life to fat and lazy to ride a dirt bike . Just a boring useless life just cause you cant do it dont be silly.
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Wow what a trip. Took a long time to digest all the content which happened during our migration back to Colorado USA.
TW, you are very lucky to have teh best tour guide in the other seat.
Anyway Thanks David for all your images and descriptions.
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David K
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My pleasure Paul, TW was great driver... even if he had to go faster than everyone else on that road! 
So, I pretty much posted almost all the photos I took. I did the same on my Facebook pages. Now, I will make a VivaBaja.com web page for the trip,
using just the best photos. That is the hardest thing for me to do!
I was sure happy to get back to Baja, after almost 3 years! My last time south was in May 2019 with Cameron Steele's Trail of Missions Recon.
I am in hopes of a summer trip with Elizabeth ('Baja Angel' on Nomad) to Shell Island and maybe Concepción Bay. Of course, if anybody wants to hire
me for their tour guide or TV show, I am interested!
I hope to finally see the new Baja Bound Road Guide published this year... postponed due to Covid:
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bajatrailrider
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many thanks again David for write up much work on your part . Mi gusta Mucho
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David K
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Thanks Larry, I am happy the good Nomads here are enjoying this! I really hope more Nomads will post trip reports or travel stories from the past.
That is such a high value item to be found on Nomad. Unlike Facebook, you can easily find the reports using the forums and search.
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One of the other MSM 2022 members just shared her camera's photos. Here is the entire gang, at Rudy's place:
L to R: TRW (Tom), El Comadante Loco (Rudy), Ken, David K, Debbie, XRPhlang (Phil), Miriam and Ed.
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More photos, from Debbie's camera:
Sign at road to the Grandpa's (Km. 149.5, just north of Camalu)
The Baja Cactus Motel lobby
Baja Cactus Motel
Mama Espinoza restaurant. We sit in the side room, see me on the far right, at our table.
Mama Espinoza's menu, first page.
Rancho Santa Ynez, 1 km.
Our camp near the mission.
Another Rudy story, as TW and I listen, in his home.
Sunrise, March 31, 2022.
Ron (Rudy's neighbor) puts the right nut on the Jeep shock mount. A Toyota lug nut was used on the trail.
Ron and Debbie
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I thought Coco died? Must have been a rumor.
Great trip, would love to do it someday.
Is it possible to stay at the hotel in Catavina and do the trip as a day trip? Is it 28 miles round trip from hotel to the mission? Probably too far
for one day.
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| Quote: Originally posted by rimmerdev1 | I thought Coco died? Must have been a rumor.
Great trip, would love to do it someday.
Is it possible to stay at the hotel in Catavina and do the trip as a day trip? Is it 28 miles round trip from hotel to the mission? Probably too far
for one day.
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Depends on what you drive and how fast you go. I made it in to the mission in about 2 hours. Coming out was a little longer 3.5 to 4 hours. Rougher
coming out than going in.
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Coco was alive and looking good, very happy attitude!
'The Last Mission' TV show crew went in and back out in one day (Oct. 2020). They had local guide Nathan Velasco along and took the nicer arroyo
route. Three Toyotas and one Jeep.
In fact, they wanted more, and did go down the La Turquesa Grade to the pools... and included some of that in the filming but didn't mention it was a
different place in Baja.
The show is 21 minutes, commercial free (not counting the plug for my book at the very end)!
https://vimeo.com/487608164
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| Quote: Originally posted by larryC |
Depends on what you drive and how fast you go. I made it in to the mission in about 2 hours. Coming out was a little longer 3.5 to 4 hours. Rougher
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what did you drive/ride?
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You can do it in 1 day. Its about 5+ hours each way using the old rough road. About 3 hours using the sand wash each way. Between March and Sept you
have 12+ hour days (June 14 hours) so it is an easy day trip provided you have no problems.
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