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[*] posted on 4-28-2022 at 08:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  

Covid is no longer a pandemic in Baja nor anywhere in Mexico nor in USA by declaration of gov health department, it is declared endemic.

Like the virus is reading these declarations.

The latest piece by the US health officials was actually this:
"We’re still experiencing a pandemic globally, but we’re out of the full-blown explosive pandemic phase in the U.S. We’re really in a transitional phase, from a declaration of the numbers into hopefully a more controlled phase and endemicity". Read yesterday's Wash-Post.

China was in the endemic phase for most of those 2 years. Very low number of cases and deaths per capita, compared to other countries. Now they have a lockdown after lockdown.

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[*] posted on 4-29-2022 at 01:03 AM


These are public statements by government health representatives, This is not my opinion, sharing these public statements does not mean I agree or disagree, or that they will or won't change their public stance on a day to day basis as they have throughout this, simply put, public health officials declared this week there is no pandemic threat or risk from flu like illness.

Mexico says coronavirus now endemic, not pandemic
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/mexico-corona...

Mexico says coronavirus now endemic, not pandemic
https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-mexico-caribbean-pan...

Medical experts say COVID is entering 'endemic' phase
https://wnyt.com/capital-region-comeback/medical-experts-say...

America’s Pandemic Phase Is Over: Fauci
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/americas-pandemic-phase-is-...

Fauci: US is 'certainly' out of the 'pandemic phase'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-us-is-certainly-out-o...


Furthermore, New England Medical Journal questions Pandemic Policy and Safety of Covid Injections - Covid-19 Boosters — Where from Here?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2203329




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[*] posted on 4-29-2022 at 09:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Alm  


China was in the endemic phase for most of those 2 years. Very low number of cases and deaths per capita, compared to other countries. Now they have a lockdown after lockdown.



China absolutely never hit the endemic phase. Unlike China, nearly 60% of Americans have Covid anti-bodies which has helped us move to the endemic phase.

China has an idiotic zero-Covid policy. Watch some of the videos on YouTube, they are brutalizing their population. Omicron is much more contagious and they are struggling with it majorly and likely will have issues for a long time to come if they continue to follow this policy.

It has become political more than anything for China. From the WSJ: "Mr. Xi has unambiguously hitched his personal legacy to the successful preservation of the zero-Covid policy."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/xi-jinping-is-betting-it-all-on...


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[*] posted on 4-30-2022 at 09:13 AM


Got tested Wednesday, still sporting Antibodies and proud of it. :bounce:
These aren't from a vax either.
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[*] posted on 4-30-2022 at 10:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Glidergeek  
Got tested Wednesday, still sporting Antibodies and proud of it.

Those infected before Omicron have low immunity to Omicron, regardless of antibodies. Those infected with Omicron have good immunity to Omicron. Hard to tell for how long but it won't matter when another variant comes - that you won't have immunity against. If past experience is any indication it will likely come before your current immunity wears out.

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[*] posted on 4-30-2022 at 05:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  

Lockdowns, masks, isolation, and worse experimental injections have no evidence of efficacy to reduce infection, nor transmission of the theoretical SARS 2 virus, yet, it is demonstrable that those responses caused more harm, as well as increased suicides, drug abuse, economic harm and mental illness.
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Don't you get tired of posting misinformation? Increased suicides, drug abuse, mental illness caused by masks.

Psycho babble.




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[*] posted on 5-1-2022 at 01:49 AM


Lee, The impacts of COVID isolation, reduced facial interaction, increased fear, led to increase in psychological disorders and suicide.

It's understandable that some people are unaware.

The dual pandemic’ of suicide and COVID-19: A biopsychosocial narrative of risks and prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7672361/

The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on suicide rates
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32539153/

CDC: Teen Suicide Attempts Surged During COVID Lockdown
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-teen-suicide-attempts-surged-1508...



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[*] posted on 5-1-2022 at 03:09 AM


Vaccination for COVID Paused

COVID-19: Denmark suspends COVID vaccination programme with health chiefs saying virus under control
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-denmark-suspends-covid-v...

California pauses plans to require COVID-19 vaccinations for schoolchildren
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-04-14/californ...

Essential California Week in Review: Newsom hits pause on school vaccine mandate
https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2022-04-16/ess...

Exports of an Indian COVID-19 vaccine halted after WHO finds problems at manufacturing plant
https://www.science.org/content/article/exports-indian-covid...

Covid vaccine pause is blow to Oxford Biomedica
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/oxford-biomedica-faces-lo...

Johnson & Johnson suspends COVID-19 vaccine sales forecast
https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/johnson-johnson-suspends-covid...

Thousands of public servants avoid new vaccine mandates amid policy pause
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/thousan...

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[*] posted on 5-1-2022 at 07:52 AM


PCR is still the gold standard for detecting covid. That's why you are required to get a PCR test 72 hours or less prior to any surgical procedure. The rapid tests only report if you have an active infection, not if you are incubating it.

China has two years if they get on board with stopping their "zero covid" policy. Their economy is going to affect the supply chain for for a long time because their people do not have herd immunity. Historically, it takes two years for a pandemic disease to sweep through a population and become endemic. I predicted we would be endemic by March 2022 and most of the world is, the US most certainly is with 60% of us already infected and a large % vaccinated. People are still getting covid BUT THEY ARE NOT BEING HOSPITALIZED AND DYING like they were when it started, which was the only criteria that led to social distancing and lockdowns in the first place. Like with the (Spanish) flu, there will be variants every year, some will die from it, but not at pandemic levels. Praise the lord and pass the biscuits, I have lots of travel planned!
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[*] posted on 5-1-2022 at 08:55 AM


"Those infected before Omicron have low immunity to Omicron, regardless of antibodies. Those infected with Omicron have good immunity to Omicron. Hard to tell for how long but it won't matter when another variant comes - that you won't have immunity against. If past experience is any indication it will likely come before your current immunity wears out."

I was originally infected July 2020 carried antibodies thru June of 2021. Antibodies reappeared October 2021 people all around me even though vaxed are getting it even though there is a mix of vaxed and un vaxsd people I have daily exposure to.

So DR. how do you know what strain my antibodies have been derived from?
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[*] posted on 5-1-2022 at 02:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
PCR is still the gold standard for detecting covid. That's why you are required to get a PCR test 72 hours or less prior to any surgical procedure. The rapid tests only report if you have an active infection, not if you are incubating it.

China has two years if they get on board with stopping their "zero covid" policy. Their economy is going to affect the supply chain for for a long time because their people do not have herd immunity. Historically, it takes two years for a pandemic disease to sweep through a population and become endemic. I predicted we would be endemic by March 2022 and most of the world is, the US most certainly is with 60% of us already infected and a large % vaccinated. People are still getting covid BUT THEY ARE NOT BEING HOSPITALIZED AND DYING like they were when it started, which was the only criteria that led to social distancing and lockdowns in the first place. Like with the (Spanish) flu, there will be variants every year, some will die from it, but not at pandemic levels. Praise the lord and pass the biscuits, I have lots of travel planned!


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So DR. how do you know what strain my antibodies have been derived from?
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Not a doc here but there was an interesting article in the NYT or WaPo the other day regarding t-cells and how in some people they enter through a back-door of a virus to fight infection. The article centered on people who have been exposed but don't get sick (no infection or asymptomatic) and how those t-cells are effective against different variants of a virus (colds, flu, who knows, maybe even covid). I'm hoping I'm one of those, I don't get sick from flu or colds just a little bit icky then it goes away next day. My hubby tested positive last Wednesday, I was exposed close range and he is still testing positive. This morning was my first positive (maybe, the line was barely detectible after 30 minutes....). Felt crappy last night but okay this morning. Fingers crossed, one can only hope....I do not want to end up in a hospital.
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So DR. how do you know what strain my antibodies have been derived from?
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Not a doc here but there was an interesting article in the NYT or WaPo the other day regarding t-cells and how in some people they enter through a back-door of a virus to fight infection. The article centered on people who have been exposed but don't get sick (no infection or asymptomatic) and how those t-cells are effective against different variants of a virus (colds, flu, who knows, maybe even covid). I'm hoping I'm one of those, I don't get sick from flu or colds just a little bit icky then it goes away next day. My hubby tested positive last Wednesday, I was exposed close range and he is still testing positive. This morning was my first positive (maybe, the line was barely detectible after 30 minutes....). Felt crappy last night but okay this morning. Fingers crossed, one can only hope....I do not want to end up in a hospital.


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[*] posted on 5-2-2022 at 12:26 PM


well its been a week and at least 90% are still opting for the mask, at least in the rosarito area.



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[*] posted on 5-3-2022 at 04:52 PM


Just flew back to the states yesterday.
Cabo airport still requiring neg covid test and MASKS !!!
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[*] posted on 5-5-2022 at 02:58 PM


Today's Gringo Gazette reports that Cabo is eliminating the requirement for masks in outdoor spaces. They are still required in most indoor settings.





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[*] posted on 5-5-2022 at 03:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  
Today's Gringo Gazette reports that Cabo is eliminating the requirement for masks in outdoor spaces. They are still required in most indoor settings.



????
that picture does not look like mexico, and appears to be something about Octoberfest (and logo on beer mug is Hofbrau beer).. why octoberfest pic for baja in may?


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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  
Today's Gringo Gazette reports that Cabo is eliminating the requirement for masks in outdoor spaces. They are still required in most indoor settings.



????
that picture does not look like mexico, and appears to be something about Octoberfest (and logo on beer mug is Hofbrau beer).. why octoberfest pic for baja in may?


happy cinco de drinko!


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Are you implying that the Gringo Gazette is not a pillar of journalistic excellence? 😂





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[*] posted on 5-5-2022 at 10:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  


So DR. how do you know what strain my antibodies have been derived from?
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Not a doc here but there was an interesting article in the NYT or WaPo the other day regarding t-cells and how in some people they enter through a back-door of a virus to fight infection. The article centered on people who have been exposed but don't get sick (no infection or asymptomatic) and how those t-cells are effective against different variants of a virus (colds, flu, who knows, maybe even covid). I'm hoping I'm one of those, I don't get sick from flu or colds just a little bit icky then it goes away next day. My hubby tested positive last Wednesday, I was exposed close range and he is still testing positive. This morning was my first positive (maybe, the line was barely detectible after 30 minutes....). Felt crappy last night but okay this morning. Fingers crossed, one can only hope....I do not want to end up in a hospital.


Pretty sure you will be fine. Latest info indicates a very very low number of people that don't have other health issues get any worse than cold like conditions after testing positive with Omicron. I am a supporter of T-cell protection being so powerful that many children don't even test positive. T-cell presence declines drastically with age . Happened in our family...rapid tests came back negative in the youngest 3 times running. I myself have been exposed multiple times and the worse I've had is sniffles.




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[*] posted on 5-5-2022 at 10:35 PM


On the mask issue...once I got out of La Paz airport, no one i ran into was wearing a mask except the taxi driver who informed me I was welcome to wear one if I felt at risk, but otherwise not to bother.
Since heading to the rural ares...not one mask n site.




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